cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/73406944

It all started when my main Reddit account was banned—simply because I posted a comment criticizing the banning of a subreddit—resulting in the immediate loss of an account I’d held for about 4 years, with 102k karma. I appealed, but I received no response—not even a reason for my ban, nor any notification that I had been banned in the first place. I’ve filed appeals repeatedly over the past few months, but today, I’m finally giving up. Fuck Spez and his pathetic, whore of a family. When I submitted my appeals, there wasn’t even any indication that they had gone through; I was just left in total silence, unable to do a thing. I started using an existing alt account for basic tasks, but today, that account was banned too—all because I recommended the non-profit, open-source "VPN Gate" project to someone who was complaining about the mandatory KYC (age verification) requirements being imposed in my country. The only reason I was still using Reddit was out of habit, and I’ve decided it’s time to change some of my habits. Ultimately, this is the inevitable fate of every centralized corporation—without exception. There’s no guarantee that some complete moron won’t end up in charge of any of them. I wish more people realized this. If four years of my effort are being sold off to AI data companies, and everything can be permanently wiped out overnight without a word of warning, then that is, quite simply, data theft. Once again, fuck you, Spez—you absolute piece of shit. If you had even an ounce of courage or integrity, you wouldn’t have imposed those damn API restrictions in 2023 and ruined Reddit. I truly regret the four years I spent here, but it’s better to cut my losses now. Goodbye, you son of a bitch Spez, and your puppet, Reddit...

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[–] 34 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

Apart from habits, what were the sub-reddits that kept you there, and stopped from transitioning completely before? We can start making similar content and bring more people here.

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  • [–] 40 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    I went cold turkey after the third party app debacle but I really missed the home assistant subreddit. There is a home assistant community but it’s nowhere near as active.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago

    I miss getting help with all sorts of stuff, home improvement and repair and how to stuff, brewing, growing stuff, and the like. Plus they have way better animal videos, to say nothing of all the other video content not found on lemmy.

    Can't be helped, reddit is unusable, politicians and rich dickheads are leaning on them to make moderation decisions and they are trhing to bend us over for them.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    With respect, "it's not as active" for a Home Assistant community as in what? You don't get replies to your questions? People don't ask you enough of them?

    If the former, that is a genuine problem, but hasn't been my experience on Lemmy. There are fewer responses, but they are more thought out and less likely to be puns, references, and other low-hanging-fruit jokes.

    If the latter, then proactively make guides so people will be more likely to join? Someone has to be the first on the dance floor.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    That’s a fair point and it is the latter.

    I have only posted one question about a problem that I had and I got an answer that resolved my issue.

    Unfortunately, I’m not in a position to help build up the community. I have a very small and basic setup and don’t have time to build it up let alone make posts about building it up.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    If 100% of posed questions are answered, I don't think it makes sense to call it any flavor of inactive.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    A sample size of one isn’t sufficient to conclude that every question gets answered.

    Also, I didn’t say that it was inactive. I said that it was nowhere near as active as Reddit.

    There are about two or three posts per week which includes all the release announcements for home assistant and various components.

    On Reddit there was at least five or ten times that activity with posts every day including questions, automations and dashboard ideas.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Okay? The ocean has more water than my sink, but you don't see me complaining that my sink has too little water.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    You seem to have got your knickers in a twist over something and I don’t understand what.

    Let me summarise the conversation from my point of view. Someone asked what subreddits kept someone on Reddit. I made the comment that a particular sub that I liked on Reddit was more active than the equivalent communities on Lemmy. It wasn’t a complaint but a statement of fact about what made the transition more difficult for me which I made to contribute to the discussion. Then you seem to have taken that as a complaint and taken offence at it for some reason.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    I didn't read your paragraph after you opened with that toxic BS, so I'll just respond to your initial issue:

    You're being a Negative Nancy, pretending Lemmy isn't worth investing in, which makes people not bother signing up and just stick to their corpo slop social medias.

    I tried to walk you through the logic, but you lost your mind. Enjoy the block.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Not OP, but there are a lot of niche subreddits where you simply can't get information anywhere else. I quit Reddit entirely after the APIocalypse, and I know around that time people started replicating the extensive network of Sports team subreddits in various places here. But, there are simply not enough people here to make that work.

