A newly unveiled statue of the rightwing activist Charlie Kirk was vandalized at the Turning Point USA headquarters in Phoenix, Arizona.

The statue was found with red spray-paint. A nearby poster memorial in front of the statue was vandalized with red paint as well.

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[–] [S] 149 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Very sad, folks. Very sad. Just look at what they did the new brand new statue. The thing was only just unveiled! Goodness!

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    [–] 121 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    My gut says there's a 40% chance they did this themselves to try and gain sympathy. They thought Kirk would be their Horst Wessel, but public opinion never went their way. Less than a month in and they couldn't even get Jimmy Kimmel fired. A year in and everyone finds the Kirk widow off-putting. Thanks to Candice Owens, they're even reduce to arguing with own supporters about whether Erika Kirk and the Mossad had Charlie killed. I could see this being a last ditch effort to regain narrative control.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Idk if it were a false flag thing they probably would have spraypainted some dumb shit like "A TRANS ANTIFA DID THIS MUHAHAHA" or "IM SO GAY FOR CHARLIE" or something obvious like that, because they lack subtlety.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    candance ownes is pretty much who kept kirk's "legacy alive" since she was questioning the motive behind his assasination. "reporting on the billionaire backer associated with israel(since shes antisemetic she would report on this) was pressuring kirk to stop associating with TUCKER CARLSON. candace also dint like erika kirk.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I have been wondering if we would even be talking about Kirk if it weren't for Owens conspiracy theories.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    , she had some evidence(recorded phone conversations with charlie) that he was frustrated by his israeli billionaire backer pressuring him to stop hosting "nazis" on his podcasts, that they were doing this to him. she is apparently a very close friends of him, she doesnt like ERIKA kirk thats for sure.

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  • [–] 69 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    I don't cry for a man who called for the stoning of gays.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Instead, we can all laugh for the man who fought hard to change the world for others and got to experience that world for himself.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

    https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1800678317030564306

    I know, a twitter link. Throw it into yt-dlp.

    Also, the line that Kirk counters Ms Rachel with may have been a mistranslation and the original text may have said something more along the lines of "Man shall not lay with a boy the same as they lay with a woman", which is a very contentious idea among Christians. Whether that's because it means they're not being told to hate gay people or because they're being told to hate statutory rapists is up to you.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    It is not a mistranslation, it's very clearly talking about same-sex intercourse. The "mistranslation" angle is being invented out of whole cloth to retcon the Bible.

    I appreciate the Christians who are trying to be accepting of LGBTQ+, but IMO they should just acknowledge the Biblical authors were wrong about this instead of pretending they didn't say what they said.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    If it was just about same sex intercourse, they would have included a line about women lying with women. This was very likely more about not denigrating another man by forcing them into the role of a woman. Also, given this spent generations as oral tradition before being written down and translated several times, trying to say your particular personal interpretation is the only possible correct one is asinine at best.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The Bible has been translated and re-translated across basically every language on the planet, as well as appropriated for propaganda purposes over and over as well. To think that you can take a line at face value - especially in English - is naive. There have been at least 50 different cultures and societal revolutions between you and when that line was first written.

    For example, the King James version of the Bible is a propaganda piece commissioned by a monarch at a time when kings were quite literally losing their heads with the express purpose of including as many references to kings and monarchies as possible in order to foster positive sentiments in the peasants toward the "divine right of kings" or whatever.

    In early versions of the Bible, Lucifer was imprisoned in Tartarus alongside the Titans that Zeus put in there. I'm pretty sure Hell was added later during a medieval reformation or something. The Bible was definitely altered several times during the Medieval period. The line in question here I think had at least 3 variants during this time period. The one claimed to be about same-sex intercourse, a version potentially about not engaging in CSAM, and one that might be about not fucking somebody in another person's bed.

    King David, one of God's anointed, had something like 32 wives and a friend who "loved him in a way that no woman ever could."

    One of the people that Jesus heals is the slave of a Roman soldier. In the original Latin text, the word used is for a specific type of slave. A male slave commonly kept as a lover.

    And we could have a field day on Biblically accurate angels, "Be not afraid," and the Renaissance era redefining what an angel is.

    And then there's also the fact that the Bible was written by multiple different people across several hundred years, at least. The later parts of the New Testament were written by people who lived 300 years after the death of Christ and claimed to know him and what he wanted better than his apostles did. Some of whom who said that the Old Testament and original sin still counted despite the nullification of the Old Testament and the cleansing of original sin being one of the reasons that Christ supposedly sacrificed himself for.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    A) They can't acknowledge the Bible was wrong about anything. The whole point of their religion is that the Bible is God's words written down by man. Even when you know about the conclave that decided which of the hundreds of "biblical" stories were apocryphal and which were true, hundreds of years after the events of those stories supposedly happened, they will still say that God was guiding that conclave. Bringing up a bad translation also doesn't help, since King James was guided by God to create his translation. The Bible CANNOT be wrong (according to Christians), since it is the word of God.

