I hope you're happy, Burntwits and everyone else who demanded it.

Anyways that cup was made following Burntwits French press guide; measured 33 g of ground, about 528 g of water. Though, I did make a slight modification to the original instructions, which was to boil the water first. The guide didn't say to do that, just add the water in, figured it might be better boiled though.

Then I added hella milk and sugar. Oh, yeah, switched to milk and sugar instead of creamer, mostly because the good creamer with ingredient list size like 5 are hells expensive. It... came out really good actually. I feel like better than my evil machine, though I don't know if that's because of the ratios of sugar and milk or not. I feel like I poured about the same amount of milk and sugar though. Hm.

Either way this saves way more counter space in exchange for slightly longer and more care needed, but if the coffee is consistently better, and less space needed... hm. I think yall might've been on to something. Also I can't tell if the press machine is made of glass or a really clear really thick plastic.

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[–] 33 points 1 month ago (14 children)

One of us (French press people).

I'm not a coffee fanatic, it's just the simplest (read: laziest) way to make decent coffee without replacement filters.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    No, the simplest way to make coffee without replacement filters is the vietnamese phin filter. I retired my french press for one of these. a single cup filter costs less than $20 and makes a highly concentrated shot of coffee.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Always made a brew that was too bitter for me. I understand why they went the Cuban route and add sweetened condensed milk.

    For pour over I use a V60 style holder with a reusable fine mesh filter. Seems to work just fine.

    That said, when I know I'll want more than one cup or I'm brewing for a group, French press is the way to go (for me). And as someone else pointed out, it can do cold brew when that's the vibe.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I wish I could drink that stuff. Sadly, I don’t have the stomach for it. IDK why but I’ve I’ve tried Vietnamese style coffee at multiple cafes and it almost always ends in a tummyache. I just live with using a tiny disposable filter for my Aeropress.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This was new to me and I had to look it up: https://cafely.com/blogs/info/vietnamese-coffee-phin-filter

    Is this in line with your experience? Unfortunately I won't be trying it in the near future, as my electric stove just blew up (well, being well-grounded thankfully avoided that, but there was a loud pop, sparks, and a large scorch mark on the wall behind it), so I need to sort that, first.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Yeah those things rock. Lots of Vietnamese restaurants use them. Very simple, rock solid coffee, no filters required. Easier to clean than a french press and less likely to break. I do think they give a bit of a metallic flavor, but that suits the robusta beans they're primarily used with

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    As a coffee fanatic, I will say that adding filters to the FP really takes it up a notch and it's the best of both worlds - you get a better tasting cleaner brew and from a laziness standpoint the cleanup is a breeze. Look for Caffi filters. Work in just about any FP.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Unfiltered coffee is also high in cholesterol, a simple paper filter catches most of that.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I'm all for lazy methods, sometimes you just want the caffeine.

    My extra lazy method is to use one of those metal refillable k-cup pods for my first cup. Not as good as a press, but it does only take like 30 seconds.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    apparently its prudent to use a filter for the press now, since the cafestol in the coffee can raise your cholesterol/ldl.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    The guide didn't say to do that, just add the water in, figured it might be better boiled though.

    The difference between french press and cold brew 😁

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Did you try it without cream and sugar? You don't need good coffee or fancy tools to.have something good tasting if you have, use, cream and sugar.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Right?!

    Why is your coffee khaki colored? Who hurt you?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Word. Insert Pulp Fiction rant.

    I get it, adding so much at a restaurant, but at home... Get better coffee.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    True! I've been using instant coffee, choczero sweetener, and some almond milk for tasty hot or iced coffee. The coffee by itself isnt great, but it turns into a decent ~$0.50 ~30 Calorie drink with a bit of caffeine.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    I tried Hoffmanns's technique for a french press recently and it was a much cleaner result, recommend trying it if you've not before:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st571DYYTR8

    Leave it for four mins, stir the crust, remove anything left on the surface, let sit for another five. Don't plunge but do use the filter to sift as you pour. Pretty simple. I do think a filter paper is worth using due to the cholesterol also.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (6 children)

    due to the cholesterol also.

    Can you explain what you mean here?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    That paper just compares different roasts though, not filtered versus unfiltered?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    You're absolutely right!
    I remembered having read about the effect of drinking coffee on cholesterol and picked the completely wrong study.
    This one sheds more light on the topic (and makes clear that paper filtered coffee is better than unfiltered for people who have to watch their cholesterol level):
    Coffee consumption as a double-edged sword for serum lipid profile: findings from NHANES 2005–2020

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Thanks for that.

