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It's as empty as musk promises

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  • [–] 50 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Plastic caps being attached to bottles has nothing to do with carbon footprint, it's to reduce plastic waste in the environment.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    For that it has to be collected first. This way it can not get lost on the way, especially not from the hand of someone drinking.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Great so we can put the plastic in the air and lungs

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  • There's no plastic in the air at trash incineration plants.

    It might not be the case anymore, but it was more likely that plastic sent for recycling would be burned in an open trash fire than actually reused to make more plastic.

    Outside of certain things, like bottle deposits, plastic recycling isn't real, and the best way to dispose of plastic is industrial incineration, not landfills, and not "recycling".

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Fun fact, the EVs normally have a set of fuses which blow when rolled over. These had to be removed for the demo.

    EDIT: someone else posted a photo of the demo car itself not even having the high voltage battery installed; in other terms it does not drive.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I wish we could organize to ignore those idiotic product show-offs from billionaire's playgrounds. No talking, no commenting, no sharing, living as if it ever happened. This would make those products be abandoned by investors and fade into the nothingness they deserve, along with their ego and all the invested money.

    One can dream...

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    SpaceX and Xai merger started with the complete fraud that datancenters in space are an economically viable proposition, when even in the US, solar and batteries on leased Nebraska farmland, is over 5x cheaper, even with most optimistic launch cost assumptions.

    Adding jump thrusters to cars is an unrealistic/impractical fraud to justify a spacex tesla merger.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    That ignores the part where data centers in space are just stupidly complicated to currently basically being impossible

    You have to start with little things like network latencies, but when you get to heat dissipation things just get stupid.

    Then again, stupid impossible is kinda Elmo's modus operandi. Just claim you'll do something stupid and or impossible, people will dance for you, then you just get billions to spend a fee years pretending that you're actually doing it and then you, you know, just dont do it. Elmo musk in a nutshell. IH, that and Hitler babies, that too is his thing

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Those thrusters use compressed air.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Manufacture the system. Compress the air. Go on.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    It's pretty clear the author here is misinformed and thought that those are rocket engines. Just like they were misinformed about why the caps are attached to the bottles.

    Them creating this cartoon and posting it online produced COΒ² as well. Nothing survives that purity test.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    Why the fuck am I seeing bottle caps getting compared to some billionaire's vanity project everywhere?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    The direct connection escapes me, too.

    It would be more reasonable to compare a measure, that actually helps to reduce trash and co2 footprint with that flying car. Plus: there is no reason to stop it, just because there is one very rich, annoying guy.

    The effect of one toy project (look at me I build flying cars. Look at me!) isn't that big. Like Kanemann said, people are poor intuitive statisticians.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    What caps are attached to bottles? I don't think I have seen that.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago

    EU decision. All caps used in single use beverage containers (bottles etc). Around 100 billion bottles per year are used in the EU.

    The goal is not reduce the carbon footprint, but to reduce litter (loose caps ending in the environment).

    It is convenient if implemented well, and annoying if not.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    A big thing in Europe now. It might be limited in some areas based on whether the plastic of top and bottle need to be separated for recycling.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    It's awesome. I love having a few drops of liquid in the cap and the cap being in my face while drinking, the drops on my face now.

    Also great for people with disabilities who can not hold things that good and caps sometimes snapping back can make a mess eg when pouring.

    Yes, while it sounds exaggerated I've had it all happen sometime. So I tear them off.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Disabilities are a weak argument. Depending on which one, tethered caps can be either beneficial or not. In any case, they are relatively easy to tear off, by design. If you aren't disabled they should be no challenge at all. Indeed I don't know a single person who feels challenged by them, non of them have them in their face while drinking and I have no idea what drops you are facing either. Surface tension that keeps drops in a cap also keep it there while drinking.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    I am and I have issues with it. So?

    I have neurological issues so motor skills don't work as they should. I could lash back at presumptions but I am tiredly used to it. Also getting downvoted for speaking out.

    I also have sensory issues in public transport with the loud beeping on closing doors, which is the cheap way to help (partly) blind people.

    It already sucks to be disabled.but what sucks even more is people like you invalidating personal experienced issues because you have no idea.

    Deal with your own weak tolerance.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    For me the bigger problem is the plastic bottle attached to the cap.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    It seemed to be standard in France when we’ve taken my wife’s parents back to visit their hometown

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I'm sorry. But I think you missed my point. I didn't doubt the attached caps.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    It uses conpressed air not c02

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Compressing air for absolutely useful and necessary entertainment purposes is always powered exclusively by carbon free energy now I guess...

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Are you opposed to EVs in general for the same reason? Because very few places have zero carbon electricity.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    very few places have zero carbon electricity

    So you admit it does indeed use CO2.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    The Roadster FV uses cold gas thrusters, IE compressed air. There's no carbon footprint apart from the energy used to run the compressor.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    "Apart from" is doing a lot of heavy lifting for that carbon footprint, and I mean specially for the action itself, not development or parts. Compressed air is about as inefficient as it gets.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Well yes, you get the golden cup of shit for the dumbest take on the subject, like, ever.

    ”Hitler committed genocide, so what's eo bad about my little murder?β€œ - OP (allegedly)

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I believe they're making a point about media's efforts to blame consumers for global warming, while the 20 most emissive corporations singlehandedly released 40% of global greenhouse gas emissions in 2024.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    And who is buying products from those companies?

    Sure you can blame the seal clubbing company for clubbing seals. But of you keep buying their seal skins, you surely are taking a good chunk of that responsibility too?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    People buy what they can afford. The seal clubbers also like to put "ethically harvested" stickers on their pelts.

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