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[–] 123 points 1 year ago (12 children)

And for anyone in the US, just know that State Farm is one of the worst companies for Homeowners Insurance. They will pay the bare minimum. All insurance sucks, but State Farm is on a whole other level of suck. If you are with State Farm don't make the mistake I made and quickly find another company.

Seriously, leave State Farm. By not leaving I am now paying $20k that they should have covered.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Someone t-boned (and totaled) my truck and they had State Farm for car insurance. Everyone involved acknowledged I was not at fault, except State Farm. They wanted to write it off as a mutual fault, which would mean they wouldn’t have to pay for my damages. They also never told my insurance company, because it was news to them when I mentioned it. I just hope my insurance doesn’t go up because of their ineptitude.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah fuck that. Make sure your insurance company is going to bat for you, that's part of what they are paid for. Make it clear you dont expect this to count against you at all because the other driver is at 100% fault.

    Shouldn't take much push from them for state farm to fall into line.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Good time to mention my wife had State Farm when she was run off the road. We had the guy on dashcam with clear as day video of his face, and license plate. State Farm couldn't find the driver or the car, and said that we should just pay to have the wheels repaired (got curbed hard during the incident). The "repairs" were the same amount as the deductible. Then one of their reps let slip that they not only knew who the guy was, and who owned the car, but that he was covered with their insurance. So SF was pretending not to find they guy so they wouldn't have to pay our deductible... Shady as fuck.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I got them to replace my roof like 4 years ago, but it was an argument that took a couple of months because they wanted to go around and spot replaced only the damaged shingles. I stayed nice and held my ground that doing so would look bad and thus diminish the value of my home. It was like pulling teeth, but I was able to talk with someone at state farm who felt like wanting me to get my way by speaking nicely without myself being a pushover.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago*

    I had them when we bought our house. A tornado game around the second year. They sent me a check for 6k and expected me to get someone to do only half my roof. Took me little over a year and half. Found a guy who did the whole roof for the 6k. I turned in the recipient and pics and they sent me another check for 7k. I said what's this? They said thats what the claim was for. They estimated 12k. I told them if they paid that up front I would have gotten job done a year earlier. Because I gave them a quote I had gotten for 11k. Joke on them I got pocket that 7k, because whole roof was done for 6.

    Of course they raised my rates for filling a claim. Which is one of the biggest scams on earth. Insurance is supposed to be the transfer of risk. They are supposed to protect you. But if you file they raise your rate.

    Reminds of the story of this old guy. Had AllState for 20 years. Always paid, never had a claim. He gets into a fender bender and he said they raised his rate. He was pissed. Twenty years of monthly payments. Paid in way more than the wreak cost, and they fuck you.

    Also State Farm supposed to be a mutual Insurer which means your supposed to get a check at the end of the year for any unused money. Has anyone ever gotten a refund or money off the renewal?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    just know that State Farm is one of the worst companies for Homeowners Insurance.

    I wouldn't get any state farm insurance. We had to sue to get the very coverage outlined in the policy for uninsured/underinsured driver coverage.

    Just the worst.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I have had trial lawyers tell me that State Farm is a pain to deal with even when claims get serious enough to involve them.

    I have been using Allstate for a long time, and to their credit they have been good about approving my claims and paying fair amounts.

    In the 2010s I had a totaled car one year, then another year I had two homeowners claims: a moderate one to get new siding after damage from some insane winds, then a bigass claim that ended up replacing plumbing and flooring while we ran up months of hotel bills they paid.

    I’m not going to delude myself into thinking they’re a good company or give a shit, but my personal experience has been consistently decent.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I don't have state farm but get their offers in the mail all the time. I have a different agency that has covered our home and autos since 1998. That said, when we removed our pool I called to see if we could get a downward adjustment on our home insurance since... we not only removed the pool, we also had a 4.5 foot chainlink fence surrounding our property. They laughed at me.

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My dad paid off his mortgage and owned his vehicles outright. He had been that way for about 10 or 12 years when he tried to buy a small cabin. Even though his finances said he could buy it outright, he tried to get a small mortgage....the banks REFUSED to give him a mortgage. They said he basically didn't have a credit history. Its all made up bull excrement that screws with peoples lives for the fun of it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "damn this guys responsible, we won't make a buck!"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    If you took 10 loans, paid them all off and never missed a payment on any of them, then you have proven you are safe to lend money to.

