I replied to someone saying that the USSR defeated the Nazis saying that it was a group effort. Got into an argument and called a Nazi repeatedly because "I was mad that the USSR defeated the Nazis and hated them for it" which is ridiculous. This isn't the first time that's happened on Lemmy. What's up with that?

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[–] 73 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

This isn’t the first time that’s happened on Lemmy. What’s up with that?

It was lemmy.ml/worldnews...

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=24410054

If you go to settings you should be able to block an entire instance and then won't see them on /all

There's a couple instances that always moderate like that. But you're better off just hanging out, finding out for yourself, and then blocking what you don't agree with.

But there's another that bans people for downvoting AI, but only for a few days so people come back to be trolled. And at least one that bans anyone who tries to take anything seriously.

Stop looking at Lemmy as a single thing, there are dozens of instances acting largely autonomously and if one fucks up, make sure you call out that one and not the entire fediverse.

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  • [–] [S] 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    If you go to settings you should be able to block an entire instance and then won't see them on /all

    Thanks

    Stop looking at Lemmy as a single thing, there are dozens of instances acting largely autonomously and if one fucks up, make sure you call out that one and not the entire fediverse.

    Fair enough. The way Lemmy works is kinda confusing.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    That's just the admins of lemmy.ml for ya, here's a megathread on them

    You'll get banned for showing support for Ukraine or going against Russian narratives or if you remind them of Putlers promise to not invade or just shit talking Putler in general

    Or calling out propaganda sites - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522

    Or so much more, I actually haven't updated the megathread in a few months, but there's more recent stuff on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

    ETA - Join the lemmy.ml boycott today and help foster a better Lemmy-verse! No more posts, comments (except to counter their propaganda ofc!) or upvotes on any comms on the Lemmy.ml instance! To make this easy you can do an instance block at Settings > Block Tab > Scroll to bottom > Input "lemmy.ml" and apply And consider donating to individual instances instead.

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  • [+] -39 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Why anyone would trust anything you say I've no idea. Your posts are all very much made up narratives.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago

    Each and every post includes:

    • As much screenshots as possible to capture the full context (Tankies do love to complain that critics never have the full context after all)

    • Links to the modlog and source post wherever possible

    Titles are just a summary or interpretation, as is every article you've ever read. The full evidence is available for you to post your own interpretation if you feel mine is wrong.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, why trust them? Trust the public modlogs that they linked instead!

    Or, ya know, keep ignoring what's right in front of you, put your fingers in your ears and screech like a child. You seem good at that.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Ah shit, I think I was the guy you responded too! Sorry about what happened. I upvoted your reply. You are right, the Soviets had a lot of help. I just meant they bore most of the brunt of the war in Europe and that I, as an 80s kid, was never taught this in history class.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    No, it wasn't you. These guys were calling me a Nazi for saying it was a group effort.

    One was called EmmiLime and the other was Gary_Host_Laptop

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  • [–] 64 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Ya the guys in Lemmy.ml tend to be pretty weird like that. They aren't a monolith but in general they tend to think that Russia, China, and North Korea have never done anything bad and that all the evil in the world comes from capitalism in europe and America and that the whole world will be fixed when The Revolution comes. It is all sort of like evangelical Christianity with the numbers filed off, the president of the United States is like an appointed satan (appointed, not elected, they don't believe elections work/are real in the west) who rules over hell which is the west (sometimes stylized as "Amerikkka", often accompanied by an American flag emoji with a fire emoji on top of it or a jpeg of a Chinese emperor shooting a fireball), Karl Marx is sort of like Jesus and mao, lenin, Stalin, etc. are the disciples, and The Revolution is the rapture. It is a pretty interesting belief system and I think the .ml guys all mean well, but they can be really difficult to talk to sometimes, as you've seen.

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  • [+] -55 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    thats because its true, if you left your liberal echo chamber and read real news and read theory properly it would all make sense 😒

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, it's totally true, everyone knows the only member of the allied forces was actually the USSR. No other country fought against the Nazis, they did completely single handedly, and totally wouldn't have just sat there and let it happen, if Hitler hadn't violated their non aggression pact first.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    Sometimes a user's views don't align with the echo chamber they are posting in. When that happens in a political community, it usually ends in removal to protect said echo chamber.

