All you have done is refuse to read anything I wrote, are vocally supporting fascism, and fucking lying about me, trying to make accusations that are untrue. Fuck anyone who does that shit.

Is it the platform that makes the difference for you?

I live in a contested state and voted for the democratic socialist candidate in the primary but I will, of course, vote for the mainstream dem in the general.

As a counterpoint, my uncle lives in a blue state and voted for a third party candidate in that last presidential election. My mom has basically gone no-contact with him over it. I think she’s just about equally as angry that I didn’t vote for the mainstream candidate in the primary but gives me a bit of a pass because I’m her son?

I think you make a good point about Tom having a platform that I hadn’t considered before. Did he use his platform to encourage people not to vote for her?

In that society and country, it’s the only approach that can be taken.

It’ll take a while to win that war through the vote if it can be. There’s only one way to win it…progressively change one party from within and with the vote and there’s only one party that could be achieved with.

There is no other peaceful solution, other than a national shutdown large and long enough to bring production to a halt and force the Houses to act.

That’s it. Those two. No others.

If Dem candidates support zionist racism they will lose.

Dont harp on the voters as if they are the problem here. Harris could have won that election by not taking aipac money, but she chose the money. She chose to shout down student protestors. She also chose to parade around stages with Liz cheney talking about prayer and her glock. She made a lot of odd choices, and then she lost every single swing state and every demographic of the dem voting base declined.

The reality here is that many Dem voters will just not vote for crimes against humanity, even if you euphamistically call it "strategic" voting. They do not care what you say, and you cant finger wag your way to convincing them to pull the lever for a genocider. I'm afraid thats the reality we live in, so maybe you should concentrate on pressuring Dem candidates to not lose a third of their base to idiocy.

Well here he is applying nuance. He can vote that way thanks to the realities of California. He is trusting the audience to understand that nuance of that stance.

It's a tricky one, since on the one hand he may be overestimating the electorate, but on the other folks inclined to listen to him may internalize the nuance and not get alienated by assumptions that he is selling out. I'm leaning towards the latter since he at least is calling people to vote instead of some blindly anti electoral take, which is fairly prominent in the online discourse.

I was downvoted to hell for saying this on the original post.

It is a privilege to be able to “vote with your conscience” when you’re life isn’t literally hanging in the balance of that vote.

Whether we like it or not, we are a two party system at the moment and voting third party in a presidential election is a wasted vote. I don’t care what anyone else says.

As cool as Tom is he still has the privilege of voting as white man, which is a very different experience compared to the rest of us.