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[–] 52 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Yet they were denied access again. Too bad there aren't any punishments for ignoring the judicial system.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    There are if the judge has the balls to do it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I guess it depends on how you interpret the “official acts” SCOTUS ruling. Was him barring journalists an official act? If so, he can’t be prosecuted for defying the courts. The SCOTUS truly created a dictator with that ruling.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Deputize someone as a marshal and have them arrested for contempt of court.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    like a us marshal? could existing marshals just go do it?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Narrator: He didn’t.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    First question. As a Nazi pedo dictator why do you hate free speech?

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  • [+] -19 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    Obama did this with Helen Thomas and no fucks were given.

    They're all lap dogs to propaganda.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I honestly think your downvotes are because you didn't explain how these two things are connected. I also just glanced through the Wikipedia article and like...based.

    During the speech, Thomas said: "Congress, the White House, Hollywood and Wall Street are owned by Zionists. No question, in my opinion."[78][81] Thomas defended her comments on December 7, telling Scott Spears of Marion, Ohio radio station WMRN, "I just think that people should be enlightened as to who is in charge of the opinion in this country."

    And then like the ADL cancels her and it's all just kind of what we're doing now but 16 years ago before most of us USians knew that Israel was a genocidal fascist state.

    The next day, the Anti-Defamation League called for journalism schools and organizations to rescind any honors given to Thomas. The organization said that Thomas had "clearly, unequivocally revealed herself as a vulgar antisemite" in the speech.[83] Wayne State University in Detroit discontinued the Helen Thomas Spirit of Diversity in Media Award, which it had been granting for more than ten years, citing what it called her antisemitic remarks.[78] Thomas objected, saying that "the leaders of Wayne State University have made a mockery of the First Amendment and disgraced their understanding of its inherent freedom of speech and the press."[84] Asked by the Detroit Free Press how she would respond to people who say she is antisemitic, Thomas responded: 'I'd say I'm a Semite. What are you talking about?'"

    Unless there is something else in the controversy it seems like she spoke the truth about Israel 16 years ago and had her reputation drug through the mud for it. She spoke truth to power and it sure seems like the power tried to crush her for it.

    OC, you just gave a very "both sides" sounding example with 0 context for those not already in the know. Some of us are still learning or have brains with the retention of a sieve, provide context and you'll likely see a more positive response.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm going to preface this by saying I don't think she deserved to be cancelled over her comments. There is a huge difference between an organization and other entities pushing to cancel a journalist, and the president is the United States directly banning certain journalists. Both are bad, but one is significantly worse than the other.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I just read her wiki page. I don't understand how you can say "Obama did this" too. It seemed like everyone was cancelling her. Also, Obama didn't kick her out, she retired.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Just more disingenuous "both sides" bullshit.

    How can a person legitimately believe that these things are even close to the same thing? Either they simply haven't read (and comprehended) the OP article, or they're being purposely disingenuous.

    If Obama even suggested doing what Trump did here, Congress would have immediately brought articles of impeachment against him.

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  • [+] -17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    She was forced to retire. Saying Obama's administration had nothing to do with it seems a little naive, but whatever makes you feel better.

    She died three years later, and I can't help but think that was also related. The WH press pool was her life.

    All U.S. Presidents are scum, some just more than others.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    She died three years later, and I can’t help but think that was also related. The WH press pool was her life.

    Shocking that a 92 year old woman would just up and die like that.

    You wanna keep Mitch McConnell around too? He’s been in the senate so long; it would be a shame to make him quit.

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  • [+] -13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Wow. That's an obscene comparison. Why?

    Just say you didn't like the questions she was asking.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    It's not, their both old ass shit, it's a natural conclusion to make, especially when their not doing anything anymore.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    a pound of hamburger costs more than minimum wage under republican rule, gas is through the roof, food safety is gone, and our first amendment rights are impacted because the press is banned from asking questions

    not to mention the never ending war we’re in now the actual war crimes committed and how bad we look on the world stage

    but yeah, “Obama did this with Helen Thomas and no fucks we’re given”

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago

    I think it's worth mentioning, especially for why she was kicked out and why Trump won, the Democrats support for a genocidal occupation.

    We should all say her name. We should all strive to be more like her.

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    [–] 20 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Was it all a ruse to build demand for state media? Or was the admin simply too incompetent to forsee this outcome?

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 1 month ago

    I would strongly bet on incompetence, I think Trump just threw a dumbass narcissistic temper tantrum and lashed out at these organizations because he's a cornered rat and he knows it and his lawyers just had to scramble to put the best presentation on it they could, which got laughed out of court because they're a bunch of idiots trying to justify the actions of an even bigger idiot

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Hanlon's razor is an adage or rule of thumb that states, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    How is this a bad outcome for Trump? He's wasting a lot of resources for those news outlets that hang to fight this

    All they got was a 14 day access order, which the Trump admin did not even initially honor, costing the outlets even more time and resources

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 month ago

    Wasting his administration's own resources just as much as everyone else involved is, except he's wasting resources for a losing effort. Also I'm pretty sure like five different non-profit media advocacy organizations jumped in to represent these networks and did the heavy lifting for them, so really they just got free advertising out of this.

    All they got was a 14 day access order

    Which is almost certainly going to be extended within 14 days, so it's effectively a permanent access order

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    SO? He hasn't obeyed ANY laws or social norms his entire life. What makes anyone think he will this time?

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    [–] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I’m just going to hazard a guess that they didn’t create an entire streaming network in two days, and they’ve been planning the press lock out for a while.

    So since they are hoping to rake in the cash and nobody will enforce this injunction junction, nothing will happen and they’ll keep doing it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I’m just going to hazard a guess that they didn’t create an entire streaming network in two days, and they’ve been planning the press lock out for a while.

    That would have required planning and subterfuge.

    More likely: feelings got hurt, and a rich donor had a failed streaming platform that needed a rescue.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Saw an article yesterday where the viewership on trump TV was like 500 people.

    So, exactly as successful as any other trump venture.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Even at the peak, it was about 8.5k.

    And that's worldwide. So a good hundred or so of those would just be other press watching around the world, to report about it. Within 90 minutes, viewership fell by more than half.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Ha ha ha ha, he needs them more than they need him. I guess they still don't realize that yet, even after the sound fiasco.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Not just the sound, Trump TV is already failing.

    The Daily Beast reported that roughly 8,000 people watched at launch, with the count briefly reaching 8,500. Within 90 minutes, it had fallen by more than half. Fewer than 1,000 were watching early Tuesday, and the outlet observed the count dip below 500 at times on Wednesday.

    That's total viewers, worldwide. Including other press with it on for various reporting reasons.

    Those ratings are terrible at every stage. And considering how much Trump focuses on TV ratings... I'm sure there's ketchup all over every wall in the WH.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    "Not complying in some cases" is "not complying."

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    If they DONT Comply we're going to Send ANOTHER Strong Letter!

    -Judges who COMPLAIN people Don't listen to Them!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Here's hoping they continue to boycott the white house then.

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