    Seems like we get headlines that contradict each other all the time and no wonder:

    existing research remains controversial. Although some studies have suggested that coffee consumption may raise triglyceride (TG) levels, others have reported the opposite. A meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials reported a significant increase in TG with coffee consumption, whereas observational data from the UK Biobank showed an inverse association

    The results are also not what one might expect:

    In females, HDL-C increased with intake up to 2.6 cups/day and declined thereafter, forming an inverted U-shaped pattern. In males, TG followed a similar trend, peaking at 3.0 cups/day.

    So either drink as little coffee as you can OR drink over 3 cups a day!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I'm the lucky person that drinks around 1 litre coffee per day, which is in terms of the study >3 cups.

    Funny enough the study calculates

    1 cup = 283.5 g

    I'd call that mug instead of cup to make clear it's not really a cup.
    Although it's quite close to a US cup (236,588 ml) and even closer to the cup sizes leaning on the metric system (250 ml). That is assuming coffee is close to 1 g per ml, which should be a valid assumption.

    Still an odd number for a cup...
    ...studies!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I'd heard that filter paper really makes a difference and that seems to be the case:

    https://nutritionfacts.org/blog/paper-filtered-coffee-and-cholesterol/

    Not to say filtered removes all cholesterol:

    perhaps paper coffee filters only achieve partial cafestol removal

    So I guess it pays to know what you're drinking:

    after a month of drinking two cups a day, their LDL cholesterol increased significantly, even though the coffee was paper-filtered. So, if you have high cholesterol despite eating a healthy diet, you may want to try cutting out coffee and then getting retested. Or, you can try switching to a lower cafestol coffee

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Also I can't tell if the press machine is made of glass or a really clear really thick plastic.

    It will tell you one day when you least expect it by leaping off the counter and smashing.

    French press is a great method.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I had a French press, loved it. But when it broke I bought an Aeropress Travel edition for $50 and I've had it 4 years now. Goes on long drives and camping trips. Bought a Jackery battery for my CPAP that's strong enough to run a small kettle, and now I can make a cup while checking out a view.

    Coupled it with a Timemore S3 for quick, easy and quiet grinds.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I have a bare bones french press like you, and it's really not hard. I've got my grinder dialed in to the correct grind size and amount, so I just grind fresh beans, boil water, wait 3 minutes for it to cool enough (you don't want to pour water that was just boiling), pour it over the coffee, come back 3 minutes later, stir the crust, wait 2 more minutes and plunge. No grit, coffee comes out great with low bitterness and acidity.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    now you can make teas too. i love matcha in my french press. fresh herbs, the world is your oyster.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Hey, glad to see you tried my recipe! And I’m glad you enjoyed it, too. If you have any other questions about it I’d be happy to answer them.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    French press is really nice. I like using them to make cold brew. Just put in grounds, fill it with room temp water, and stick it in the fridge for at least 8 hours (preferably overnight)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Love a good French press. It's my go-to wintertime coffee when I want a bold cup and deep flavor and minimal effort 😅

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Okay, now do pour over

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Today I used the French press as a carafe for instant freeze dry coffee.

    I know I have committed coffee sins, I just do not have a way to manage grounds or use my grinder.

    As soon as my espresso machine is available I will atone.

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  • It looks like a Bodum, so it's borosilicate glass.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Nice! We use inverted aeropress, mostly because cleaning a french press sounded really annoying without running water, but now that we have easier access to water maybe we should get a press.

    Also yeah, boiling the water is 100% the way to go (electric kettles rock for that, by the way, but you absolutely don't need one it's just super convenient). I bet they forgot to mention to boil the water in the guide, heh. Steeping it in room temp water would take ages and then you get cold brew at the end, which is also good but it's its own thing!

    -- Frost

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    French press, burr grinder, good whole beans and it's the best coffee black or not. I hate cleaning it though so I usually settle for a moka pot.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Just an FYI for folks: drinking unfiltered coffee, as in anything that doesn't go through a paper filter, can raise your LDL cholesterol 10%.

    I switched to AeroPress which is the best of both worlds. Cleaning is a lot easier too since you just pop a puck of coffee grounds out.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I did add a filter around the mesh when I pressed, it was in the guide I followed. Though, there was some coffee at the bottom I couldn't pour out, so I removed it to get to it. Unsure if it had passed through the filter and just wasn't pouring out or if it didn't and was just trapped at the bottom.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I never thought to do that with a filter! Yea it's always hard getting the grounds out of a French press. I would leave a little coffee in the bottom, swirl it around then quickly dump it.

