President Donald Trump is lashing out at his own supporters as he tries to clamp down on criticism over his administration’s handling of much-hyped records in the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking investigation, which Trump now calls a “Hoax.”

“Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this “bull——,” hook, line, and sinker,” Trump wrote Wednesday on his Truth Social site, using an expletive in his post. “They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.”

“Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore! Thank you for your attention to this matter,” he went on.

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The zero master is at it again.

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  • [–] 239 points 1 year ago* (23 children)

    Man, it would be incredible if Epstein and Trump's inability to shut up about it is what brings this regime down.

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  • [–] 129 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Its a nice thought, but I worry about all the judges he appointed, and how long they last beyond his presidency.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If Luigi is found not guilty things could get wild.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Never happen. This is spoken like someone who has some glimmer of hope in the justice system and that it doesnt just bend to authority like everything else.

    Luigi is gone. The only thing that we can save is the memory of an idea. He is a future folk hero.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What kind of ammo you buying? Shit is not cheap.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Back when Trump put up his tower, Jackie Kennedy Onassis was famously fighting to preserve New York landmarks like Grand Central Station. Trump's own architect told him to leave the façade of the building alone, but Trump overruled him. Trump blew the perfect opportunity to get in good with elites because he was too greedy and arrogant.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellisicky/2020/10/03/how-donald-trump-took-down-bonwit-teller-a-fifth-avenue-landmark/

    Bonus- there's a guest apperance by John Barron!!

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    His buildings are just so ugly too, fr. You gotta try hard to be that ugly.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was living in New York when the Tower first went up. When I was in the area I decided to stroll in and see what the controversy was about. At street level it's just black glass. Inside it's all gold with a waterfall. I thought it looked like a big golden toilet.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Looking at the photographs, I'm not all that impressed by the building it replaced that people are complaining about not having the elements from preserved. It's got some Art Deco elements, but we're not talking the Chrysler Building here.

    EDIT: Here's a image of one of the two bas-relief sculptures, a much closer shot than the photograph in the article:

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Are you saying that the trump tower is better than that building? Also, they destroyed the experience of the interiors, not just the exterior ornamentation.

    Look at his ""jewel" in Manhattan, lol. I can't even say it's dated, because that had to be out of date when it was built. It's timelessly shitty.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/what-its-like-to-visit-trump-tower-2016-10#protests-dont-stop-with-finger-selfies-the-tower-has-been-the-site-of-a-number-of-political-demonstrations-from-both-pro-and-anti-trump-groups-4

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Chicago building is beautiful, if it didn’t have his fucking name in giant print it would be really cool looking.

    It has contextualism with offsets the height of nearby buildings

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    I think we have different taste in buildings. It's boring at best and kind of looks like it's giving you the middle finger from certain angles. https://www.architecture.org/online-resources/buildings-of-chicago/trump-tower

    Chicago has some gorgeous architecture and they won't let you do anything to their skyline to fuck it up. They are serious about it, so the context would have been forced on him. He doesn't get credit for that. Also, his architecture firm probably wouldn't let him fuck that up either. Again, Chicago and SOM, they're a proud, distinguished firm.

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  • [–] 118 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Dude is freaking out because he's finally being treated like any other politician, and his pathetic ego can't handle it.

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  • [–] 142 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    PLEASE let this be the beginning of the end. I've aged like 5 years in the last 6 months.

    Also for anyone seeing this comment, here is the testimony of Katie Johnson who claimed Trump raped her and other 13 year old girls multiple times. Fair warning: it goes into excruciating and brutal details:

    "Katie Johnson's full testimony of 2/11/16", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

    Please save and spread.

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Trump went on Howard Stern and boasted about barging into the dressing rooms at the Miss Teen USA pageant. He famously perved on his own daughter. This is nothing new

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It's nothing new to anyone not in the cult, but this could be the biggest chance of getting through to them. We need to get them to see the truth and use this tiny crack in their mental fortress to open it up: "well if he blatantly lied about this (based on all of this proof they've seen) what else has he been lying about?"

    I know that's probably naive and overly hopeful, but I'm still doing my part.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've been hoping for his people to see the light since 2015.

    They stuck with him when he admitted that Trump University was a scam...

    They stuck with him when Mexico didn't pay for the Wall...

    They stuck with him when a million people died of Covid...

    I hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

    I think this is the best way. I lean a bit more towards hope because he not only did the Epstein thing, but he's taking away people's medicaid and social security. He also is going after people they know aren't criminals or gang bangers, they're not some vague other.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You're basically asking cultists to turn against their cult leader.

    I can't recall too many times in history where that's ever happened. Sadly.

    This isn't a logic or reason thing with them, this is an identity thing.

    If they do that, they will lose their sense of identity, and that's something people who have few other things going for them are unlikely to do.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    We should make up some group that can absorb all the crazies from MAGA and give them a healthier outlet, like the equivalent of a methadone clinic.

    Maybe we can kill 2 birds with 1 stone and make this new outlet where they can place their identity push for economic reforms and equality, positioning the ultra elite as an evil cabal that rules the world. It just so happens that in this new conspiracy group that the conspiracy is mostly true.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    let this be the beginning of the end

    Fascism doesn't voluntarily give up power. There's no way that scandal brings down the regime. They didn't install tech bros as officers in the military because they intend to respect the will of the electorate.

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  • [–] 92 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So without a doubt 100% confirmed as legitimate

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  • [–] 89 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Reminds me of this pic I saved from Lemmy recently

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  • [–] 77 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This is interesting... In the past when Trump has tried to push back on his followers he's followed the TACO principle. Like when he wanted to take credit for the COVID vaccines but his audience was anti-vax he quickly softened his language to "take it... if you want it tho. Maybe it's poison who knows?"

