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[–] 98 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

the federal government sent election officials in Los Angeles County an unverified list of 20,000 people it claims are “likely noncitizens” registered to vote in California. [...] federal agents used the list to make the more than two dozen targeted arrests on the basis of its voter fraud allegations. [...] The 11 arrestees are among 28 people the department officially charged—and all are from its list of 20,000 targets in the election. The press release claims that every person targeted is a legal permanent resident of the US but not a citizen.

No words.

“Every illegal vote cancels out the vote of a lawful American citizen,”

So it's the Great Replacement Theory applied to voting.

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  • [–] 38 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    “Every illegal vote cancels out the vote of a lawful American citizen,”

    Not if they both vote for the same person

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  • [–] 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    We've seen this same story play out in Nevada.

    https://www.techdirt.com/2026/10/01/dhss-nevada-illegal-voter-claims-have-dropped-from-16000-to-200-to-zero-in-less-than-a-month/

    They claim huge numbers, but when it's time to provide the evidence, they come up empty handed. That's why we are seeing the show of force with cameras and the media blitz. To create the perception of voter fraud to hide the fact that actual voter fraud is rare.

    We know their numbers are bullshit too via Propublica:

    HSI’s involvement in the hunt for election fraud traces at least to summer 2025, when agency supervisors embraced a proposal from a midlevel agent who’d publicly echoed Trump’s claims about elections. He argued the agency’s powerful databases and tools could find noncitizens even on the voter lists that states make publicly available, from which the most confidential information has been redacted. Under Trump, the Justice Department had collected many public voter rolls as part of a controversial effort to compel states to turn over the unredacted versions.

    Those searches went forward, ProPublica’s reporting shows, helping to generate tens of thousands of leads regarding illegal voting across the country. But when HSI agents were sent to investigate them, the results were similar to what Teirab reported from Minnesota.

    Between January 2025 and May 2026, a ProPublica analysis of Justice Department data shows, fewer than 150 alleged noncitizen voters were referred for prosecution. Even fewer — 41 — were charged with voting illegally or other election-related crimes. (More than 150 million people voted in the most recent presidential election.)

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    There’s an array of reasons why Trump’s campaign to document claims of widespread voter fraud hasn’t succeeded. Most obviously, it’s exceedingly rare, as countless studies and state audits have found. Noncitizens often get on voter rolls by accident or when government officials make errors. Last month, New Jersey disclosed that a mistake involving its Motor Vehicle Commission caused 6,600 noncitizens to be registered (fewer than 400 voted).

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    wait dint nevada go to trump? and its mainly a red state.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Nevada is weird. Dem and Rep are about the same. Independents out number both are a plurality (ninja edit). Dems dominate Senate and House seats. The governor is a Rep. The state voted Trump, Biden, Clinton, Obama, Obama, Bush, Bush.

    Party Total voters Percentage
    Democratic 569,337 27.61%
    Republican 568,665 27.58%
    Independent American 82,903 4.02%
    Libertarian 13,620 0.66%
    Other parties 30,806 1.49%
    Nonpartisan 796,805 38.64%
    Total 2,062,136 100.00%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada#Politics

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    To add to this, Nevada has basically two cities, Las Vegas and Reno, and a lot of empty space everywhere else. The vibes of Vegas and Nevada’s proximity to California attract socially left people. The lack of income tax attracts financially right people. The sparsely populated areas tend to be right wing like most sparsely populated areas in the US.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    as if CA is going to vote for trump lol. its just sound bites for faux news, to scare the magats, how shithole blue areas are. alot of travel influencers(conservatives) solely go to blue areas to do the same, and only visit extremely proverty stricken areas.

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  • [–] 49 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    On Monday, federal authorities announced the arrest in California of at least 11 people, and charges against 28, alleging they registered to vote as noncitizens.

