I knew they were big bears but not TWICE A HUMAN size! I didn't even google this image for the polar bear I wanted to see how big a black bear is.

guess I'm never going to Antarctica!

edit: okay we got ANOTHER TIL. Apparently polar bears don't live in Antarctica!

...I need to watch more nature documentaries...

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[–] 197 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Good news, Antarctica is still polar bear free ;)

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  • [–] 110 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

    That is what the name means, afterall.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Why are people downvoting this?

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  • [–] 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    because it's not directly true, Antarctica means "land opposite the place below the bear-shaped constellations", not "land without bears".

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Because the name actually doesn’t have anything to do with real bears.

    It was directional about the constellation Ursa Major (which in Greek is Arktos Megale).

    There’s also Ursa Minor which is the little bear constellation, that contains the north star and is a great navigational tool.

    Arctic and Antarctic basically just mean north and south.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Would they have called that constellation Ursa Major if not for the presence of bears in that direction? Maybe the constellation naming was like, "don't go too far towards bear country if you don't want to deal with bears that think of humans as food." "Bears this way. Bears ahead."

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    There were bears all over Europe. They were a huge part of Greek and Roman mythology. They didn’t know anything about polar bears at the time.

    Bears have been important in many cultures, and Ursa Major is depicted as a bear in many non-Greek cultures as well, going back to prehistory.

    Many North American indigenous tribes depict it as a bear, long before European contact. Same with pre-Islamic Arabian cultures.

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  • [–] 96 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    They're northern Hemisphere, not Antarctica. We have them in our province (Manitoba), but yes they're big. On average tho not quite as big as the painting there shows.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    This would be a female bear, as she is with her cubs. Polar bears are actually the second most sexually dimorphic mammal. Consequently males are vastly bigger than females.

    The most sexually dimorphic? The elephant seal. Those dudes are immense.

    Edit: this, I read on wikipedia a couple of years ago. The information is no longer there but the fact that polar bears and elephant seals are among the most dimorphic mammals remains. The precise ranking is perhaps a little more obscure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_bear

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Third sentence of the first paragraph mentions sexual dimorphism, at least in the English version of the page. Mentioned a few more places too, so it's still there.

    Didn't know that was a thing, that's pretty cool!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I mean previously it stated that these were the two most dimorphic species. I'm guessing that due to the variance in body weight of the animals, it's not that easy to say that they are more dimorphic than other species, because that depends upon the variable body mass of the animals. But it's certainly a notable quality of polar bears and elephant seals that there can be such a huge difference, even if that difference grows and shrinks at different times of year.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I knew it! Seeing them in a Zoo many years back I got the impression they were pretty big but not THAT massive.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    I think the painting shows the largest they've found, not the norm. It's like showing Robert Wadlow (The tallest guy in the world at 8 ft 11.1 in (2.72 m) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow) to show the size of humans. Yes we can get that large, but it's an extreme example.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    If one of the average sized ones rises up in front of you and roars, I bet it would look just as big as that painting.

    Can anyone confirm? Probably not.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Yup, Not many people get the opportunity to see one up close and live to tell about it, unless there's something REALLY solid in between them. Like that Nat Geo guy in the cage. https://youtu.be/U-S4NbX5IYE They're absolutely terrifying up close...

    They don't typically roar tho, unless they're fighting or f..uh screwing. And they're not scared of anything.

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  • [–] 84 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    If it's black, fight back. If it's brown, lay down. If it's white, say good night.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I like the rhyme but I mean, what the fuck are the chances of running into a polar bear. As in, if you live near polar bears, you definately know how terrifying they are and don’t need to have a guide like this.

    No, I’m not fun at parties.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    If it's brown lay down
    If it's black fight back
    If it's white say goodnight

    There's a reason why they say that

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago

    There's reasons in rural communities in Canada that polar bears frequent that it is custom to keep your car doors unlocked at all times, so if someone walking runs into a polar bear they can dive into a random car for safety.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I've studied bears for a while now. There's actually a proven strategy for fighting polar bears. First you dodge to the left, then jump as high as you can and punch them in the eye. By the time they realize what's happened, it'll all be over and you'll be opening your eyes, hoping you prayed to the right god

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago (15 children)

    Arctus = β€œBear”, Anti = β€œagainst” in ancient Greek, or β€œopposite” in modern meaning.

    Arctic = bears are here

    Anti-arctic = opposite bears, or β€œno bears”.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Has absolutely nothing to do with actual bears though.

    The name comes from the constellation Ursa Major, which in Greek was Arktos Megale. Both mean the Great Bear.

    Basically it just means north and not north because the Ursa Major constellation has the North Star in it.

