I like how Democrats keep coming up with "this will show him!" Scenarios as if he cares. He doesn't care what he looks like.

Fucking Dems are already equivocating. They'll have all the votes they'll need and the Republicans will still set the agenda, because they're complicit gormless cowards.

Progressive Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) wrote on social media late Friday that Democrats should force Trump to veto a litany of progressive policies from Medicare for All to blocking aid and bombs to Israel to taxing billionaires.

"Make him veto Medicare for All," he advised.

Make him veto Medicare for AllMake him veto a $25 living wageMake him veto free childcareMake him veto Block the Bombs to IsraelMake him veto zero aid to IsraelMake him veto free collegeMake him veto erasing student loansMake him veto taxes on billionaires
— Ro Khanna (@RoKhanna) October 24, 2026

Groundwork CEO Lindsay Owens called Schatz's strategy "worrisome" on Saturday.

"Trump vetoing bills to make healthcare cheaper is a good political outcome for Dems," she wrote on social media, arguing that it would increase the likelihood of a Democratic victory in 2028.

I agree. Make him veto everything, and then run against it in 2028.

But don't do that INSTEAD of investigations. Investigations have to be the priority. The Dems will never get anything done with treasonous opposition to EVERYTHING.

We have to do BOTH - investigate, and pass DemSoc legislation.

This has been a great idea for 30 years, you should try it Dems

Hawaii Sen. Brian Schatz, who will be the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate if...

We continue only caring about how long someone has been in office...

It only matters because people act like it does. Committe chairs are only given to senior members because that's who they're given to.

Fuck all the bullshit norms we operated with under neoliberals.

We can just ignore those old fucks, and that's likely what's gonna happen.

He will proudly veto Medicare for All. I mean, try to pass it regardless.

Let’s make him veto an onslaught of bills that aim to expose the Epstein client list, and force the DOJ to investigate in such a manner that congress is apprised of their progress. Make him defend vetoing investigating, prosecuting, and convicting billionaire pedophiles and sex traffickers. Make him defend it all. This should be day one. Have legislation at the ready to introduce on day one to force him to defend pedophilia.

Make a concerted, focused effort on this. Healthcare, affordability are very important, but can wait to be grandstanded. Control the messaging, the narrative, make it dominate the new cycle until there is enough support to overcome the veto. It can be done. But it will take courage of conviction, which I know is asking a LOT of establishment dems.

I don’t give a fuck who is swept up in this; If they are on the lists, they need to be investigated.

“I do not think it is time to propose things that the president of the United States is guaranteed to veto,” Schatz said. “I think that is somewhat of a bit of wasted energy. And then if we want to be more aspirational, if we want to make more bold policy changes, we’re going to have to take the presidency and both chambers and that’s for 2028.”

Schatz, you ignorant slut [old people will get this reference]. You don't think it's time? Why do you think anyone would even vote for Democrats in 2028 if they roll over and piss themselves like whipped puppies in 2027? JFC will Dems ever show some fucking courage?! Do you have any idea what the assignment is for gods sake?!.

Thank you Rep. Khanna and those few other Dems who get it, and please may enough other actual progressives get elected this cycle to join you and do something for a change. Show us you're willing to pass legislation that actually helps people and they will vote for you. Act like Schitz and you're out.

I love the Democratic party. The strongest position we have in it is "let's make the Republicans look bad". Like, holy fuck, talk about how you're going to override the veto, talk about how you're going to first pressure Republicans in purple seats to side with you on universally hated things like datacenters; to show that a 2/3rds vote is possible with pressure from the population.

Talk about how you ARE going to pass Medicare for all by pressuring Republicans about to be purged from office in 2028 to "walk out" and not be present for the veto override voting. (The 2/3rds is based on members that are present, not actual house or Senate capacity).

Hell, point the stroke gun at some old fucks not voting with you. Show some fucking balls.

Like, holy fuck, the "best" position right now is "we're gonna fail, but we're gonna make Trump look bad". Fucking hell dude. We are at the absolute floor. No one left in this country that likes Trump is changing their opinion when he vetos Medicare for all. It's a fucking cult. Stop trying to make the cult leader look bad to the 20-30% of Americans in the cult. Stop treating your Ls like wins. We don't need "philosophical victories". We need material change through legislation and a democratic party thats going to fight through every method possible.

I swear; when the Dems win in a massive wave, they will spend the next two years passing legislation they know will be vetoed and then talking about how important 2028 is. Will win massively in 2028, and then literally follow the Obama playbook post Bush. No trials for war crimes, no arrest of ICE murderers, and another "we tortured some folks" reflection of how we need to "move on". And then pass some more useless neoliberal Reagan like reforms that just lead people to get frustrated and vote for the next fascist in 2032 or 2036.

Can we stop this cycle? This party is a fucking op. Even are "best" are fucking useless.

You know how I know we’re not getting Medicare for all? Because a bunch of very wealthy corporatists are entrenched in our political system to the point that it’s unfathomable that anything could ever happen that is actually good for we, the people, if it is not profitable for them.

"WE'RE not the ones who aren't gonna give you Healthcare For All, THEY'RE the ones who aren't gonna give you Healthcare For All!"

We keep coming back to what Churchill said about Americans

I'm sure the president would veto such a bill, but it doesn't really matter, since no such thing will ever be proposed by either party.

Better yet, pea shooting

It would be great, but they won't get enough majority to pass it, even supermajority may not be enough, but, yes, we should have had that decades ago.