My head tells me Linux Mint
my heart says listen to your head
My head tells me Linux Mint
My head tells me Linux Mint
my heart says listen to your head
My head tells me Linux Mint
There is a good reason Mint is recommended as the no nonsense beginner distro. For someone more technical and willing to learn I might recommend Fedora.
One you get past those two distros you are pretty much in the realm where someone should be technical enough to choose their own distro and know what that means.
Hannah Montana Linux, obviously.
At my work, I convinced my boss to let us use Linux on a couple machines and, you guessed it: Mint. Everyone pretty much knows where to find things and itβs stable as a rock.
Linux Mint is by far the smoothest experience I've had so far in trying Nobara, Debian, Manjaro otherwise.
What is the persons skill level and are both of you OK with you picking up the slack?
She's a pretty proficient windows user who mentioned looking at kbuntu. She can probably handle some rough edges on her own, but I have no interest in long term support. So probably mint π€£
Whichever one you wind up with, Dolphin as a file manager blows the monstrosity that windows has out of the water. For someone who's eeked out some power/efficiency out of windows usage it should be very pleasant finding out the standard software available for Linux these can almost always make you more efficient with less effort.
I use kubuntu. It's a good choice for people who don't have experience but are able and willing to search for answers.
KDE defaults are solid and utilizes a lot of Windows muscle memory, and being based on Ubuntu means that it's really easy to search for answers on virtually any question you might have. Plus widespread package support
I was going to recommend a kubuntu lts, maybe help install flatpak support
Bazzite for young people, Mint for old people would be my first thought
Mint, without question. A polished, conservative, stable experience with Ubuntu's broad compatibility baked in, and a familiar desktop experience. Few other distributions can deliver that. I'm very technical myself, but past the age of wanting to tinker with every little thing; I jist want an OS that is stable and gets out of my way to let me get things done - and Mint delivers.
I'd put LMDE on it, the familiarity of Mint with the stability of Debian and no fucking snaps.
Whenever this question comes up, I think the distro is less important than the desktop environment. If they feel more comfortable in Windows, go with something that provides KDE. If Mac, go with Gnome. Once they get used to it, let them go through the rite of passage that is distro hopping.
That said, and I know everyone recommends Mint or Ubuntu, and they're fine, but you could do better. I like the immutable distros for people who just want to use their computer without thinking about it. They aren't able to mess with anything important that keeps the computer running, and as long as they restart the computer, it's always up to date. It's like a Chromebook, which is the level most people are with computers.
especially for new converts (or those that do not know what an OS is).. the curated store of applications makes it very easy to push people away from microsoft.
I would definitely choose Linux Mint 100% :p
I started off with it and its learning curve wasn't too steep. It uses Calamares for installation, features a built-in app store, and is very familiar to those coming from Windows.
Mint has been my go-to, except for a couple of people who ended up with pop!_os.. mostly cause I showed them some options and that's the one they thought looked cool lol
What are this options? I just switched to mint yesterday. I had a spare hard drive and a 12 year old computer not being used. The 120gb ssd is lightning fast compared to the old 1tb HD and it turned this old broken uselessness into a slick new machine. But I'm almost a complete newbie at Linux so mint/cinnamon it is.
A lot of them are debian/ubuntu based ones. Mint, zorin; pop!_os used to be in the list as well, but less so now, since COSMIC is kinda under baked (even if I myself am a big fan).. then for people who know what a computer is I also usually throw in some non-debian distros like fedora/nobara, and for people I actively trust to be capable of using a computer (which is mostly my friends who work in IT/computing or related fields) and who run bleeding edge hardware they also sometimes had ones like cachy or endevour thrown in.. the bleeding edge hardware feels less relevant now tho, with no one being able to afford a computer :p
Anywho, mint is fine, there's no reason to not stick to it
I'd say mint is great for non tech people (90% of the time it's the DE and GUI apps that are important rather than the distro, but mint has good ones by default). For former windows power users I'd recommend CachyOS or Fedora. Either way, you can boot from USB for any of these as a live demo; I have images for all 3 + memtest on my ventoy USB.
Converted my non-tech wife to Mint without a single hiccup after her laptop crapped out - intuitive af for lifelong windows users - my kids will have never known another OS outside of their school issued chromebooks as theyβre only just experiencing desktop environments
Does Mint have screensaver and locking issues with Cinnamon?
I install Mint on computers of people that don't want Windows and that I have to help, but I personally use Debian and MATE. Recently I tried to use Cinnamon on Debian but the screensaver was not always working. Sometimes I was away for days and when I was coming back, my monitor was still on. And sometimes the screensaver got stuck, impossible to remove without restarting my session.
I have a friend that tried Mint too, and he basically told me the same thibg was happening to him.
I have not heard about this from other folks to whom I installed Mint, but since they're all very basic users that turn off their computer every time they are done, it never came up.
It would be my only issue with Mint for beginners. If they leave their computer running and come back later, there's a slight chance that the screensaver will either not be started, or very difficult to exit.
What the crap? Surely this canβt be a widespread issue?