    I have not logged in (other than to manipulate the crypto out of my Reddit Vault and sell it before it crashed) since then. There are precisely four subreddits I monitor via RSS because the info simply doesn't make it here. But Reddit has already announced their RSS access is going away. When it does, I guess I'll just have get that info somewhere else.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    The niche subreddits are really hard to adjust without. I would’ve gone cold turkey if it weren’t for those because you simply can’t find the info anywhere else. I was using RDX to browse those subs but now that’s gone too (for now, hopefully the dev finds a workaround)

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I was able to use RDX up until a few days ago. Like you I was mostly out after the API debacle but I did use RDX to browse r/all for mental junk food. I started out just doing it once in a while but I got more in the habit even as the quality dropped. It’s for the best that I no longer have that crutch. I will miss being able to look up the post episode discussion of whatever show I’m currently streaming. I don’t see Lemmy getting the critical mass for those types of discusaions anytime soon.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yeah it’s probably better I don’t have the crutch either. I was using it a lot to read stuff like AMITAH and the amount of stuff that was either fake or AI was through the roof. I guess I just wish I had more lead time to wean myself off because being cut off just like that is a hard struggle.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Girl/boy dinner diaries is basically AMTAH-lite and consistently on the front page. Why is it like catnip to me? I was never gonna wean or taper. It just had to be cold turkey

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    I've been clean cold turkey from Reddit for over 3 years now since I made my Lemmy account but I still really miss active discussions about newly released games :(

    You can make a post in one of the gaming comms here and sometimes you'll get a couple folks, but it doesn't really catch on the same. I had a grand old time reading tons of build discussion and memes when Elden Ring came out, but since Nightreign came out I effectively haven't interacted with its community at all.

    I like Lemmy specifically because it is smaller and more close knit, usually. But it misses out on some of the bigger town-square types of discussion that reddit could enable because reddit had sixty five gorillion users, especially in the gaming space.

    I expect that whatever discussion of this type doesn't exist on reddit probably exists on Discord but that also sucks for a completely separate, but similar, set of reasons. I still use Discord, as of currently, but I hate interacting in big public servers and never do it, and it misses a lot of the thread-and-comment structure that I liked so much about Reddit. (Discord does technically support threads, but they work differently and nobody uses them properly anyway.)

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    I read reddit but no longer contribute in any way. Activity level is just way lower here, especially for niche interests. I've increased the amount of other websites I look at (here, hacker news, steam forums) overall

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Most of my habits stemmed from the fact that I found the general chaos of Mastodon overwhelming and too complex for daily use. For instance, while Reddit has its own straightforward website and app, Mastodon lacks a clear, simple interface—which made it seem overly complicated to me from the start. Consequently, I always found it much easier to quickly hop onto Reddit to post or leave a comment. Most importantly, the number of active users on Mastodon is, unfortunately, still far lower than on Reddit.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago

    You're on the Lemmy version of the fediverse. Mastodon is like Twitter, whereas Lemmy and Piefed are like Reddit.

    • Change up how you see stuff: Hot, Scaled, Every 6 hours. Active is the least active ironically.
    • Remember, this is mostly not an angry factory like reddit, so you're going to go through withdrawal. I'm serious.
    • Upvote if you like it an post stuff that interests you.
    • Remember there are still trolls here. They brigade and fight with you for odd reasons. That should give you a heads up if that starts to happen.
    • Not every instance is great.
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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Since Mastodon was mentioned I'll also add that a thoroughly hate that Mastodon doesn't even attempt to show you anything unless you enable Javascript. I'm a user of NoScript so websites don't run JS by default unless I explicitly opt in. For most sites that's not a huge deal since it's just a one time thing but because Mastodon is federated I need to opt in every instance individually which means 90% of the time on the rare occasion I visit a Mastodon link nothing loads initially.

    I wish Mastodon did the thing most non-sketchy websitss do and renders at least a basic view of its content without JS so I could at least decide if it's worth enabling JS in the first place.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Don't know what his subreddits were, but I still go there for guitar, and luthier (well 8 guitar related subs in total).

    We have a NDP community here, but it's not very active, even though I suspect that the sub is mostly bots at this point.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    I try to keep mostly to lemmy, but the American football scene and the OSRS scene are nearly non-existent here. OSRS being the worst of the two, there's almost never any updates or posts even. Yeah yeah, be the change I wanna see, but I don't wanna talk to myself, that's how dead it is lol

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  • [–] 26 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    I love that it says "This account is banned" Then immediately "Jump back into explore communities" Lol

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    "we don't want you to participate anymore but we still want you to look at ads"

