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[–] 86 points 1 month ago* (26 children)

Haha yeah they don't need state funding we just need to monetize every aspect of their existence. Sell! Sell! Sell! Think of the advetising potential! Education could be for profit really. Think of the investment opportunities! Education just needs shareholders!

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 1 month ago* (25 children)

    They've (* the republicans) already given our public funding to the private schools, this is a way to get around that.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (24 children)

    Or we (* the people) could rise up and take back the power instead of thinking of ways to work inside their shitty system

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  • [+] [S] -11 points 1 month ago (23 children)

    Another one coming in hot. What exactly are the steps you think americans should take? Go step by step and fill in the blank. You can add steps if necessary.

    Step 1:________________________

    Step 2:________________________

    Step 3:________________________

    Step 4: We have back our country, yaaaaay!

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Step 1: Get involved in local politics

    Step 2: Show up in force and drag your neighbors along

    Step 3: Don't let up.

    And yes, I'm doing all these myself while people sit online bitching

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  • [+] [S] -17 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    And yes, I’m doing all these myself while people I also sit online bitching

    That is going on. I know you're frustrated, but you're doing the very thing you're complaining about.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Oh yes, because I never have free time where I just want to scroll memes and end up seeing idiots trying to push Republican propaganda (like that people could fix things if they just hustled). Critical thinking failure.

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  • [+] [S, M] -24 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    You're starting to sound like a troll. This is a warning before I give you a time out.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

    Step 1: organize a vanguard party of committed revolutionaries (many sub-steps)

    Step 2: agitate within institutions that control key infrastructure and the military

    Step 3: use the vanguard party to build a dual power political apparatus

    Step 4: await a significant enough economic crisis that you can take advantage of low military morale (or open disloyalty) and public disgust/disillusionment with the actions of all ruling parties to show (through action not rhetoric!) the working class that your party is the only party willing and capable of meeting their needs.

    Step 5: depose the current ruling class of their power and try them for their numerous crimes.

    Step 6: congrats, working people have control of the state

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    Step 5: depose the current ruling class of their power and try them for their numerous crimes.

    Could you expand on that? That sounds like a gloss over step that gets a fuck ton of people killed and won't work anyway.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

    It is a gloss over step tbh but yes people die. Revolutions are not a tea party. It doesn't have to be a lot though. The Bolsheviks barely had to kill anyone to achieve state power. Granted they threatened the provisional government with shelling but after the first few shells they capitulated. Most of the seizure of power comes before officially "taking" the state by controlling or subverting its institutions. You first deprive the state of its power before you point the guns at its officials.

    They won't relent unless you at least point the guns at them to be clear. The provisional government in Russia famously held on to an utterly hopeless situation for "historical posterity". They wanted to at least look like they held out to the last.

    Proletarian revolutions don't have to be, and often aren't, the chaotic violence in the streets that people imagine. Through a strong vanguard party the violence of revolution can be directed and restrained.

    This isn't to say people aren't going to die. Unfortunately the dying usually comes in the counter-revolution/civil-war that follows. These are messy things and I personally don't think anyone "wants" revolution. Revolution is something people do because their current circumstances have become utterly intolerable and all other avenues have been tried. The vanguard party does exist to creat revolution it exists to steer it away from the common ruin of all contending classes. Violence is nevertheless, an inevitable outcome.

    Edit: right, as for trying them for their crimes. Yeah some of the war-criminals deserve to die. They are responsible for mass murder.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 1 month ago (9 children)
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    Don't see how that's relevant

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 1 month ago (7 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

    I engaged with 0 out of 4 steps in this proposed cycle. Whatever narrative you have built in your head does not describe me or this situation.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    then why won't you say what country you're from?