    Whoa! 28 people! That's essentially zero, statistically speaking, which is exactly what knowledgeable people have been saying for years: that voter fraud is basically non-existent, and that it's not at all worth spending millions of dollars to combat.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    And keep in mind that they've done nothing to actually verify that A) the people they've arrested are not citizens and B) that if they are not, that they actually registered to vote. In their own words, the list is of "likely non-citizens." So basically, they have a list of people who are permanent residents. If you, a citizen, happen to have the same name as someone on that list, and you're registered to vote, you are at risk of being arrested. Or, vice versa, if a person on that list has the same name as someone registered to vote, they might get arrested even though they did nothing wrong.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Didn't they also demand California to not count another 20 000 ballots unless they are all investigated (a practical impossibility in the short time) so it's a bit more being demanded?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    It’s the chilling effect. They are trying to scare the general population out of showing up at the polls.

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  • [–] 38 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    do they really believe people will vote for them because they are arresting people who weren't going to vote for them

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago*

    Unfortunately Trump's base is very cruel, and yes they do enjoy seeing this.

    They will scream one minute about abortion, then scream the next about how all the children in Palestine deserve to die.

    This is not hyperbole. This is the real politics over here right now, and it's fucking insane.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago*

    No they believe that if they stop everyone who will vote against them from voting, that the handful of die hard supporters will carry the rest. They aren't trying to motivate the base, they are trying to either arrest or intimidate the opposition.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 weeks ago

    For any CDN idiots trying to visit the US from Canada in November: they are trying to drum up "evidence" you are voting there.

    ie. Trumped up charges.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago

    So much winning.

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    [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

    So who could the Republicans get to illegally vote for them? Russian agents? Maybe they bus around bunch die hards to go place to place attending rallies and voting in every location they can.

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  • [+] -30 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

    Russian agents are not supporting the Republican party. Stop pretending there is some conspiracy to make America like this. They did it themselves. Trump is like the most American American to ever American.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Published as a strategy suggestion in 1997 and is literally a textbook for their military academy. Notice how it says "for instance, provoke Afro-American racists". The playbook is to find existing pain points and dig in deep. Obviously it would be much more difficult to create such a movement from scratch. Much easier to inject ragebait into the lives of people already prone to being hateful.

    Other great bits:

    The United Kingdom, merely described as an "extraterritorial floating base of the U.S.", should be cut off from the European Union.

    Wonder if that could ever happen, eh?

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago

    It's already been proven that Russians interfered in the 2024 election through disinformation campaigns aimed at discrediting Joe Biden and Kamala Harris / boosting Trumps candidacy. I don't even know how people like you are convinced otherwise at this point.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Trump is owned by Russian mobsters with whom he’s been laundering money since the 80s, and Putin who almost certainly has compromising videos of the president with underaged children (and I’m guessing at least one snuff video because Trump is a sick fuck who Jeffrey Epstein described as the worst person he’s ever known). It’s patently evident they conspire together—Trump himself admits he talks to Putin every week. “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.”

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Trump literally cannot be blackmailed. Any compromising evidence would be dismissed by him as AI or fake news and his followers would believe it without question. And in recent years, it's been shown that Trump is basically above US law.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    And yet he is inexplicably relaxing sanctions on Russia while they are invading our ally, Ukraine (whom we signed a pact with to protect them from Russia when they denuclearized). Russia also supports Iran. So we're harming our ally to benefit our enemy, who also supports our other enemy who we are also at war with.

    So if he can't be blackmailed, then he's just doing it for money/love of treason.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    I remember when MAGA claimed Trump couldn't be bribed because he was already rich. Trump checks pretty much the boxes for someone who can be both bribed and blackmailed: he's greedy, proud, insecure, has a criminal history he wants to keep secret including rape and money laundering, is a pedophile, has no sense of loyalty, and there's a good chance he was (maybe still is) in debt to the the Russian mob.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Even if Russia did meddle, it is/would be because it’s incredibly easy to fuck with US politics.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    “Noncitizen voting in a federal election is a federal crime, and knowingly facilitating such conduct is equally unlawful,” McCotter wrote in a letter to county officials and California Secretary of State Shirley Weber that was obtained by the Associated Press. “If persons knowingly tabulate ballots cast by individuals identified by federal agencies as noncitizens, they risk becoming aiders and abettors to a federal crime.”

    Here it is. They intend on arresting people using "aiding and abetting"

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Sounds like Republicans intend to start arresting state election officials, and the bar they've set for doing that is so low that they can basically arrest whomever they want, and thereby shut down polling or counting facilities at will.

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