Who on Linux is going to consent to Microsoft telemetry on their machine?
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People will scoff at this but speaking from experience Defender is a very good AV if you are using MS Windows. MS has a vested interest in keeping their flagship OS safe.
Putting it on Linux though? No . Fucking. Way .
I use a Linux desktop for work. My employer is constantly threatening to replace it with a mac "so they can control it". Their main control point is microsoft defender. I would rather have defender on my work machine than be forced to use a mac.
I wonder if there will be a libre version of this. Somehow use just the database with an open source version with no telemetry
Mildly related: I might try to convince my job to let me use Linux come device refresh time. But we use all Microsoft stuff. Is support for Teams, OneDrive, etc reliable on Linux? I have, of course, avoided it like the plague for personal use so I don't know. Is anyone else in a similar situation?
I've used Teams on Linux and it worked fine. Granted it was basically just a wrapper for the web version, similarly with Outlook for Linux. I've not used One Drive on Linux, but that is what I'd be more concerned about.
I've used the web version of teams. Is the wrapper any different?
It's basically chromium running the web version, but it appears as though it's a stand alone app. At least that's how it worked for the couple of Teams for Linux and Outlook for Linux apps I tried. I used this as part of a contract gig for about 2 years on Ubuntu machine.
Can you send files through the chat? It's not an option in the web version.
I feel like I had posted screen shots through it a couple times. This was about 2-3 years ago and I may be misremembering. If you can't do that via web, then I'd not expect it to work unless I was using a Teams for Linux that wasn't a web wrapper, but I thought they all were web wrappers on Linux.
There's an unofficial Teams flatpak or just use web. I use Thundebird for Outlook. For some reason Outlook refuses to work on my Firefox, so I use Vivaldi for that too. OneDrive is fucked, but there is an Rclone integration if you can convince your workplace to give you the correct API permissions. I have unfortunately not.
They can now ditch the dumpster fire of an OS that is Windows and lobby for the adoption of a corporate choke-point on Linux while continuing to bludgeon the remaining bits of your dignity and soverignity. At least this could be so for enterprise Linux.
And it'll probably feel 150% faster compared to Windows. Just like Edge. lol
It'll most likely be used immutables more than anything. Which is shit for me because I fucking love Ubuntu.
See I am the key to bad things happening!!!! (I'm kidding I'm not special)
I switch to Ubuntu because windows slows down my ram speed and then windows goes and adds its security into it and makes it so that they're part of the OS no matter what.
Maybe they're already capitulating, accepting they couldn't write a proper os even if their damned lives depended on it and the next windows release will be a bastardised Linux distro with wine/proton built in so the compatibility would be transparent to the user. But idk, these are only hopes, I doubt that the people at Microsoft are that self aware and, even if they are, they'll find a thousand ways to fuck it up.
Why do we need defender if red hat exists?
What does Red Hat have to do with an anti virus?
I haven't been into linux since 2008 so forgive me on this one if I seem ignorant but isn't there redhat security and isn't that basically the same exact thing as defender except you just pay for it? Like isn't there redhat network security or some shit like that? So if linux already has a somewhat legacy security, why do we need to add microslop defender on top of it?
No, Red Hat for the most part is not in the security game. There is OpenSCAP. Red Hat OpenShift does have Advanced Cluster Security available. But generally no Red Hat doesn't make security products like that. I guess maybe the closest would be using Satellite to manage clients and see their compliance. I don't know if Satellite can measure OpenSCAP compliance... Yes, there is a lot of security built in, but no they don't really do many explicitly security products.
well that's a big F you for people enjoying freedom at work by using linux instead of windows and avoiding corpo bs

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