me reading dune at 13: "they got rid of the computers? that seems drastic"
me at 45+: "yep i get it. wise man, that frank herbert"
me reading dune at 13: "they got rid of the computers? that seems drastic"
me at 45+: "yep i get it. wise man, that frank herbert"
To be fair, Star Trek is pushing the idea of utopian society. Prime directive. Evolved past money. Spending time people and resources on exploration. To seek out new life, not to exploit or destroy it. Tech in those hands is going to be far different than the same tech in our society’s hands.
I had loved the idea of a computer that was always listening and ready to go with helpful facts and analysis, until idiot tech bros showed me how it would really get done in modern society. :(
That's probably my biggest complaint about all this AI and smart tech. We literally have the tech to make what people want but it's being made for shareholders instead of people.
There was a point where genai could run on a moderately powerful home computer and could reasonably be expected to explain basic things and summarize texts. I had a small model that added conversational personality to my Home Assistant installation.
Universally connected tech is an amazing idea! I want my car to be able to send me a message explaining why it isn't running at peak performance. I want my laundry to remind me to change it or my Roomba to schedule its cleaning for when I'm out of the house.
The issue comes from all these things being built to benefit the company instead. Amazon pretends that Alexa is here to help you out and instead uses her to target advertising to your kids and sell every mention of a product to aggregate data collectors.
We could be living in a 1940's house of the future that tells the cops to come back with a warrant and helps protect you from the ai apocalypse because it refuses updates that would harm its family but instead we get to be trapped in permanent market research testing because these filthy rick fuckwits can't seem to figure out that we can't buy their products if the take all the money.
We have the food to feed the entire world but it's more profitable to let people starve.
The entire world's fucked.
Not just food, but everything. Pharmacies dispose of unbought meds that people can't afford, the clothing that exists today could clothe the world for a generation and more will be made tomorrow. A suburb the size of America could fit every single human in an individual house and have room for the next 20 generations while leaving the world untouched. There is more copper and aluminum in most landfills than there are in most mines. The suffering is the point, without it we lose all interest in the development.
Her at 60: wow i can't wait till we have computers again so my 8 year old grandson doesn't have to go to navigator school and consume so much spice that he no longer resembles a human being, has to live inside of a tank filled with spice gas, and evolve beyond the ability to enjoy mundane pleasures like hugs from grandma.
I don't want the computers destroyed. I want the corpos destroyed who have made computers feel like an invasion.
Billionaires: we will make real fictional things, like palantirs, metaverses, and squid game Me: we will make real fictional things, like butlerian jihad
It's the near apocalypse in between Star Trek and Dune that's the problem.
Oh the myriad options of cyberpunk dystopia?
Wew...
Cyberpunk dystopia came before the Star Trek utopia. Earth was recovering from that period of time when humans discovered warp travel. Warp travel is, of course, heavily dependent on computers. In Star Trek Discovery, AI is abandoned because it almost ended life, but you can see the slow creep back towards that path in TNG then Picard. Go forward far beyond the end of Discovery and you imagine a time when humans go to war with and subsequently ban intelligent machines.
I love how Dune and Asimov's Robot/Foundation series both have intelligent machines as a "yeah, that happened, and it really sucked".
It’s one of the big contradictions of Star Trek… they somehow achieved utopian society while running everything on fucking touch screens.
I dislike modern computers so much that I can’t even enjoy the old ones anymore.
In Star Trek they still needed a global reset in the form of a nuclear war.
Second post with the same topic 😂 lemmy keeps sending doomerism my way! So enjoy it.
I'm sorry but her surname literally means Graveyard
Wow. Im going to die one day and all these problems and miserable fucks wont be mine to deal with.
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