    It does just kinda work out that bears are in the northern hemisphere and not the southern hemisphere. There’s only one bear native to the southern hemisphere, the Spectacled Bear native to the Andes mountain in South America. There are no bears native to Africa or Oceania at all.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    You fell for the bait.

    But I learned so it's fine

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  • I saw this before somewhere and a commenter said they didn't actually know if there were bears or not in these places when they named them. This had more to do with the constellation Ursa (bear) major/minor (north star). But works out to being a nice mnemonic.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    This has come up before on lemmy.

    Wouldn’t a better translation given the context be something like the place opposite to the place where there are bears? It’s not like the Greeks somehow intuited that there was such a place and that there would be no bears there.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    In German Baerbel is a woman's name. And you say Baer if you mean beaver. The more you know. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Get me a saddle

    I'm about to show you something you can only do once

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Why not? You'd be safe from polar bears there!

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I think the artist took some creative liberties with this. I'm not sure exactly how big a polar bear or a grizzly is, but that black bear is freaking huge!
    I guess that I could imagine one getting that big, but that has to be the absolute max of an absolute unit of a black bear. The John Henry of black bears.

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    It is not just that they are enormous and strong. Its that they will actively hunt you for food unlike most brown or black bears.

    I think they are fairly unique among the animal kingdom for being willing to chance attacking a human. Most other predators don't find the risk of not knowing exactly how it would go to be worth it.

    There is a reason that a lot of the people that you see that live or spend a lot of time in the parts of the world that Polar Bears live in don't often go outside without high caliber weapons.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I think the sizes shown are probably biggest specimen. Black bears can get pretty big, but I've never encountered one that was taller than me.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago*

    guess I'm never going to Arctic Antarctica!

    FTFY.

    Sorry it's the inner nerd in me!

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago

    I will say, those bears represent the upper end of the β€˜weight ranges’ for those 3 species. Average sizes would be a bit less.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Theyre pretty much the very top of the food chain. They say there are multiple apexes because of different environments but id bet on a polar bear over a tiger or lion probably. Idk if its an accurate assesment tho.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Imo, the ladder goes:

    Rest of the terrestrial animal kingdom < Bengal Tigers < Polar Bears < Hippos < Rhinos < Elephants < Honey Badger.

    That's as far as the ratio of animal capability to fuck something up divided by willingness to kick something else's ass goes.

    I actually think the Tiger and the Polar Bear are fairly close in terms of power and lethality, and it would all come down to whether the Tiger had the opportunity to stalk, which it probably would avoid doing anyways to something the size of a Polar Bear.

    I still do not know where Honey Badger rightfully belongs on Earth's tourney ladders, so I rather err on the side of caution there in case one reads this.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    Ah, the North Pole. The furthest point from Polar Bear- (Dramatic Polar Bear backflip attack)

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    The woman looks so small next to those bears.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Based on the scale behind her she is quite short.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    So looks to be about 5’4”, or about average.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (7 children)

    162cm is average for women where you live with the other gnomes in your mushroom village?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Right there first line: 170.4 cm / 5'7"

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Nope.

    The CDC NHANES figure for adult women in the United States is 161.3 cm (5 ft 3.5 in). That's approximately the global average. Dutch women, at 170.4 cm, are the tallest national average on record.

    Ok we get it you are Dutch and so on average taller than everybody else. But no need to be so dismissive with that attitude.

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  • You’re an ass.

    Average Female Heights Worldwide Region Average Female Height Northern Africa 5 feet 3 inches Eastern Africa 5 feet 2 inches Western Africa 5 feet 3 inches Central Africa 5 feet 2 inches Southern Africa 5 feet 3 inches North America 5 feet 4 inches South America 5 feet 3 inches Central America 5 feet 1 inch Caribbean 5 feet 3 inches East Asia 5 feet 4 inches Western Asia 5 feet 3 inches Southeast Asia 5 feet 1 inch Central Asia 5 feet 3 inches South Asia 5 feet 1 inch Eastern Europe 5 feet 5 inches Western Europe 5 feet 5 inches Northern Europe 5 feet 4 inches Southern Europe 5 feet 4 inches Australia and New Zealand 5 feet 5 inches Micronesia 5 feet 3 inches Polynesia 5 feet 5 inches Melanesia 5 feet 2 inches

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Big bastards best stay away lest they suffer double nipple twisters.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    YSK bears have three pairs of nipples, better bring the sextuple twist or you'll be a bear stain

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    I have great bite strength and practically prehensile toes. That last nipple might be a deal breaker though.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Cave bears used to make polar bears look small.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I find it offensive that no one here has mentioned Rachel.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I guess there’s a good reason the movie, The Edge, was set in Alaska instead of Antarctica.

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