    I never see anyone get called a Nazi in cat picture communities.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago*

    i got site banned from reddit for posting a picture of my cat on my porch.

    by the 'cats can't ever be outside' people reporting my post as violence.

    there are extremist nutcases in every community. the problem is they are hypocritical bad faith actors, almost always. who feel anyone that represents anything they dislike means they should have free reign to abuse and harass those people.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Like with the assholes that run LateStageCapitalism.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Look at the mods. It's a tankie bar.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    If you check the mod logs, it’s not even the mods that run their own instances. It’s mostly the admins.

    Fitting in an authoritarian shithole, isn’t it?

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Sometimes a user's views don't align with the echo chamber they are posting in. When that happens in a political community, it usually ends in removal to protect said echo chamber.

    So just like reddit? That's disappointing.

    I never see anyone get called a Nazi in cat picture communities

    Fair enough. I just thought it was weird to get called a Nazi for disagreeing that the USSR didn't singlehandedly defeat the Nazis.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    You're better off blocking Lemmy.ml

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  • [+] -18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    plz do, us communists wouldnt mind a drop off of libs and an increase in iq

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Then why the fuck do you idiots come to other servers and sign up once you realize a large portion of the fediverse has your instance blocked? Seems to me, you're the one who can't stay away from "libs".

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    Which worldnews? IIRC there are multiple communities called that way.

    Also you should stop using Facebook and Tiktok, it's not good for your brain and for democracy.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    Which worldnews? IIRC there are multiple communities called that way.

    worldnews@lemmy.ml

    Also you should stop using Facebook and Tiktok, it's not good for your brain and for democracy.

    What does Facebook and tiktok have to do with anything?

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    lemmy.ml is a tankie instance. Anyone and anything from there can be disregarded entirely.

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  • [+] -20 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    liberal worlder: "Tankies = anything remotely leftist"

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    The two lead devs literally have Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, two of the most horrific scum in history, as their idols and spend their time dick riding Mao. They’re openly Tankies.

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  • [+] -18 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    The two lead devs literally have Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, two of the most horrific scum according to Amrikkkan written history

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Fidel Castro tortured and executed thousands of political dissidents.

    Guevara implemented concentration camps for gays and literally took the motto of Auschwitz “work sets you free” turning it into “work will turn you into men”. Except he just had them tortured and executed. Along with hundreds of other political dissidents, himself personally taking part in the torture and murder of 216 people, making him one of the most prolific serial killers in history.

    Now, fuck off tankie. The only good commie is a dead commie.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    And yet things got significantly better for the Cuban people. Makes you wonder how bad things were under the Batista slavery regime, doesn't it?

    Let me guess, you'd hate Nat Turner, too right?

    Seriously though: how do you reconcile your view above with American celebration of Nat Turner?

    Do you ever think about the moral implications of Nat Turner?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Let me guess, you’d hate Nat Turner, too right?

    How in the world would you come to that conclusion, unless you're stupid enough to equate a dictator with absolute power, and a military commander under said dictatorship with full government authority, to a literal slave that staged a rebellion against actual oppressors?

    Nat Turner was actively a slave and staged a rebellion for his freedom and the freedom of the other enslaved people around him. And was executed for it.

    Fidel Castro was a dictator with full power. He WAS the oppressor. A more apt analogy would be siding with the people that Castro killed for not wanting to live under a dictator. Or the gays that Guevara put in concentration camps and had murdered rising up and rebelling against him.

    This is why nobody takes you idiot tankies seriously. You claim to be leftist but then support the same authoritarian bullshit that right wingers do. You cry about oppression then idolize the oppressors.

    And yet things got significantly better for the Cuban people. Makes you wonder how bad things were under the Batista slavery regime, doesn’t it?

    Yes, things were also horrible under Batista? I don't think anyone is going to argue against that.

    Things also got better for the average Chinese under Mao too... Unless you were one of the 10s of millions of poor bastards standing in his way and were murdered or intentionally starved out during the Great Leap Forward.

    Turns out you can make a lot of progress if you just murder anyone who disagrees with you.