    • Why hasn't russia risen up? Their dictator is pretty bad and right now would be the time when he's weak.
    • Why hasn't china risen up? They have a huge population that could.
    • etc. etc. etc.
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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    The people of China are materially quite comfortable and their lives are improving every decade. They do not have a reason to revolt. Their circumstances are not so terrible that revolution is necessary to improve them. Most people in China are genuinely quite happy with their state. You couldn't have picked a worse example.

    I don't know or care about Russia enough to speak on it. I personally wouldn't judge their domestic situation based on what western sources say about it. News agencies necessarily lie and distort the reality of the geopolitcal enemies of their respective nations. It is sufficient to say that revolution has not been attempted in Russia because the circumstances for workers aren't dire enough. Revolutions don't happen because governments are "undemocratic" they happen because people are starving and dying with no hope for change. This is a general statement you can use for most countries.*

    If you genuinely believe that conditions within these countries are sufficient for revolution it is because you have a deeply uncritical reading of your news outlets. Choosing these countries specifically expresses the inherent atlanticist bias within your worldview.

    * In some places violent repression of worker's organization is sufficient to prevent revolt for a time despite the deprevation of the working class.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm keeping this for posterity, lol:

    The people of China are materially quite comfortable and their lives are improving every decade. They do not have a reason to revolt. Their circumstances are not so terrible that revolution is necessary to improve them. Most people in China are genuinely quite happy with their state. You couldn’t have picked a worse example.

    I don’t know or care about Russia enough to speak on it. I personally wouldn’t judge their domestic situation based on what western sources say about it. News agencies necessarily lie and distort the reality of the geopolitcal enemies of their respective nations. It is sufficient to say that revolution has not happened in Russia because the circumstances for workers aren’t dire enough. This is a general statement you can use for most countries.

    If you genuinely believe that conditions within these countries are sufficient for revolution it is because you have a deeply uncritical reading of your news outlets. Choosing these countries specifically expresses the inherent atlanticist bias within your worldview.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    America actually being trolled:

    • They elect fascists to power with the help of foreign agents
    • They do fucking nothing about it
    • They accuse people pointing out the hypocrisy of freedomland of being foreign agents
    • They keep getting more divided and will only "resist" through memes

    Repeat

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  • [–] 51 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    As a European, reading "parent pick-up line" is so weird.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Or even simpler: they could sell the kids. They have plenty of them anyway.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    School pickup line in Alabama

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    This looks so weird to a NZer. So the cars are all showing up to the school's front entrance, one at a time?

    My kids just walk down the road and round the corner so I don't really encounter much traffic. It'd be a bit silly to pick them up right in front of the school...

    (ofc, most kids just walk or bus home - I unfortunately live further away so don't really have that option)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I think its done this way these days out of a concern for child safety. Especially with elementary age kids, the school needs to know who is picking up the kid. (You often have to have a thing with your kids name and grade hanging from your rearview mirror) They don't want to be responsible for strangers, or an estranged relative kidnapping a child.

    They are also concerned about the kids walking through parking lots or the pickup line and getting hit by a car.

    Those things happened enough times, and school districts got sued enough times that we end up with what you see above.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    I don't think we're even supposed to drive our kids to school in Japan but Okinawa, where I live, is a bit of an exception. Even then my kid's schools are trying to get the idiot parents to stop parking in front of the school to not cause congestion to drop off their little shit-flakes. This looks like an insane waste of space, time, and fuel.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    For real, is they had one of those guys they have at football games walking up and down the line of cars with a tray of snacks, they would make a killing.

    In the morning I think people are too much in a rush, but it's always congested so maybe.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Reminds me there's a local ice cream truck that is always outside the TK dismissal gate. They make bank, and if I didn't suspect they had a kid at the school I'd be a little upset. I mean it is predatory, but I'm not about to report a mom and pop ice cream truck, lol.

    But yeah, where is the truck for parents? I gotta get all my goodies from the hole in the wall donut place (they have great homemade egg sandwiches, still only $6, up from $4 but still a good deal!)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    My son used to go to the YMCA camp after school. It was on the school grounds. An ice cream truck would come and park outside the gate and the counselor's would let a few kids at a time go to the truck.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago* (9 children)

    Parent pick-up line

    First of all wild that that's a thing at all. Why not school buses?

