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[–] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ah, a good start. Next time implement some sort of PR. Maybe reversing the Tories' change to FPTP for the Mayoral elections before the next general election too.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Good news! Reversing the mayoral and PC changes were just in the news last week! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/10/ministers-propose-voting-changes-for-mayoral-elections-in-devolution-bill

    Seeing as they are following in the footsteps of the Welsh voting reforms with this news, I would hope that if all goes well then they will follow with the PR changes too. Although looking polling at how Labour are expected to fare in the Sennedd, maybe they will consider it not in their interests.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    If we're talking electoral and political reforms I have suggestion(s), please feel free to discuss in the thread below.

    1. Change from electing a single MP to a team of two. One remains in the constituency holding regular surgerys for constituents to attend that are open from 2pm to 8pm so working people can still book appointments. The other goes to Westminster. Have them rotate so each person spends half their time in Westminster and half in the constituency.

    2. A federated civic social network. Twitter naturally gravitating to being the "online townhall" was a disaster even before musk bought it. What is needed is each region to have a civic social network that are federated at the country level because expecting a private company to regulate what is allowed in public speech in an online public space will lead to conflicts of interest. This would allow communities to organise events, have a digital notice board, give news updates from local authorities, and have digital town halls where everyone behaves in a civil manner as sign-up requires registration with government ID and use of full government name.

    It wouldn't be a blog platform like twitter but governments need to invest in cyberspaces or they'll all be run by corporations that gives them unreasonable amounts of power to control discussions.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Do people actually see this as a good thing?

    For me it's just messing with the edges of a broken system.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    From 16 a British person can bear much of the responsibility of an adult (with some caveats) but receives none of the political rights in return. That's always seemed incongruous to me, that someone can say, start a family, but have no say over their future.

    It certainly seems much bigger change than messing with the edges, I don't think any extension of the franchise could be seen as minor.

    It think it's an important step in the right direction, but yes we do need to go a lot further in other ways also.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Don't let perfection get in the way of progress.

    We know the system is broken, but the people with the power to fix it have no interest in fixing it. At least they're improving it in some way, makes a change from the usual "and then it got worse".

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's an odd issue for me. I'm not against it, but the number of politically aware 16yos I've met would be close to zero. That said, I don't think it really gets better by 18, so I have no good argument either way.

    It just doesn't strike me as anything but an attempt to gerrymander along demographic lines and so I view it with cynicism.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I would say I’m wiser now at twice the age, but I and most of my class at school had fairly reasonable political views from my recollection; maybe a bit naive and simplistic in a few cases, and a little bit of groupthink going on, and at least one die hard communist (though I imagine he still is, so I doubt that affects much either way).

    16yo is old enough to do pretty much all the other big decisions of an adult, so why not voting, they’re not really treated like children anymore by our society.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    How many 16 year olds have you met? The volume of politically aware adults I've met over the decades is genuinely disgusting...

    I was the politically aware 16 year old thinking the war on terror and invasion of Iraq was the natural progression of western corporate imperialism.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I see it as 16 year olds are the most easiest to manipulate on social media, and that this does not bode well for progressive politics.

    At the same time, what's the actual peak age of "can't be manipulated on social media", and as blacknight says below - if they can work and die for our country at that age, they might as well be allowed to vote

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