    If you never took a loan, who knows if you can pay one back.

    Yes, it's stupid that being responsible means you are untrustworthy, but it does make logical sense that paying back loans proves you can pay back loans, and not doing so, well, doesn't.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    My premium nearly doubled because it's a manufactured house and it crossed the 25 year old line.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What is a manufactured house? Sorry for the ignorance I’m not familiar with the term. Sorry that happened to you.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    You've got nothing to be sorry about! Manufactured homes are built at a warehouse and then are trucked to the property where they're installed. They're built slightly better than mobile homes, but are built fairly similarly. They can come in multiple pieces such as mine that would be referred to as a double wide due to it being two pieces.

    They don't follow normal building codes, and in the US they follow HUD codes. HUD codes tend to be much looser. For example the trusses that hold up my roof are really crummy 2x2s that you couldn't use on a regular built house.

    The idea is suppose to be cheaper housing, but like pretty much everything geared towards helping the poor in this shit hole they're traps. They're still not very cheap, and they're poorly made. Meaning they'll start to fall apart after a couple of decades. I was lucky enough to be born into a poor but handy family so I can fix my turd of a house as issues come up, but the insurance company doesn't care that I rebuild things beyond code when I can.

    Here's a factory: https://youtu.be/jm2SbE9YuEA

    Here's an install: https://youtu.be/81WBC6_sahU

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  • [+] 97 points 1 year ago (21 children)
  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    No kidding! Way back in the 80s I had a US Bank account called "The Only Account". It was a checking and savings account where checking always had a balance of zero. When I wrote a check or withdrew money from an ATM, they automatically transferred money from savings to checking to cover it, and then the checking balance immediately went back to zero and that was that. No overdrafts. Ever. There was an annual fee of I think $20/year.

    I don't know where that idea went, but banks and even credit unions now act like they never heard of such wacky nonsense. "Overdraft protection" consists of loaning you the money, no matter how much you have right there in your savings acct, and they charge a fee each time and of course also charge interest on the loan. Ridiculous.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My credit union has this. That feature has kicked in for me a few times for me just this year.

    You didn't explain what would happen if your checking account had a $0.00 balance and your savings account had a $0.00 balance.

    Seriously can someone tell me what happens? Because money keeps coming out of my savings...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    If you flat out had no money I believe the check would bounce. At least I don't remember ever hearing of the automatic loan scheme until I moved to Seattle and merged into my wife's credit union. If your CU has an only-account type feature you should check your statement to make sure money that moves out of savings is to cover checks or debit transactions that would have come out of the checking account.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    “Overdraft protection” consists of loaning you the money, no matter how much you have right there in your savings acct

    That is not universal, many financial institutions let you set it up so that your savings automatically covers overdrafts.

    I've had that be the case in my Ally accounts since like 2010 at least, for no fee. Hell, Ally doesn't even charge overdraft fees at all anymore, apparently.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Srsly? When I had the Only Account it was in Oregon, then I moved to Seattle and couldn't find a bank with that feature. Even US Bank, where I had the account in Portland, didn't have it in Seattle. The clerk gave me a kindergarten explanation of how it's not one company, it's more like a family with lots of cousins all over. I LOL'd mentally because I knew it for a fact was and is one company (I had even traded their stock in the past, symbol USB). But anyway apparently their accounts and features varied by state and Washington state didn't offer thar type of account. I will have to look around again now, thanks!

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago (14 children)
  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    You say that like it’s an option chosen by idiots, but we literally must consume, as in people have to fucking eat, and we don't have the option to just nope out of capitalism and grow your own food on your own land unless you have a stupid amount of capital.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (11 children)
  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Maybe don’t condescendingly blame people living under capitalism for the cruelty inflicted by the ownership class, you fucking pleb.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Refer to my previous comment.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    All sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I get that you’re mad, we all are, but you’re attacking people in the same sinking boat as you simply for not having options, perfectly outlined by your condescending (and contradictory to your rhetoric) use of the word “pleb.” You’re not directing your anger towards the people causing the problem and you’re not attacking the actual issue, you’re just shooting yourself in the foot and victim blaming. Aim higher.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago* (3 children)
  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago

    Only my experience, but I've worked both as a teller and as back office in financial institutions for over a decade. Out of all of the people who were chronically overdrawing their accounts, I honestly can't remember a single one who was doing so off of buying essentials, it was always frivolous luxuries.