    But secondly, weird name. It's not like it's parents being picked up, nor is it just parents doing the picking up. Unless the pick-uppers are split into different relationship queues? Is there a sibling pick-up line and a grandparent pick-up line running parallel to the parent pick-up line?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    This isn't like putting a couple of 10 year olds on a commuter bus.

    Schools will put 3 highschoolers in a tiny row together without an AC in peak 3pm heat and toss them around streets with heavily outdated seatbelts nobody wears. I've had to sit with half a buttcheek on the seat and hold on for dear life many times.
    When there is an AC it might drip water on top of you. Not to mention I've seen like 3 fights, one of which I was sitting next to the dude by chance.
    I also had a time where they heavily underestimated how many busses they needed and every row was 3 kids to a seat and I had to stand in the isle for an HOUR until they could get a second bus. They wouldn't let us off and people on the bus had work they were scheduled to be at.

    This isn't a like commuter bus, it's a prison bus packed with sweaty teenagers. This is why nobody in the US wants to use busses, because the only experience they've had with them has been AWFUL

    edit: this turned into more of a personal vent of my school rather than a thought through response to your comment 😅

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    This is why nobody in the US wants to use busses, because the only experience they’ve had with them has been AWFUL

    I've been on buses in various countries in various continents.

    Buses are OK.. to trash. London Underground is the Public transport GOAT. Even if it's too fucking sweaty and jam packed.

    NB : I have not had the pleasure of riding Japanese public transport.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    The flip side of this is when everyone is like "the USA could never rely on public transit, it's too big" ignoring that yellow schoolbuses go almost fuckin everywhere in this country, including to some crazy rural places

    Also, wild, when I was a kid they just didn't have seatbelts at all lol. Minor, useless improvements ftw?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    School buses in most areas have distance restrictions on where kids can be picked up. If you live outside those areas, you have to find some other way to get to school.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Our local schools also have a proximity limitation. Within that range, you don't get a bus. Walk, bike, or get a ride. (Unsure what that is, as my children are still several years away from public school, as daycare doesn't run a bus)

    With the US's current "kids walking alone is endangerment" climate, realistically that means all those kids get dropped off by car.

    Having grown up rural, buses tend to shine. I had a 20 minute bus ride to and from town as it collected all the scattered children over there. Route changed yearly to accommodate new or leaving kids.

    School ran a small fleet of buses covering the whole district. Routine (within a 5 min window over the years) pickup and dropoff times, the same drivers for years, more or less the same roads.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    Idk, I live in one of those “progressive hellscape / nanny state” places they’re always on about … every kid is guaranteed access to school provided by the county / state.

    Some students are in a walk” jurisdiction, they can only cross a single road with a crosswalk or are outside of it and MUST be offered transportation to school.

    There is no “you’re too far away”, kids walk even in elementary school, and busses are provided for everyone else.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Our PTO has done this, but from a timing perspective it was a logistics nightmare.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago*

    Appropriately so, several of the public schools in Portland have their own shaved ice, popsicle, and/or savory snack carts for events. (ie. OG hotdog type push-cart) All proceeds go directly to that school & its students. 🥰

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Nobody is bothered about the fund raising part?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Cheap child labour makes it go $$$$

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Good idea on the surface, but complicated in practice.

    • where is the labor/money coming from to sell those coffee? I don't know about you guys buy I rarely see people vote for a raise in taxes for any reason, especially in education.

    • teachers do not want parents to be there longer than necessary, parents are the number one reason why teachers leave their career behind. More parent to teacher contact, rather than just restricting to just emails, is a terrible idea

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    This directly leads to schools "not having buses for clubs and exams" btw.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Hey sexy mama, wanna kill all humans? (A parent pick up line)

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