    I love the AeroPress though. There are some newer copies out there I'd like to try, but I've already been using mine for years.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I mostly use my french press for cold brew. Rough grind some beans and leave it overnight in the fridge.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

    im considering get a french press soon, but it will have to be a metal one, because i dont like glass potentially breaking. usually its borosilicate glass, but i heard alot of them tend to break easily, because of the thinness of the glass.

    looks like i need to look for a paper filter for a generic french press brand. or buy a brand name french press(not popular.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Oh yeah. The glass ones look nice, but they break allll the time. But I gotta wonder if the flavor of metal will effect the coffee. Having the coffee brew while mostly only contacting glass (no metal/plastic) is IMO part of what makes french press coffee good. There ought to be one that has a glass liner with a protective metal outer shell. I have no idea if this is actually a product because I lost faith in the french press for other reasons and went back to pourovers

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    i dont think so unless the metal is somehow releasing ions, which makes a cheap press. i found out that you should use a filter for a french press because of the cafestol, making cholesterol/ldl raise in your blood. i think its mostly because glass is cheaper than a metal one? has anyone noticed the difference?

    the only concern for the french press, and moka? other than glass is that it doesnt filter the cafestol from the coffee, so you have to get a specific paper filter for it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    SO broke her relatively new glass one just trying to clean it. She's got a metal one now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    ? although i think unlike PYREX glass, which is super thick borosilicate, is just super thin in a french press(cheaped out on making it thicker). also tell us which metal one you plan to get? im getting one that a paper filter will fit, im seeing several options.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Borosilicate glass of reasonable quality should be virtually immune to stress from heating/cooling cycles, even uneven temperature gradients which is what normally kills glass.

    Borosilicate is what's used for all laboratory glassware. Temperatures can swing wildly, but it's virtually never a problem. In return, it's more brittle against mechanical stress. Don't drop it.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Why would you go through all of that and then mess it up by adding sugar?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    How dare people enjoy something VERY commonly enjoyed by billions that you feel like you need to pass judgement on to feel superior?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Dude, it's just my opinion, take a chill pill. I just think it's weird that you would get decent beans, grind them, brew it with a french press and then hide all of the flavour by adding sugar to it.

    The only reason you and "billions" think adding sugar is necessary is because you're used to it. Seriously, drink coffee without sigsr for a week and then try it with sugar again. You'll see what I mean.

    Something being common does not imply that it's good. That's a logical fallacy.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I drink it how I want, like you should drink it how you want and they should drink it how they want. Which is the point. Take a chill pills yourself on telling others they're wrong. That's my only objection to you. I drink it always creamy, but sweet or not depending on what else I'm having. Let people do what they want without calling them wrong.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago*

    Well, adding sugar to coffee is quite literally worse for your health, and you end up covering the taste of the actuall coffee you say you like to drink. So yeah, if you lile to do that, more power to you. It is kinda weird tho. At that point you'd be better off just making instant or capsule coffee. The flavour would not be that different.

    I do "let" them do what they want. However, if you don't want people's opinion, why would you post it on the internet?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Coffee and sugar are perfect together what do you mean.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    If you want to not actually drink something that tastes like coffee, sure.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Can you even see where you're walking?

    A little sugar / splash of milk in coffee is still coffee. It tastes like coffee, maybe not how you like it but to say its not coffee flavor is wild.

    Btw, unless you're buying primo shit all the time, black coffee tastes like shit. You may have convinced yourself that you like shit, but objectively its not a good tasting beverage.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    My coffee is about 10-14usd per 250gr. Not sure if that's what you call "primo shit" but it certainly is fresh and incredibly tasty specialty coffee. And yes, it's the only thing I buy. If I thought it tasted like "shit", I would drink something else instead of adding sugar to it. The latter does not seem like a very logical decision tbh.

    Btw, a "little" sugar is not a unit of measurement. Your "little" could be "a lot" for someone else.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    I had it in the fincas where they grow it in Panama, in the way the Panamanian farmers drink it. First, you take a big pot and fill it with water from the local stream. Then you throw in the beans, whole, and with the occasional cascara. You heat that pot up over an open campfire for a good long time until it’s steaming. Then, you dowse that out with as much sugar as you have on hand, until it’s nearly cloying.

    And then you drink it with a smile on your face, damnit, because you need the calories, because you need the pick me up, and because some poor bloke who has poured his blood and sweat into those beans just offered it to you.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago

    I wouldn't serve French Press to my worst enemy!

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Apparently it creates a lot of carcinogens. Pour over tastes better and is almost as easy. Chemex is my go to

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    I don't understand what's confusing. The lack of filtration is a health issue. Sorry?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    How the hell is a coffee filter blocking carcinogens, and what carcinogens?

    Dropping that without context is the same vibe as saying people who consumed dihydrogen monoxide all die.

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