I don't want to spam multiple links with examples, but you can look this up on your favourite search engine to find multiple current problems with Cinnamon's screensaver. It seems pretty common and that's why I'm asking.
Here's a link that's from a month ago listing all the possible causes.
I believe this is an X issue, not a Mint issue. Most other distros have switched to Wayland, but Mint will use X until Wayland is mature enough.
Not strictly a Mint issue, but it's still sotfware from them.
The development of Cinnamon began by the Linux Mint team following the April 2011 release of GNOME 3...
https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon-screensaver/issues/93
If this was the issue you're talking about.
My mom won't update Mint despite me showing her how, so I switched it to CachyOS since I'd be the one updating it anyway. At least it's not nearly as annoying for me to work on.
Depends what their level of technical comfort is. A friend of mine just got switched over to Kubuntu because it was Windows flavored enough for him to make the jump. He's more comfortable with tech but wasn't a Linux daily driver prior to that though.
For others, yeah, Mint is probably what I'd aim for. It kinda depends on the target demographic.
I put Mint on my brotherβs laptop when his hard drive died, heβs not a techie sort of person at all and has had no complaints.
Are you committing to having her Linux setup to do everything her windows can do? Mint would be good at that point.
Likely either mint or popos
They tend to be the most liked by newcomers. Enough so that they don't miss windows, or want to try something else a week later.
Depends on the user. An older family member, Linux mint. A gamer, cachyOS. Otherwise fedora could also be an option. But in most cases, the person would choose and install a distro themselves if they are interested and that means that mint becomes the most common answer to the question.
I installed Aurora cause immutable and auto update so hard to break anything. And normal user only need Browser, LibreOffice and maybe Thunderbird
I think this what I came up with last time I considered this question, and I also wonder if I might want to use it for my next machine myself. Do you have a lot of experience using it? Do you feel like it performs pretty well? (I just have concerns that everything being containerized with flatpak and docker might affect that...)
Something immutable and auto updating, likely Fedora based because that's what I use.
I've been installing Fedora Silverblue on family member's computers. No complaints so far. They're all non-technical users.
Initially I went with Ubuntu for my father in law, but he wouldnt stop messing with it and breaking things. So, last time it broke I installed arch with gnome, and now he doesnt know how to break it. Its been solid for over 2 years now on his 2010 macbook pro.
If like most people they only really need a browser, Linux Mint. If they're more of a power user, let them try a few DEs (Gnome, KDE, Cinnamon, Cosmic, XFCE) and choose a distro based on which they prefer.
Debian. I want that thing to be so stable they forget they ever had problems.
Basic Debian
Yes, it is a bit behind the curve but it is solid, it works and can provide a solid environment for the average run of the mill user.
CachyOS, as it's the one I'm using.
By installing it for them, I can only expect I'll be also called upon to support it. Thus choosing the one I'm most familiar with right now.
if it helps, as a lifetime Windows user I installed Linux Mint on an old laptop a few weeks ago, and used it for a week while travelling, and it went well :D It's just different enough from Windows to have a bit of a learning curve, but nothing too scary.
Ideally it would be a laptop/distro pairing that is officially supported by the laptop vendor. For better or worse, I think most often the distro is Ubuntu or Red Hat.
Iβve never used for-fee subscription distros like Ubuntu Pro or RHE, but if someone had the money to burn and a viable use case, I wouldnβt stop them.
CachyOS with KDE, it works well rounded and has easy to use apps to maid arch super easy and if you need help thereβs a convenient discord server filled with helpers, itβs well documented, and we use it so if they need help it would be easier to guide them through things. Heavy recommend. Plus if they donβt like pacman they can always get the flatpak store
A Fedora variant of some sort since they are up-to-date in terms of features and have a low learning curve
Fedora Atomic.
Updates are stable.
They can't fuck it up.
Respectfully huge disagree. Standard Fedora would be better (and is my personal recommendation) since a bunch of administrative command syntax would be different with Atomic. The internet's going to show troubleshooting advice for the former 9 times out of 10.
You just described exactly why I would install an Atomic distribution.
So they can't run something they don't understand, and end up nuking their install.
The biggest differences in usage (dnf vs rpm-ostree) essentially function as a knowledge/intelligence filter to prevent fuckups.
Everything I value is against "how long it will work without issue", "how quick is an update", and finally "how much effort do I need to help maintain it".
Atomic systems have netted me positives on all my values. The people I know who used atomic, have only approached me due to edge cases such as specific laptop fan issues, which weren't hindered by the atomic system.
They're both terrible choices for a beginner - constant version churn every six months confuses newcomers, some initial brokenness after every new release - Fedora would be the last distro I'd install.
What would you suggest instead? Those initial roadbumps with major releases shouldn't happen at all really, but I don't personally see bi-annual version updates as a confusing thing since major companies are commonly shipping yearly version updates now.
Mint. They can stay on the same release for 5 years, if they desire, or upgrade every 2 if they want. Binary-only drivers are easily integrated, it has a polished experience, integrated backups, and anyone that has used Windows can navigate Cinnamon relatively easily.
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