I'm not afraid of death. I'm afraid of dying. Once you're dead it's easy.
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I'm afraid I'll have to go through all this shit again.
Fun fact, according to other beliefs, you've already been through this shit infinitely. Only the YOU in this moment realizes this one.
There isn't really an effective 'you' then is there?
I think, the therefore I am.
I'm pink, therefore I'm spam.
But if you only can think about yourself as your 'current you' because that's all you can remember, then that's the only 'you' there is. A soul or whatever that transfers between subsequent lives but retains no memory, is effectively non existent.
I wasn't aware of the abyss before being born. Now that I'm alive, I can feel a certain way about it.
Reminds me of the Mark Twain quote: "Annihilation has no terrors for me, because I have already tried it before I was born—a hundred million years—and I have suffered more in an hour, in this life, than I remember to have suffered in the whole hundred million years put together. There was a peace, a serenity, an absence of all sense of responsibility, an absence of worry, an absence of care, grief, perplexity; and the presence of a deep content and unbroken satisfaction in that hundred million years of holiday which I look back upon with a tender longing and with a grateful desire to resume, when the opportunity comes."
Or as I explained to the head of my church when I was 19 and he asked me how I could not fear death if I did not believe in an afterlife: "I'm not scared of the idea of eternal nothingness after I die. Nothing can't be scary, because that's something, and then it wouldn't be nothing."
Because now I know the difference and... I don't want to go.
Live is a drug, once you try it, you cant have enough
A common saying on Roman tombs/graves:
Non fui, fui, non sum, non curo; often abbreviated as NFFSNNC.
It means, ‘I was not, I was, I am not, I care not.’
I'm not afraid of being dead, it's the actual dying that's terrifying.
Working in hospice and working with people as they approach their transition and end of their experience here, there's a touch of comfort and anxiety watching the many ways people can go. There are definitely preferred ways to go, and some that are heartbreaking, and some that I would personally find terrifying. Don't fear comfort meds. They're there for a reason.
I'm an infantry combat veteran and my experiences with death lean more towards the violent. My only real goal is to live long enough to die naturally as the other ways all seem rather unpleasant, but if assuming I don't make it to a ripe old age, then I just hope it's quick.
Afraid? On the contrary, it takes everything I've got to not get their early.
If nonexistence was temporary before birth, surely it won't be temporary after birth
Yeah it'll be a hella long time before your mind molecules come together again, sure
But you won't feel how long it was. You'll just be born again with a new and different existence
Time goes to infinity, which means that there is a 100% chance of it happening again in any given amount of time
Not what infinite time means or implies.
How can you have infinite time to do something and never, ever do it?
There's no such thing as a perfectly zero percent chance of anything. Roll enough times, roll 52! times or Googolplex times and you'll see the most crazy shit happen
Because infinite possibilities does not include impossible events.
Imagine an infinitely long track. We will pretend, for the moment, that this represents whatever makes you "you" and that the track doesnt end like literally everything in creation.
You were placed on it by a unique set of circumstances including time, place, and genetics, but you will never be able to leave the track. That would, metaphorically, represent a life event like you flapping your arms hard enough to fly. It simply will not happen, no matter how long you travel down the track, because you are bound by the limits of the track (physical reality)
You still have an infinite amount of area to explore. Just not outside of what is possible.
Assumes the universe can’t reach a static state that it remains in forever. Final shape, if you will.
You talking about the inevitable heat death of the universe?
Yeah there's a 100% chance that it won't stay like that. Just a matter of time until whatever caused the atoms and energies to become clumpy and imperfect is going to do it again in some big or small way. There's no beginning and end to the universe, which means that it has existed for an infinite amount of time, which also means that heat deaths have happened before
Everything that can go wrong will go wrong. Everything has already happened and will always happen, over and over again in incomprehensible stretches of time that the human brain is not capable of quantifying
One day you will be a green pigeon with legs made of beans, who is the president of basketball planet. Everything has happened before and will happen again, just like anything ever
We get it. You have infinity as your denominator and that takes you literally everywhere. However I must point out that if everything must happen “everything” includes an infinite unending static state to the universe. This is not a contradiction as we know some infinites are larger than others. Right after I am a green goose with a candy whistle for a dick, a permanent heat death of the universe will be the next thing to occur.