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    They have ads? Joking but I never saw any with firefox on ublock. So at least I screwed them back a little, but they got all my comments for free, no small thing adding up all of our contributions, worth more than the ad revenue in many ways.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    That's why I deleted my posts and comments regularly. There are even scripts to do this on mass https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I kind of wanted to leave mine up for posterity though. For the real people that may come across the stuff. But perhaps that was a mistake I've been turning that over, wondering if I should've just deleted it all.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I get where you're coming from. It feels wrong to let years of writing just vanish when it might still help someone. But leaving it up keeps concentrating all that value inside a company that only ever wanted it to sell ads and train models with it. It's already bad enough that a normal search often means appending "reddit" to the query. They gain so much power from that dynamic that I'd rather burn my old writing with me than keep feeding it. And honestly, since they can wipe an account overnight without a word, "posterity" there is rented at best. I'd rather start over and help build the information here, in the fediverse, where it can't be taken away by anyone person or organization.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    You sold me. Unfortunately I don't know if I can even remember all my handles, but I should try. Although the data scrapers have it all already by now, at least reddit and new crawlers won't.

    I wonder if there is a program to download all of your conversation trees first for yourself, then delete? I should look around for that first.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    I used that to delete all my posts, and then a month later had a notification for a reply on a post that from my profile page I couldn't see (as they were all deleted) but on the thread was still visible.

    Don't delete, edit your posts to fill them with nonsense.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Whenever I see people getting banned from Reddit I always revel in the fact that I left on my own terms. I never go back there voluntarily since the API Epoch. Eat my shorts, Reddit.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I left when the great conservatisation started before the API issues. When they basically wanted more conservative moderators in "liberal" places for fair and balanced approach. When people were being banned left and right for speaking out against the regime or telling LGBT people to arm up.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Seriously. At least back then their Android app was basically unusable. I haven't tried it since, but suspect that because ads I'd probably hate it anyways. It was an unhealthy addiction.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I didn't get banned I just quit. It was clear that it was going start rotting and it has.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Same here. Just now, I've created this account and Reddit will be erased off my phone.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    Dunno how long you have been gone, but it’s been bad for a long time. I deleted my account when the TPA thing was going on, and it was already bad by then. Have not been back and won’t.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

    Leaving Reddit is like leaving an abusive relationship (kinda: stick with me on this)

    1. Reddit makes the rules and tells you what you can and can't say
    2. Reddit won't allow you to speak about controversial topics that could be upsetting to it's advertisers (i.e. Israel)
    3. Reddit mods can ban you for no reason
    4. Appealing to "authorities" (Reddit, when mods go crazy) does absolutely nothing
    5. It hurts and is sad to leave
    6. It gets better once you leave
    7. You look back a while later and think, wow it is so much better now you've left.
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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    The first four of those also apply to Lemmy too though. Depending on the instance, Lemmy mods are even worse than Reddit mods. And there is no “authority” to appeal to here either. The only difference is that there aren’t advertisers that they’re trying to appease, it’s just whatever neckbeard you pissed off that will have a vendetta against you.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    The other thing that makes it feel like an abusive relationship is how huge it feels. How grand it seems, and how you just can't imagine life without it. I'm still healing from when I recently got sitewide banned for some alleged ban evasion bullshit

    And... as someone who's actually been in abusive relationships, I can attest to your analogy

    Only difference is, I still hope to get back in, and am waiting on my second appeal. It's not a perfect comparison because it still has its occasional good uses, but still I agree

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago

    Some of us left years ago without being banned because it was the right thing to do.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Left reddit after the API fiasco. You will be fine, anyway reddit is in a very rapid decline.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    It's really bad these days. A lot of the smaller subs are riddled with blatant AI slop posts and comments. What's even the point of being on the site when you're talking with bots?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago

    I banned Reddit a few years ago. They broke my policy so they had to go.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    I posted this picture, it got taken down by the mods. I was just pointing out that people are being wow'd by the "flying" car but shouldn't forget the man behind it.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    What was the likely innocuous comment that caught you a ban? I got IP banned for asking when they're going to launch Marjorie Taylor Greene into the sun. Apparently that was "promoting violence".

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Someone was complaining that in their country, everything requires identity verification under the guise of "age verification." I mentioned the existence of "VPN Gate"—a completely open-source, non-profit, educational VPN project that uses residential IPs rather than standard VPN IPs. My account was likely flagged as spam.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I got a violation, (never banned yet but went through maybe 10 accounts in 3 years of use,) one of the later ones was for suggesting Musk should ride his spaceships up into orbit.

    Apparently it's threatening violence. Appeal denied.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Today I stopped using Bluesky because they suspended my account for suspicious activity. I'm sure it's because I use a VPN to bypass age verification. Oh well. Mastodon and Lemmy it is.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    If it keeps happening, search your ip on the internet blacklits, just search that and click on the site and they will do it for you, there are several dozens.