    B) Historical context is important if you want to try interpreting God's words instead of taking them literally. Romans had a very different lifestyle and view of sex and the role of men and women. It could be that God's word was that the TYPE of male relationships the Romans had was not what God wanted, but just two dudes banging was fine.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    When I showed you evidence of the Iron River getting thousands of Mexicans killed under American-made guns, 30,000+ of them every year plus another 20,000+ if you count the depression, misery and poverty an environment like that causes, the cardiovascular and neurological diseases it causes on the poorest and most vulnerable, and how angry I was at that injustice, and the fact you have killed my family in the Middle East and Mexico, you kept gaslighting and then replied with this:

    Why should anyone give a MAGA like you raw data? You are a piece of shit who denies reality and ignores the deaths of minorities.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I think a paintball gun would be a better choice next time. They'll put up more cameras, another fence, etc. A gun would be faster and they could stand back a ways.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That paint is highly washable.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 month ago

    Remember that guy who spent $10k making a statue of Kirk? It's not even that statue they have outside lol. Some how two statues of this man!?

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  • [–] 79 points 1 month ago

    He was a social media influencer, not an activist. Everything he did was for attention or profit.

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  • [+] 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)
  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Counting or not counting gang vandalism?

    🤣 1
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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Pretty sure it was delivered like that. Nothing to see here.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 month ago

    He died doing what he loved, celebrating gun violence.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    His face is far too big on his head, doesn't even look like him.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago

    He wasn't a Nazi, He just said a bunch of egregious stuff that people who hate Nazis hate

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The pose they chose for him is throwing hats? Really?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    It's a communal art project. Everyone gets to participate.

    A distinct improvement if you ask me. I'm sort of an expert.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The irony that he is now immortlized as "brown".

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  • [–] 52 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    The most useful thing he ever did was die

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  • [–] 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Anyone can die

    But it takes a special kind of person to become the victim of gun violence while publicly defending gun violence.

    Absolute legend.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah, he really demonstrated the ills of gun violence.

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  • "I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

    "And, of course, our hearts go out to the victims in Kentucky for every one of these situations. But we cannot allow them to emotionally hijack the narrative."

    "You must use reason when you look at these things," Kirk added. "A free society comes with a cost, and that cost is worth it. Liberty is worth it."

    Kirk died doing what he really believed in: getting shot to protect our right to shoot him.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Hebe, the British were smarter. They put Margaret Thatcher on a rather high and hard to climb pedestal.

    Some people have resorted to play "Ding, Dong, the witch is dead" on full blast from their BT speakers in that park, though.

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    will there be one for erika having a wwe style celebration event?

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  • If turning point had any decency at all I would feel like this was inappropriate. And so I say, GOOD!

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    Love the neck paint

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)
  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    Memorializing the day someone finally convinced him to lean left.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    looks historically accurate

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    Maybe get a statue of Hitler and Mussolini as well, oh, dont forget Pol Pot and one of trump.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Lol, that's they funniest joke on this page.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    what do you know about chinese revolution and chinas history?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    That Mao was a Fuck up that got more of his own countrymen killed then he did during the Civil War for starters.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    not american, and also mao had little to do with any of china achievements, itd likely have achieve more if hed died off after the war but sadly he didnt.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Ok, my question still stands: If Mao fucked up so bad with its Great Forward Leap, which was done to catch up with countries like the US, and as you can see, it succeeded, China already surpassed America regardless of what your coping mechanism says; how is that a fuck up? Sure, the transition was costly and bloody, but so was America's foundation. It exterminated so many native cultures, Mao did not do that, and also, Xi is not a pedophile like Trump. Where is the fuck up, exactly?

    And that claim you made, it's so childish. It's a nothingburger. "If he died, Chinese would had achieved more." How? What makes you say that? You are Dr. Strange seeing all the possible outcomes or something?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    dude multi millions died, thats not a success, if i kill off half my nation, the rest would of course live better lives without the added stress of supporting those people. its triage rebranded as innovation.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago

    So did many natives in America just so you could end supporting a country ran by a pedophile. What? That one was noble? "They were too violent and backwards with their tech, they did them a favor by conquering them and killing them all"?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Mao's writings on epistemology (on practice, on contradiction, where do correct ideas come from, & on the correct handling of contradictions among the people) are incredible, and I think everyone should read them. Especially the first two!

    Those poor sparrows though 😔

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Hook a blood spurtting fountain to the neck.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I mean really, who saw that coming?

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