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[–] 105 points 1 month ago

But hey lets celebrate the fact that RPi Holdings managed to secure a large stock of memory chips at pre-inflation prices before the AI craze quadrupled those prices, and that they're TOTALLY not ripping off their buyers right now!

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  • [–] 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yeah, don’t buy an overpriced Raspberry Pi; instead, you should buy a more reasonably priced…oh.

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  • [–] 94 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It costs 50% more than it did at launch... if you can get one at MSRP, which you can't, because they are immediately hoarded by scalpers and resold at exorbitant prices the moment an authorized reseller gets any stock.

    Meanwhile their business customers can buy direct in bulk at a discount.

    Raspberry Pi hasn't been for consumers since before COVID.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I haven't been able to find a Pi Zero W anyfuckingwhere and it's really annoying because I have a dedicated task I want to set one up for but I don't want to use my Pi4 for it because I have other plans for that.

    I'd also like to get a Pi5 for the PCIe connectivity but fuck they're expensive these days...

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago
    1. make it impossible to replace board components or solder new RAM
    2. increase prices
    3. profit to boost your 2025 $21 Mio net income even higher
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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago* (16 children)

    So...any good alternative? Specifically for hosting. Rpi has been very expensive in my country since the start as here we don't have any dealer, so price will always be 60% to 100% more expensive than MSRP. I don't mind chinese brand, there should be a shit tons of chinese brand.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Keep an eye out for any thin clients that can't support Win11 that businesses are getting rid of. You might have some luck with them.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Decommissioned USFF business PCs if you want something that can handle a lot and a bit larger is OK.

    In that size I'd say OrangePi or Radxa, but depends in your use case for which.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    For a little bit more than a fully fledged Orange/Radxa (and considerably under the price of a 16GB RasPi) you can buy e.g. the Morefine M6 - the size of an iPhone, works off of 12V USB-PD, 3-4W idle, 8-10W under heavy load, and with the newer N200 CPU you even get video codec goodies (perfect for e.g. running 3-4 fully local CCTV cameras with local face/object detection, which the Pi would struggle with).

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

    There are a few popular options, but i haven tried them personally yet:

    • Orange pi
    • Banana pi
    • Odroid (coworker is a big fan of these)
    • Rock64 (i think this ones very old)
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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    OrangePi support is terrible. Maybe it's better with the 5, but the 4 I've struggled with getting a library to work with the GPIO pins, documentation on the NPU is limited, and I can't get it to recognize a standard serial camera.

    It's possible I'm just trying to do weird things, but it's a much worse experience than I've ever had with a raspberry pi and I regret not spending more to just get the pi. I've lost probably 10+ hours just trying to deal with some things I'd consider basic, and had to create weird workarounds that hurt performance in other areas.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    I just checked and at least the Orange Pi ones are maybe 50% up in price.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Just shared my experience on the post you replied to, but basically the support/documentation for the orangepi isn't great and has cost me a lot of time and forced me to use workarounds to get some things working (GPIO, NPU, cameras, etc.)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I had a similar experience getting my Orange Pi 5 Pro to just allow me access to I2C (though once you figure it out, it's a lot easier to also get stuff like GPIO, SPI and so on to work).

    In fact that's the general problem with the chinese SBCs compared to the Raspberry Pi devices - their support software, documentation and general support out there on the Internet from other users is a much weaker, at least in English - to get that stuff to work I actually on my Orange Pi I actually had to get an Ubuntu for Rockchip and then figure out how to manually add a device tree overlay with the required devices enabled whilst I believe the Raspberry Pi just has a utility that does it for you.

    HOWEVER, the user who had asked for advice higher in this thread only seems to care about hosting, for which you just need "normal" Linux functionality not the embedded side of things, in which case those things work just fine even with just ARMbian - as far as I can tell all those manufactures do make available a Linux distro for their devices which supports the built-in peripherals (most relevant for hosting, wi-fi and when present ethernet) and does the normal things a desktop Linux does. That said, they quickly stop pushing out updates to it, which might be a problem.

    This is why I mentioned Orange Pi and in another response suggested general Chinese SBCs - if all you need if run-of-the-mill Linux server functionality in a cheap platform, those probably suffice.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Glad to hear I'm not the only person who has had some difficulties. And yeah, you are right that it should be fine for hosting services, which is why I mentioned my specific use cases.

