¹ "ROWS" probably means database rows/records. Therefore I would assume one row = 1📍.
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This post has triggered my outrage!
...because this is totally normal database stuff. Like, where's the meat? My phone could handle 500 million rows of data. Is that supposed to be a lot?
I'm not exaggerating about the phone part: A modern smartphone can handle an SQLite DB with billions of records (aka "ROWS", LOL).
Isn´t Pinterest the site nobody visits anymore because it's overrun with AI slop? I think it's dead.
Hmm a nice contribution to Model Collapse
The only thing worth a damn is genuinely human-created content, but only because you can sell it to train AI which produces only negative value.
We are in dire need of a market correction.
Oh I agree, LLMs poisoning themselves on their own slop may help. However, the bubble should not pop yet - it needs to hurt a lot more, or people will never learn.
People who control content-sites like Pinterest don't need to wait for the bubble to pop. They should see their eyeball count dropping precipitously the more AI content they have, and the fewer eyeballs means the less value the site has. But capitalism has trouble seeing past the next quarter.
mode collapse being misnamed as model collapse due to poor communication by ANN researchershas to be one of the most ironically inspired examples of mode collapse
Your question assumes only one such site exists.
Pinterest is that way, but not exclusively.
I don't know... I've accidentally stumbled on Pinterest a couple of times in the last few years and it's been absolute garbage all the way down.
Nice to know that I was unknowingly contributing to AI training every time I saved an image I appreciated back in the 2010s, too. At least I put the wrong birth date on my account, I think.
I’m no longer surprised by this shit, but I’m never any less angry. Fuck these people.
Why would a row be more than one pin? That's not how computering works.
And yeah, when you give a company license to do whatever they want with your data, "whatever they want" includes AI.
I mean, fuck Pinterest, but this isn't news.
I think people see the word "row" is being interpreted as a horizontal line of content on a feed page because they don't know the computing definition of "data record"
And yeah, when you give a company license to do whatever they want with your data, “whatever they want” includes AI.
I think an important point is that with the decline of Pinterest's popularity, most of their data was probably acquired many years before genAI became mainstream. (Like I think I only used it around 2008-2010.) So most users probably never imagined their data could be used for training like this in the future.
In data analytics you sometimes see some weird datasets spanning across a whole lot of columns with what would be otherwise normalised in different records with relations instead.
Shit can be weird in data…
A row is just an entry in a database, I have no idea why you would assume each one represents 4-6. It's already bad enough, you don't need to misinform to make it appear worse, you'll only lose credibility.
If they were publicly available pins, and users agreed to the license that gave them permission to use their data, then they can do that.
I think the broader issue is people being acclimated to permissive licenses, and not having privacy as a default
So basically they’re admitting that they’re even breaking the copyright law? Man, there is just so much wrong with this. I knew Pinterest was bad, but I didn’t think it was that bad. Shame on Pinterest.
Hopefully it made the AI learn the difference between "it’s" and "its"
I guarantee you their license from inception has given them control and ownership of data you put on the platform in perpetuity
This is basically what everyone does and no one cares because it’s buried in a 50+ page tos/eula that changes every few months and apparently is binding if you simply click a button
The tv stuff is what everyone’s mad about right now but do you know how many photo kiosks and websites reserve the right to use the pictures you upload for printing? How many games and cell phone apps profile you? How many smart devices phone home with local WiFi ssds, usage patterns, etc?
Once they establish ownership they can exercise control pretty much however they want. Model training is just the new “this will be a cash cow somehow” fad and everyone with a massive dataset is looking to capitalize on it
We have let the advertising and data collection industry get completely out of control because the overwhelming majority of people are mindless consumers that don’t give a fuck
Haha reminds me of this South Park episode ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HumancentiPad
Pinterest's whole model is locking other people's content behind the walls of its own platform. It should've been illegal from the start.
could 1 mean row in the DB sense here which presumably would be 1:1 with Pins?
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