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  • [+] -14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    haha yea! Amerikkka had no reason to lie about anything to do with cuba not lik they led the red scare and mercilessly shutdown any country that wanted communism, im sure they would tots not propagandize Castro.

    go ahead and give me a non cia source then, zionazi lib

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    worldnews@lemmy.ml

    You're supposed to block them.

    What does Facebook and tiktok have to do with anything?

    It's web sites for idiots, like the .ml users.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    "Well, you haven't blocked lemmy.ml. I can only assume you're also on Facebook and/or TikTok..."

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    it's hard to tell why because all of your comments have been deleted

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Oh gosh, any snarky comments about the reality of China and the fact that they are pumping out more billionaires than the US always gets deleted on ML.

    They are fucking delusional and ignore all evidence that challenges their bizarre viewpoints. When it comes to Russia they are even worse. They are not wrong about Russia doing the heavy lifting in WWII, but they are definitely being assholes about it.

    Whenever I am on Lemmy and noticed someone being very passive aggressive around politics you can almost guarantee they are from ML.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    I have found that if u make a legitimate argument backed by facts that are irrefutable, the mod will ban you and delete all your comments for breaking from their echo chamber. Decided to return the favor for their whole instance so I no longer have the misfortune of seeing any of the drivel on their communities. Sucks because there was a couple I enjoyed despite the tankies, but there's much better alternative communities on other instances that won't kick u out for having a differing opinion. .ml/hexbear basically = authoritarian cuck, it's like the communist version of Trump supporters as weird as that sounds.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Whenever I am on Lemmy and noticed someone being very passive aggressive around politics you can almost guarantee they are from ML.

    I have also noticed this a few weeks ago. I don't know whats with the snarky, ignorant, immature attitude, but its always .ml

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago* (10 children)

    Was not called a world war for nothing. There were tons of countries on the “Allies” side and tons on the “Axis” side. A simple search for WWII Allies member or WWII Axis members will show who fought on each side.

    There are to many to list here. Britain, Soviet Union, USA, Canada and China to name a few for the allies.

    Nazi Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Finland, Hungary for the Axis side.

    Edit forgot Italy.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    You forgot to include USSR on the Axis side too.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Consistently applying that logic would put nearly all the Allies on the Axis side

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    A non aggression pact is avoiding war, not joining a side, in the majority of cases.

    Unless the pact includes defining who they can invade without stepping each other's toes like the USSR and Germany.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    the pact includes [not] stepping each other’s toes

    Hm.. like some sort of agreement to.. avoid.. aggression. I wonder what we could call that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Well the “non-aggression pact” was the only one that actually saw the start of WWII when the Soviet Union and Germany jointly invaded Poland and split the territory between the two. If Hitler hadn’t gotten greedy and turned on the Soviets, everything would have turned out differently.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Mods on Lemmy are like the mods on reddit but on steroids. They'll ban you for completely petty nonsense.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    i think you have it the other way around. on reddit bannings are more severe, since you get banned from the whole site. you are facing against a sub mod ban, filters, and then the reddit admin filters too. plus thier shadowbans seems much harder to get around with, unless you are using evasion methods. on lemmy you can get banned bya community, or instance, but still can participate in those communities and instances if you have another account. reddit does IP/fingerprinting bans, as well ashadowbans.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    Lemmy was started by authoritarian communists (often called tankies) who got banned from Reddit, so they are generally more abundant here. They have their own alternate version of reality where the USSR was the most perfect society to ever exist and the west is the source of all evil in the world.

    There are a few instances (aka servers) they tend to congregate on, but the main one is Lemmy.ml. It was the first server made so despite its extreme ideological slant, it still has a lot of subscribers. Just avoid any communities on Lemmy.ml and this shouldn't happen anymore.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    To elaborate, they are tankies who believe trans rights are western pink washing. And who larp as Haitian revolutionaries from their ergonomic computer chairs. And who literally do not post outside of their home instance because they can't handle the internet without their "I win" ban button.

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    oh hey you're the guy who got banned for coming into a trans space and calling people fake cause you didn't like their opinions, interesting that you've found new home.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Wow, your days must be fun.

    But we already talked about it and I came out clean. But I guess you forgot that and now I'm "that guy", guess rules only go one way for you.