The void is not frightening, it's comfy and warm. I go there every night.
Death is not frightening, it is only a moment.
What is truly terrifying, Cool bug, is eternity.
The void is fine, its actually preferable to the other stated alternatives. I fear the pain on my way there, and the pain my absence may bring to those I care for
After bug is the same as before bug.
You have already experienced the loss of bug. Do not fear the absence of bug.
Cool bug fact’s what? What does the cool bug fact own?? YOU CANT LEAVE US HANGING!
The fear of death is more than the fear of experiencing death. Its also about the fears of not accomplishing enough, the fear of leaving loved ones alone and many more things.
I'm going to save this and send it to a friend or family member who trusts me dearly, while they're having a bad trip.
Because I don't remember experiencing the nothingless void... But if I go by the feelings I have when I think about it which is dread it must have been awful
Facts does not need an apostrophe as it is neither possessing anything nor contracting with anything
To quote (or more likely paraphrase, it's been a while) Dan from the Game Grumps ... I'm not afraid of being dead. I'm afraid of dying.
As someone who's lived with DPDR (depersonalisation derealisation disorder) my whole life this was genuinely how I felt about death for a long while.
My first experience in life was a void where I couldn't sense anything and didn't know I was a person but was still fully aware. Then I somehow appeared in 4 year old me's body as though I was used to animate a body.
Funnily enough, I also grew up in a family of orthodox faith, but I never really believed in it, instead I used to basically be a closeted Buddhist in a sense of believing reincarnation, but have since become atheist but still follow practices from both religions.
A very good and well soothed explanation of what happens in the process of dying:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZDDByT0Vr0
If you are afraid this video may help.
But you're not annihilated in a material sense. You're rendered agentless - incapable of expression or engagement - as the machinery of your form fails you.
You're not gone, anymore than a spoon full of sugar dissolved in a glass of water. You are decomposed. Overwhelmed at last by all the other organisms trying to devour you. Then reincorporated into the next generation of stuff.
I am more then just my atoms.
Water: 35 liters, carbon: 20 kilograms, ammonia: 4 liters, lime: 1.5 kilograms, phosphorus: 800 grams, salt: 250 grams, saltpeter: 100 grams, sulfur: 80 grams, fluorine: 7.5 grams, iron: 5 grams, silicon: 3 grams, and trace amounts of fifteen other elements... That's the total chemical makeup of the average adult body. For that matter, the elements found in a human being is all junk that you can buy in any market with a child's allowance. Humans are pretty cheaply made."
The grammatically incorrect apostrophe in the title is really rustling my jimmies.
I'm not afraid, in fact, I desire it. But there's a couple people who'd be pretty upset if I left, and I don't want to hurt them, so I'm stuck here.
Being “part of the whole“ is such a beautiful concept. Mind, process of thought, is a prison in a sense.
After death, what once was you, will become a small part of a universe - a timeless, infinite creature. I don’t believe there’s God as a separate person - but I believe that universe itself is a God. Everchanging, everlasting chaos where everything and nothing makes sense.
I missed SO much and I’m bummed about it. Aren’t you? I wish I could see the San Francisco Bay before a single European settler set foot on it. I would have loved to have been at Woodstock. And I want to see everything else that happens in the next 1000 years and beyond. We get a snapshot. It’s amazing but not nearly enough.
How do you know the beginning/end location is a void of nothingness?
Because non-conciousness with no brain activity is pretty simply "nothing". Nothing is going on in you, so what you must be experiencing is nothing.
That makes sense in materialist metaphysics, but in recent decades materialism has become increasingly contested in philosophical circles. Philosophers like Bernardo Kastrup, Phillip Goff and David Chalmers being among the most prominent of its critics.
as a relatively new philosophy nerd, please maybe show me some good reads by those folk? currently working through some Beaudrillard..
Absolutely!
Bernardo Kastrup: Materialism is Boloney
Phillip Goff: Galileo's Error
David Chalmers: Facing Up to the Problem of Consciousness (This is his famous essay in which he coined the term "the hard problem of consciousness.")
I find Bernardo Kastrup's case for analytic idealism to be the most compelling.
I don't respect people whose job title is "Sit in a room, and think about stuff"



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