    However, I think calling out lack of support is always a good thing as you never know what support you may need down the road. I definitely have run into some issues due to their supported OS I'm running and its surprisingly out of date for a board that only released a couple years ago.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    Just get a used low power computer off ebay

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    A Teensy is like 50 dollars now.

    The Aristocrats Capitalists!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

    And that is…?

    Edit: apparently, the cost had jumped from $55-$78. Still, at least $100 less than what it cost in 2016 when I was in school for an RPi 2. I’m having a huge amount of trouble finding scaler comparisons between RPi and standard server set up.

    Genuinely asking: for the Rpi fans out there, what’s it actually capable of nowadays? Can I run a Plex server off of a single RPi?

    I am looking to replace a 2011 iMac (i7-2600) as my Plex server,, I’d like to know if a modern RPi could handle the load.

    Advice, please?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Get a usff thinkcentre, like the m910 tiny. Insanely simple, upgradeable (nvme + 2.5", 2 sodimm slots), lots of usb and other connectics, supports 3 screens if you need that, low power, super small and can be found for cheap.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    Yeah, I saw an eighth generation i5 OptiPlex SFF that I thought was kind of tasty. Refurbished for under $500. I was just wondering if a modern RPi could actually handle the load. I used a few in school about 10 years ago, but I’ve heard they’ve become really far in that time.

    BTW, I put in a request for quote on a refurbished ThinkCentre. I’ll let you know what they tell me. Here’s the link to the machine.

    https://www.pcliquidations.com/p27443-lenovo-thinkcentre-m91-usff

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The ones I use are like this even my daily driver is a 6500T like that (m910q) where I do programming and stuff.

    Good luck!

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  • what’s it actually capable of nowadays?

    I've got a Borg Backup server running on a Pi 2. I'm starting to play with Home Assistant on a Pi 4.

    That Pi 4 has had a few lives so far. It served as a rather mediocre desktop running Ubuntu MATE for awhile. At the time I found RPi's "Pixel" desktop to be pretty unlivable, almost everything they'd done to LXDE to make Pixel was an exercise in breaking LXDE. MATE was reasonably functional. Building a Ryzen 3600 machine was of course a vast improvement.

    I then transitioned that Pi 4 to an HTPC running OSMC (basically Debian Kodi). I had a couple of problems with it: 1. to put audio out the built-in audio jack, you had to edit some config file to enable the option in the menu. Because this is Linux, a Linux developer can't make his microdick hard enough to penetrate the layer of crust sealing the anus of his pinhole punctured blow-up doll if he ships a GUI that's good enough. 2. That entry in that config file kept either undoing itself, or what the system was looking for changed. I swear I'd put that line in, it would work for awhile, something would happen, and then I'd have to go in and change the line that's still in there to some other syntax to get it working again. 3. Driving a 4k60 display was another problem that kept unsolving itself. Sometimes it could do it through one HDMI port but not the other, oh no wait it's max 4k30, oh wait it can do 1080p60 though, oh but it's still driving the monitor at 4k30 in such a way that trying to play back 1080p60 gets out of sync with the audio, pauses for several seconds, then resumes. If you've got a 720p television and you intend to use its internal speakers maybe it'll work.

    Seems to run Home Assistant okay though the SD card is probably doomed.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    the device is now fully worthless ignore it and tell them to fuk off.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago
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    [–] 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    The most economical option for small computing is no longer a raspberry pi. It hasn't been for a while. Now it is an mini PC. You can get x86 performance for the same price.

    The raspberry pi still serves a purpose with it's GPIO pins. If you need to make something physical then you may still find it useful. Otherwise, look elsewhere.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The gpio pins always made it a bit of a weird middle ground between a used NUC-type and an arduino and all the years since the pi1 have just shrunken the possible use cases for it as mini pcs have gotten cheaper and arduino-likes have gotten more powerful.

    Imagine RISCV-berry pi tho that would be sex.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Not really though, given there's tons of cheap MCUs with the same or even more GPIOs available, and a USB/Wifi/Bluetooth connection away from doing the exact same thing as a Pi does. Could even whip up a linuxgpio driver that talks to your ESP32 fw and makes the same devfs gpiochipN endpoint available...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I bought a 8GB Pi 5 CanaKit from BestBuy 8 months ago for $180 (plus tax). That same kit is now $320. 78% price increase.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I bought a 8gb rpi 5 for 82€. Lucky me.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I bought a 1GB Pi 5 to try out as a kodi box. It is not sufficient.

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    And I make $0/hour? How am I gonna afford it? kLaRnA, wheeerreee are you

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