    He's never been a leader - he's just been an amalgamation of all of the racism and conspiracy theories his followers have. He says "yes" or "maybe" to everything. I think this is the first time he's really said "no" though?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He's organized crime looking to continue his break into fascist dictator. His sycophants he's surrounded himself with don't care and prefer that he's a rapist and a pedo to try to control him, but the people he conned into voting for him buy bumper stickers like this:

    silhouette logo of a person getting executed with a gun to the back of the head saying shoot your local pedophiles

    So what happens when the ranks push back on the orders? He'll exile them if he thinks he can get away with throwing them under the same bus as his lawyers, AG, VP, etc or capitulate. But in this case capitulate means he'll probably try to redact himself and his fluffers from the docs then share them and hope they're dumb enough to accept the redacted reports.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I think it's going to blow over eventually. Like half of the big social media people in his base have started accepting the narrative of its probably not as big as we thought and we need to Trust the leader.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I hope he's so anxious about this that he never has a restful sleep again for the rest of his miserable life. Fucking worst human alive in the 21st century so far

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Wait, wasn't your whole political philosophy built around ignorance and spineless loyalty? If you train them to fall for scams and conspiracies don't get shocked when they go for another conspiracy that you don't like.

    ...because I don’t want their support anymore!

    Damn, he's gone "full Hitler in the bunker". "Those damn traitors! They failed me!"

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    he’s gone “full Hitler in the bunker”

    There's just one more important step for that to be true ... and I don't mean poisoning his dog.

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    There is no war in Ba Sing Se, you hear me? THERE IS NO WAR IN BA SING SE

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Thinking about how low these folks usually go, I'm wondering why they haven't just worked up a fake hatchet job file selectively incriminating their enemies and exonerating themselves. It possibly wouldn't matter if it were called into question by evidence of tampering. Their devotees are indoctrinated enough to swallow almost anything -especially if it reinforced their biases against people they've already been trained to hate. What fallout are they afraid of in releasing a doctored list? I'd wager this will be the eventual outcome. A fake file that most know to be fake, but will mollify his base.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That’s generally what cult leaders do, they don’t bend to their followers, they beat them down as weak and fake believers until they fall back in line. And the ones who do get out immediately become the enemy and the devil in one.

    This is Jim Jones/David Koresh type shit

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    David koresh wasn't in jim jones weight class. He was a pedo manipulator but those kids are dead because of the ATF and that piece of shit Janet Reno.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Watch koresh berate his followers for doubting him though, that’s the same type of manipulation even if they weren’t the same. Currently that dude who runs Twin flames is doing all that abusive “how dare you question me, your god” bullshit.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh yes he was a manipulative bitch but he didn't poison them. At least he didn't give them actual poison.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    The more he reacts, the guiltier he looks. What a morone.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    Hmmm. Wonder how this will play out.

    He seems awfully angry about a hoax. Just saying

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    MAGAts are like children refusing to eat their veggies. They're going to resist with this whole Epstein thing until their Daddy looks at them sternly and tells them to fall in line....or else.

    It's performative noncompliance. At the end of the day, when the going gets tough, they'll show their support for a felon rapist (pedo?), because that's what they've always done, without fail.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Not everyone is just spewing talking points, there's a LOT of maga folks who actually do give a shit about this. This is his biggest betrayal by far.

    The #1 thing that unites (most of) the left and right is our shared hatred for the rich and powerful. Trump is outright saying he's breaking his promise specifically to protect the rich and powerful.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I’d like to believe something would snap them out of their slavish cult mentality, but I don’t yet.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    It will depend on the media. If the media makes this into something bigger than Watergate, that's what it will be. People usually aren't cognizant of how much their thoughts on things are shaped by the narrative our media tells.

    The media reporting alone creates this sort of assumption that something is important to everyone else. If you think all your fellow group members are feeling a certain way, you will try to feel that way. As that happens to enough people it creates a real trend in the herd with momentum.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    One of Trump's campaign promises was that he'd release the Epstein client list.

    So, Trump says it exists when it is convenient for him to say it exists, and then he says it doesn't exist when it is inconvenient for him to say it exists.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Is anyone actually turning on him because of this?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago*

    They voted for him in November despite him already being a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist, not to mention literal traitor for inciting an insurrection and illegally attempting to overturn an election by threatening the Georgia Secretary of State and taking part in the Fake Elector's Scheme.

    Being a child fucker is just another thing for them to throw on the pile of things they've chosen to memory-hole.

    They will ALWAYS support him NO MATTER WHAT. That's how cults work.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Nope.

    They are turning on his underlings, but I have not seen a single major influencer call Trump out directly. "It’s Bondi's fault," is the party line, which is unreal given how unflinchingly loyal she’s been.

    The headlines claiming Trumps supporters are turning on him feel like clickbait.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Alex Jones is claiming he's done with Trump.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    The pinned Tweet on Alex's Twitter page:

    https://xcancel.com/realalexjones

    Wednesday LIVE: Desperate Deep State/MSM Pushes “Epstein Hoax” & “MAGA Divorce” In Attempt To Fracture & Bring Down The Trump Administration! Tune In NOW For Latest Developments As Alex Jones Covers This & Other Key Issues!

    Be wary of Rawstory headlines, assuming that's the one you're talking about.

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    Thank you for your attention to this matter

    it kills me every time.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I’m guessing he has seen that enough on letters from companies and lawyers about his fuck ups and it makes him feel weak. So, he uses it when he wants someone else to feel weak.

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