    I'll kick out tankies all day any day btw, even if they are trans (which was the case here IIRC), but being banned on .ml is what you'll get just for being normal or knowing history lol.

    Edit: better wording in my explanation.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    But we already talked about it and I came out clean.

    Can you expand on this?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    Basically I'm as pro trans as they go. I discussed with someone from blåhaj IIRC. So problem solved back then already.

    The stupid thread was about russia vs the west, but as Diva got my comment removed she likes to yell slurs at me since then it seems 😂. Also like, touch grass, it was 2 years ago.

    So yeah, for me Diva loves to harass people basically, and I'll probably block her because I don't need people like that in my life.

    Also think about it, in a thread about how the soviet union teamed up with the Nazis, an .ml person (in their magic land the URSS was nice and not at all with the nazis, contrary to all non russian history) comes here and berates me.

    🤷🏼‍♀️

    Wild.

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  • [+] -29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    no such thing as authoritarian lib

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Yeah, it's really inconvenient for y'all when people have a word to accurately summarize the fatal flaw in your ideology isn't it?

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    If I had to choose between having a conversation with someone from ml or dbzer0, id just give myself a concussion and take a nap.

    Edit: I need to correct myself. ml doesnt seem that bad and I think I got it mixed up with something else. Might be losing my mind a little.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Just so you know, that community (really instance) is so biased they literally won't allow any criticism of your home instance...

    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39126561?scrollToComments=true

    If a place to highlight mod abuse only allows posts they agree with, it's propaganda.

    Like, of all the communities that bias would be a problem, a place to complain about moderation is probably where it's the biggest problem.

    That being said, there's a fair chance you were already aware of that and have somehow rationalized it being ok

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Personally feel that was pretty rational considering the sheer amount of transphobic vitriol those threads always drew. I was tired of seeing them every time I scrolled, and some of the alt spamming transphobia stuff was completely out of hand. If you read the thread you linked announcing it, they also only banned a very specific genre of YPTB thread related to Blahaj, and other posts about Blahaj are still allowed.

    Note that this decision isn’t about ideological gatekeeping, its about reducing the workload for our own mods and admins in trying to moderate this community, and to avoid iterating over the same old topics again and again.

    Blajah isn’t getting a “free pass” over YPTB posts - if you feel they are power tripping over other issues then feel free to make a post here. But if it’s a post questioning the validity of xenogenders or about Blajah bans for gatekeeping then that will no longer be allowed here.

    Feel like you are representing this really unfairly.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Feel like you are representing this really unfairly.

    If you look at the timestamps that's an at least 2 year old post that recently seemed to get relaxed...

    I've had both those instances blocked for at least two years, and was running off memory.

    But I did take the time to search blajah just now, that mod post is the only post. It's possible there's some that just have a community name and are from that instance, but I doubt it.

    I also just don't really care that much about drama with two instances I've had blocked for years.

    Both places are full of power tripping mods/admins, whem I run into those places, I block them and move on

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Just so you know, that community (really instance) is so biased they literally won't allow any criticism of your home instance...

    So you led with a complete fabrication (2 years ago the admin of db0 is saying the ban should only cover that topic and that it should be temporary)

    I also just don't really care that much about drama with two instances I've had blocked for years.

    Which is why you felt the need to comment and lie about them. Sure thing. Any other things you don't care about you want to weigh in on unprompted?

    Also I just looked and a post about 196 on Blahaj and transphobia is the 3rd post from the top excluding the pinned thread. 😂

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm not sure why you'd think I'd have seen that when I just said it was blocked for years...

    But I looked:

    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/76216189?scrollToComments=true

    The blajah admin saw comments they didn't like on a different instance, and instead of blocking the right person, blocked someone else....

    I'm not sure why you'd support admins banning people for comments on completely different instances, but I honestly don't give a fuck, am not gonna try to change your mind, and am never going to see any other comments you ever post.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    They immediately reversed the ban and handled it graciously, but I pointed this out because your assertion was you can't criticize Blahaj at all on that comm or that instance. Something that happened less than ten days ago, and where everyone walked away happy. Please by all means block me for pointing out the egg on your face

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