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[–] 2 points 1 week ago

This really is bad news! Unless you like the police state. Then it's fucking awesome!

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    [–] 33 points 2 months ago

    This is the same shit companies do with their "year in review" shit - a blatant attempt to glamorize and normalize their invasive surveillance, now running 24/7.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 months ago

    That sounds like shit; thanks Apple.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    Didn’t watch the presentation. Should I assume that anyone wearing an apple watch from now on is recording my audio without consent?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    I think it’s doing on-device summarization. No transcript is retained or sent off.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    This is the correct comment. But the one with the assumption is voted higher. Lemmy loving vibes more than facts, day 1,436.

    Yes, the audio is never stored, the summaries can be completely turned off, and yes, Apple again is caught inside its own bubble being ever more disconnected from the outside silicon valley life. They should not have touted this so strongly and loudly.

    People will these devices are being kidnapped daily and forced to open their devices. Even without the audio some of these transcripts can be used as evidence against them or their families, violating their 5th amendment rights.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    You don't have the facts either though. You are just assuming whatever Apple says is the truth.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Apple says stuff about Apple product. How is that not a fact?

    They said that. They have very little incentive to lie.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (7 children)

    They have the only incentive that matters to lie: Profit.

    If they would admit that the Data is send to Servers and or saved, there would be backlash hurting their bottom line.

    And they should record and save everything to collect and sell the Data, aiding their bottom line.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

    Man, I don’t know. Where I’m coming ‘Profit’ is the exact reason not to do this.

    You’re applying redneck town butcher level of business logic to the most successful corporation on the planet, constantly being probed by hackers.

    They are so married to this privacy stance that even the hint of that coming out would decimate their userbase.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    Most normal Data collection is already ignored

    Either willfully because it got normalized or not really willfully since "they wouldnt do it because what if it came Out?"

    Well... They do it. It is known. But since Apple always was pretty culty the members dont really care and everyone that cares doesnt use Apple, because they know they steal Data and dont believe the pinky promise they wouldnt sell it.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Look, I like that you’re a crititical thinker. Now read the disclaimer at the bottom:

    Privacy Exposure ratings and summaries are AI-generated assessments based on publicly available privacy policies

    That’s right, you quoted slop to a cult member!

    Health data is not stored, are you mad. That would violate every country’s privacy law other than the USA and China.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    AI has the info from somewhere.

    And again. They just do it. Not necessarily in the EU. But of course they try to do it on the very edge of legality.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    no one said apple doesn't collect any data at all. The fact that your article says apple collects some data relevant to their services, which people choose to use, does not mean they are listening to everything on your device's microphones.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Ah damn it. Forgot the cult stage of "it's okay that they collect it." That comes after "No they dont do it."

    And now we are at the "No they dont listen 24/7"

    And in about 5 years you are telling others that it is okay that they listen for 24/7.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago

    Ok, I’m hopping off here, but

    Manik Berry

    With a Master’s degree in journalism, Manik writes about big tech and has a keen eye for political-tech news. In his free time, he’s browsing the Kindle store for new stuff read. Manik also adores his motorcycle and is looking for new routes on weekends. He likes tea and cat memes. You can reach him at manik.berry@fossbytes.com

    This journalist tells you apple stores health data. Aside from that being very vague (your DOB could possibly be considered a “health data”), he provides no evidence or sources at all, like any decent internet journalist trying to grift of a blog to survive.

    The internet will always tell you you’re right, the question is: why would they and how could they benefit from that, when they stand so much to benefit from not doing it, let alone save themselves the hassle of dealing with that data.

    Anyway, another day on the internet arguing between two people who absolutely won’t see the other’s viewpoint. What it is to be human.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    It’s a clever idea, although obviously many consumers are nervous about a proliferation of always-listening devices. The feature will be opt-in and obviously, Apple will tout its stringent privacy-preserving implementation compared to the competition. Apple’s version will not actually store audio recordings, nor will it present a transcript of conversations.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    That’s what I’ll be assuming

    I wonder how this will be legally interpreted in states with two-party-consent recording laws

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Nothing changed in that regard. It doesn’t record audio, sound recognition runs on device. In the exact same way that all modern Apple devices (watches, phones, earbuds, …) can already listen for Hey Siri, and other brands listen for their wake words etc.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    No it wont, I won't buy it.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I want to hear the summary after just gooning all day

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I absolutely do not need this. Journaling is healthy. Take that up instead

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 months ago

    Exactly. People love convenience until it removes the only actual benefits of the thing it's replacing, but by then they're dependent on it.

    If it listens to things for you so you can look at them 10 seconds later when you realize you didn't hear, why should your brain even bother paying attention to ANYTHING in the moment? If it summarizes your day, how much less are you going to remember because you're just not forcing your brain to think about what you've done today?

    I know for a fact I've gotten much better at remembering things that happen throughout my day after I started taking a note every day with what I did. If I had something recording it all for me, I'd just become even more reliant on that thing to even remember what happened at all.

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  • [+] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The new Apple Watch will track your every move.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    If I can’t turn it off, I don’t want it.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You can turn it off. In fact it says right in the article that it’s off by default.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    People wearing glasses with thick rims will get sick of showing people that there's no camera and start buying new glasses.

    Apple Watch users will stop wearing their watches in public. And finally giving up wearing one altogether.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Oh no it won't.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    We're so cooked

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    [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    “You looked at your phone for about 12 hours”. Thanks Apple

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    That's interesting. I don't see how it can generate recaps of my day if I don't ever purchase it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    The panopticon just got retrofitted and I’m not seeing an appropriate reaction. How is Apple getting away with what Alphabet, Microsoft, and Meta already tried and is still getting backlash for??

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Also, is that what apple watches still look like? Eleven years and these visionless assholes can’t meaningfully evolve the industrial design of this fucking nag box?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Are you complaining about the hardware or the face?

    • Whats the point of changing the hardware? It’s a simple, shape, already comes in multiple sizes and has the number of buttons that fit.
    • Why complain about the face? Use a different one and now your Apple Watch has more design variety than a couple of dumb watches
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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    That they will harvest to learn how to build a better prison around us all. People who use this shit are traitors to the very notion of freedom, or personal rights at all. They give away prices of their liberty one EULA at a time. Same strategy Putin has used to inch his way to empire without provoking an outright war with any nation that is too dangerous. Heat the water slowly and the frog never notices.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    EU: "Brought enough for everyone?"

    Apple: "Forget I said anything."

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Privacy concerns aside, if you need generated summaries of your own day, I don't know if I can relate to you as a person because wtf are you not paying attention to anything anyone says to you?

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