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[–] 12 points 2 weeks ago

This is such an odd story, because for the Gulf of Mexico/America and Lake Ontario/America, he issued executive orders under authority of the president. But now it seems like he spoke to the Google CEO directly and casually asked for the change.

It's odd because you know both Google and Apple will comply if Trump actually issues an executive order. He can do that. He can name all the oceans after himself, his country, his children, or whatever he wants. And American companies will toe the line. Maybe it's Google's turn to present him with a participation trophy this time. Anyway, it has no bearing on what other countries call things.

If I didn't think Trump was an imbecile — which I do — I would suggest maybe he was joking. But it's more likely he forgot he needs an executive order (or forgot he hasn't issued it yet) and just asked as if he had.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago

    The Ocean of Epstein Files

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    [–] 62 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    I think I'll rename the water in my toilet bowl the Lake of Trump.

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  • [–] 94 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    Why would Google get to rename an ocean?

    FUCK THESE MASSIVE CORPS!!! BURN THEM TO THE FUCKING GROUND!!!!

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  • [–] 47 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    They can't. The USGIS sets names of things for Americans and Trump can basically order them to do whatever. I hate Google and friends but they're an American company and within the borders of the US, the USGIS decides what things are named.

    Fuck them for everything else they're doing though.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    There’s absolutely nothing whatsoever forcing these companies to use GNIS names, even for users within the US; they’re doing so purely out of their own discretion.

    Outside of federal contract work, you can use whatever names you want in a mapping product.

    BGN decisions are not required to be adopted by nonfederal domestic entities, such as private company applications (e.g., Google Maps and Apple Maps); however, some nonfederal entities have chosen to do so or generally have a policy to defer to GNIS nomenclature.

    https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12881

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    They certainly don't have to, I guess my point was less "they're complying with idiots" and more "they didn't initiate the idiocy". I see how this is unclear in my comment, but I'm not sure how to make it more clear. MapQuest is an example of a mapping company choosing not to follow government direction.

    I guess as much as I severely dislike our technocrats and how they enable Donnie, I want to ensure we primarily blame Donnie for Donnie's idiocy.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    They absolutely can but at the same time, whose authority/responsibility is it to make these changes if not GNIS? Google's? If Ukraine were to give up the Donbas to Russia in some sort of settlement, should Google respect that decision as well? When China and Taiwan argue about territory, whose side should they take?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago

    It's definitely not the first or only fuckery with maps either. India has them display Kashmir as part of India, while other regions show it as disputed. If a nation is important enough to Google, they'll do whatever you want to keep that ad money rolling in.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 weeks ago

    I really thought I opened the "not the onion" community

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  • [–] 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    I love how instead of saying, “no,” he said “please don’t ask us to do that.” What a fucking pussy.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    You are taking Trump's word for what he said. Statistically, there is a 0% chance that is correct. Was probably still some little bitch reply, just not that.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    When dealing with a pussy like Trump you have two possibilities: either you are in a position of power where you can come across as stronger than him (then he adores you) or you have to make him think the thing you want is a clever thing and it’s Trump's achievement to pick the clever thing. Otherwise he will just steamroll you for the sake of feeling great and powerful.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    Stop using corporate trash. Use coMaps and put in the effort to contribute!

    Change starts small and grows with the people.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    they unfortunately assume addresses increase somewhat linearly down streets

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago*

    Weird. Neither OpenStreetMap nor CoMaps does any automatic address interpolation or inference. All the data you see there was either imported from a suitably-licensed authoritative source or added by a contributor.

    If you're seeing misnumbering of addresses, it's almost certainly human error, but it won't be a regular thing.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    This is the fakest conversation I’ve ever heard.

    First, Sundar would gargle Trump’s soiled diaper if Trump asked. Second, there’s just no way Pichai was like “no that touches too many countries, oceans are too hard”. Also, Trump don’t know non US maps aren’t actually changed except the parenthetical. It’s literally an update to the locale mapping an intern could do. Maybe that was a subtle fuck off, but see point 1.

    Is the implication that he called Google before renaming the Gulf (but really only the US) and trying to rename Lake Ontario, because that’s never been the story. So why is he calling them now, and why does whether Google thinks it’s hard matter?

    So I’m calling it now: fake lies from the pedophile.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    This is the fakest conversation I’ve ever heard.

    Sundar's strong jawline quivered, but he stood up straight, broadening his shoulders and tightening his shapely behind. "Please sir," he said, with a tear in his eye, "Oceans are different, sir. Please don't ask us to do that."

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    As soon as the democrats are in power, they should instantly start breaking up these big corps (among many other things like ranked-choice voting and, y'know, trying and convicting all the criminals in the admin).

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago*

    The conversation with Sundar never happened. We know this because Sundar would have immediately said "Yes, sir! Whatever you want, sir!" He has never said no to Trump and never will. This is because Sundar is pure evil.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    "No, no, no. This time I'm not doing it ... Oceans are different, sir. They cover ... a lot of countries. Please don't ask us to do that."

    So Google was perfectly fine with screwing over Mexico and Canada. Good to know. I hope the Mexican and Canadian federal governments are paying attention.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago

    There is a zero percent chance that call actually happened at all.

    Either he imagined/dreamed it and can't tell the difference or just fucking lying because why would he not?

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    Oh good I’m sure this will fix the economy, give us affordable housing and healthcare, end the wars in Ukraine, and Iran, and end the genocide is Palestine, and get the Epstein files fully released… hey America are we tired yet from all this winning?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago

    "And when everything's America--" (evil laugh) "--nothing will be."

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    I'm slowly trying to untie myself from google. Most recently disabled Google maps because of their renaming stuff that shouldn't be.

    Tomtom is working for me for now, I hopped around to a few different nav apps but landed there. Tried a few osm based ones but they were all pretty rough around the edges, middle and centers.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    "We've renamed it the 'TRUMP-EPSTEIN Files Ocean. Thank you for this distraction."

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    We are getting into crazy grandpa territory here.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah. Biden had some crazy grandpa energy, but also policy coherence, a staff who could set him straight, and most importantly, awareness of his condition so he could compensate. Not ideal, but nothing like Trump.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Can someone just kill him?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    He’s also technically asked Canada and Greenland to rename themselves America too.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Honestly I would have rather Google renamed it. Just to really cement their legacy as bootlickers.

    Also this just reeks of "hey see Google still has morals. They may have renamed the Gulf of Mexico and they may have renamed Lake Ontario but by God they know the oceans are sacred so they can't be that bad." I bet they paid Trump to specifically say this.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I mean I don't have that much love for Google, but I gotta feel bad for Sundar Pichai. Here's a guy just trying to run his company, and the (supposed) leader of the free world calls- not about something important, not about a threat to the Internet, not about the future of online policy, but about renaming an ocean on a whim.

    And it's your job to talk him down.

    I could see him saying like 'secretary, cancel the rest of my day, I need to go home and cry for the future of the country'.

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