    Hell, over the years I've even heard a coworker talk about how they have no money until their next paycheck at the end of that week, and then later that same day, talk about what designer sneakers they want to buy when they get their tax return.

    There are definitely people who struggle to make ends meet, but the fact is, the majority of the times ends aren't met, it's deliberate. People in the US are more likely to have a problem with overspending than underearning, on average.

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  • [–] 93 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Yeah cuz a credit score measures how good you are at being a credit customer, not how good you are at money.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    And is irrelevant to the text above? They said their insurance went up not that their credit score changed.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Wanna take a guess at one of the factors in how much you pay for insurance premiums in most US states?

    For people with poor credit, buying a house can be challenging — and expensive. Once you find a lender that’s willing to offer you a mortgage, you’ll probably have a higher interest rate than someone with good credit. And you could also pay significantly more for homeowners insurance.

    A NerdWallet rate analysis found that a person with good credit would pay $2,110 per year for homeowners insurance, on average. But in most states, someone with poor credit would see an average premium of $3,620 per year — over 71% more.

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  • [+] -14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    You don’t need to loan money to get a credit rating, that is a total myth.

    You're right in that you actually need to be loaned money to get a credit rating, but you're just entirely wrong overall.

    The credit rating is based on assets and income, debt actually has very little effect on it, only if you declare bankruptcy does it usually change the rating.

    You're objectively incorrect. Please look into what the credit agencies say they use before you provide your opinion.

    How much you owe and your payment history is 65% of your credit score alone. You literally have to be loaned money to have a credit score.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Yes my car insurance jumped $100 the minute I paid off my car.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I've found that this is usually a "staying with a single insurance provider" problem. I usually end up switching every two years or so, but I check everytime my six month renewal comes up. I've found that my premiums pretty consistently go down so long as I keep looking around. The last few times I switched from geico to progressive then back to geico, and the cost went down each time I switched.

    Fun fact. At the last call to make sure my insurance was switched over properly, I had the csr angrily explain that in order to get the same affect, all I had to do was ask for a reevaluation of my policy. It turns out that the automated systems that send out your new price every renewal don't do a good job of adjusting the premiums down and you're supposed to ask a person at the company to review things if you don't like the automatic price.

    I plan on continuing my personal policy of switching providers every few years anyways. I'd rather have the new customer prices than deal with a person on the phone going through every option to see if the new price is actually better or worse than the competitors offers.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I had the csr angrily explain that in order to get the same affect, all I had to do was ask for a reevaluation of my policy

    "If it's hurting your customer retention, it sounds like you stupid fucks need a reevaluation of your pricing policy"

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    As a fellow bureaucrat, I absolutely understood his frustration. Why go through the entire process of switching insurance, risking missed coverage days, and other bs, when you could just call and have a person look at the generated evaluation numbers to fix things? He wasn't mad at me; just had his professional bride bruised when he found out that I was getting the same effect as the official process by doing (in his eyes) even more work than a simple call would be.

    I actually love finding these things in my job. Whenever someone does something that looks really silly on the surface, but as soon as you look into it from a user persective you find out it's just as good (or better) than the official process you originally expected. It's always trippy finding them because you have to turn your brain around to understand why they did it. And you always wanna keep it in your back pocket if you ever end up in a similar situation.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    it's your car now, not the bank's. so you can reduce your coverage and lower your premiums. the higher rates are to make sure the insurance company doesn't lower their profits when you drop the 'full' coverage.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah. Between this and the “switch providers” advice I will be looking at it. I am not sure I want to reduce my coverage though. Where I live people are absolutely batshit. I know everyone says this…but I’ve never felt more in danger driving than I do in Connecticut, surrounded by people rich enough to murder me with their car and think of it as an inconvenience.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, it's crazy what people do with insurance. We have a really odd car insurance plan. We just have a single mid-2000s Carola as our only vehicle. So we don't bother with full coverage. If the car gets totaled, oh well, we're out a few thousand. But what we do go all out in is the liability policy. I'm not worried about the 20 year old Toyota. I'm worried about losing our life savings if I cause an accident and end up putting someone in a wheelchair for life. So we buy the largest liability coverage we can, and then we have a million dollar umbrella policy on top of that.

    To me this seems the only sane way to do it. Not only do I want to make sure I'm not financially destroyed if I cause a big accident, but also, just from basic compassion, I want to make sure that anyone I might hurt is well taken care of.

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