    After multiple emails and other sign ups were immediately frozen, leaving me unable to get an email even, I checked and found I was on one, all I did was read the news and comment on social media, and work stuff. I think Israel is putting people on there that piss them off.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Alternatively reddit is done using you lol. Welcome to lemmy!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    apparently not, reddit trying to take down the spammers, and bots, that arnt propaganda. but it also catches strays which are normal users too. they lost alot of content/ traffic from banning people in the last year.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago

    Did you say something mean about fElon?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I’m in for making DIY Luigi prayer Candles and posting the instructions on witches vs patriarchy. Instant shadow ban years old account high karma no further correspondence from Reddit

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago

    it took you this long?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    If you haven't been banned from reddit yet, you're probably a bot. They don't want humans to use their site.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    Same bruh. Reddit’s decline is real. In Indian feeds, I only see people posting reels from Insta, thirst trap LLM slop in fashion subReddits or sexually deprived men fantasising about content creators and bollywood actresses in celeb subReddits.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    You can still go into your account and nuke all your posts and comments

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Being banned from Reddit is a compliment these days. That was the site that used to host thedonald, fatpeople and even pedo communities (and femaledatingstrstegy).

    I deleted my old account (14 years I think it was), created a new one a few months later, got banned within a few weeks for being a bigot or whatever.

    Which was weird, because a lot of my posts were literally defending trans people, but, there were quite a few arguing with the gun community (so, I'm guessing someone felt insecure they might lose their guns and reported me for bullshit).

    It's not even a good place to visit anymore. All the local communities have been overrun by Gun, drug and companies and right wing lobbyists it feels like.

    It basically became the equivalent of facebook, but they actually ban you if you disagree with their opinion. Lemmy is rapidly getting better

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    I think the “feminist” one (quotations because that’s not what feminism is about, Charlie Brown) was FemaleDatingStrategy. Basically red pill but for women. Terrifying stuff

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago*

    I've been getting this for a few weeks now, no way I'm making another account. Obviously loading the home page like 3 times per day is bot behaviour!

    Side note - If you save a multi reddit, it skips verification and autoloads old reddit. However if you try to load any comments it will block you.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    They just got rid of r/all won't work on mobile. Legit no reason for me to go there now. I would at least get some sort of news there

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    I have always wondered if some griefer could find an exploit that leveraged the ban hammer… and used a script that just banned everyone.

    Like, literally everyone. All at once. Bots. Humans. Mods. Admins. No distinction. If you log in using the front door, the account is banned.

    I’m not much for chaos, but abrupt chaos at a deserving target would be enjoyable to rubberneck at.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I left once they started blocking VPN access, and u didn't want to play cat and mouse changing VPN locations.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    Congratulations leaving that trash fire. I went back a couple times out of curiosity and man did I regret it. It's way worse than it was in 2019 which was my peak reddit usage time.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I got permanently suspended for unauthorized activity but I've only ever browsed and commented.

    And no one stole my 30 random character password with zero cross site duplication, either.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Lmfao, that’s me here every month. Nothing changes when you switch groups of douche bags. Don’t feel bad, I lost my Reddit account when I called out an online stalker in the open. Apparently my words were “uncivil”

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    I stopped using them years ago… it’s a garbage pile over there. Nooooooo thanks.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Similar thing happened to me. It was a near 20 year old account. Somehow it got hacked and banned. for my history I felt a sense of loss because I realized I wanted to be able to look back and see my old posts and comments. I appealed with no answer, it's like appealing into the void.

    I still had the addiction to seeing content and reading comments, seeing something always new. But I slowly started coming around to fediverse. Not all at once, I created a new reddit account just to see the content. It pissed me off they gated the content to people logged in, pissed me off they keep trying to push you to use the app, but I eventually gave in because of my content addiction to seeing that new dopamine drip feed.

    The final straw was when I started noticing a more hostile commenting environment. I would comment something innocuous, but then I would get people arguing with me on fairly un controversial comments. I would notice they would be accounts with private histories less than a year old. Some would have only fans- like ads in their profile.

    I also noticed a vast uptick in rightwing trolling and right leaning comments. These accounts all seemed suspect. Reddit had always been a left wing space. I really think a lot of the money being funneled into these midterms is being used for troll farms and bot farms to astroturf narratives on social media platforms. That was the last straw. I was arguing with people who were probably bots on reddit, giving reddit the engagement they want and I had enough.

    It really is an addiction, I had to cut it off but I still try to pull up reddit sometimes when i'm bored. But I think fediverse is really going to be the future and we have to keep getting people to gradually come here.

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