Though the issue is a bit more specific than just industrial farming in this case. Meat, dairy, etc. production is inherently really inefficient compared to eating plants because you have to do so much more farming for animal feed where most of the energy is lost

we show that plant-based replacements for each of the major animal categories in the United States (beef, pork, dairy, poultry, and eggs) can produce twofold to 20-fold more nutritionally similar food per unit cropland. Replacing all animal-based items with plant-based replacement diets can add enough food to feed 350 million additional people, more than the expected benefits of eliminating all supply chain food loss.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1713820115

What do you mean? The presidency has enormous power at this point, and when it comes to enforcing regulation the power is actually granted by Congress

All the president has to do is convince these few companies that they're actually in danger of operations being shut down, even temporarily. They will respond a lawsuit to block this if they think that would be the easier path, but there's any number of ways to bring them in line. They'd lose an enormous amount of money for every day they're shut down... If they believe cleaning up their operations is going to be the cheaper path, they'll make changes unbelievably fast

The presidency also has enormous soft power... If the president calls a company out publicly for food safety, the share price will drop, grocers will switch suppliers if they can, and it'll affect sales

It all hinges on reputation though... It might take following through on a threat to bring the rest in line, but once they see food safety as the cost of doing business with no cheaper option, they'll absolutely fall in line

I would argue that we didn’t elect the president to just set regulations, we elect the president to solve problems. Creating a regulation and not enforcing it properly doesn’t solve any problems.

Sorry, thanks for correcting me. I got too doomer and got lazy, but I should hold myself up to basic standards.

Yeah, Clorox produces these products, but the bleach itself is fine, it's just these two cleaners and only the ones sold in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.

Clorox is recalling about 6.3 million bottles of scented Mistolin Dilutable Cleaners and scented Lestoil Heavy Duty Multi-Purpose Cleaners over concerns the products may be contaminated with dangerous bacteria, including Pseudomonas aeruginosa, according to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission. The recall was announced Sept. 3 and covers products sold in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands at major retailers including Walmart, Sam’s Club and Costco.

Sure it's worse in the US, but that's not saying a lot. The meat, dairy, egg, etc. industries aren't that much rosier in Canada or anywhere in the world

There's still plenty of factory farming Canada, practices like Gestation Crates are still dominant at 70% of pig farms in Canada, there's an active ongoing lawsuit about Ontario's ag-gag laws at the Canadian Supreme court right now, etc.

In Canada, there is a set number of chickens.

and consistent quality

Kinda wild that most store-bought chicken doesn't taste good at all. At least it's not making us sick. 😄

I don't diss supply mgmt. Just personal taste opinion. I think supply mgmt is very important for us and its benefits are obvious.