cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/70869345

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[–] 26 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Once and for all, its pronounced "gif", let this end all the back and forth.

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  • [–] 70 points 2 months ago (33 children)

    Jraphics Interchange Format

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    joint pottographics interchange group

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Jay-fog is going to be my new

    That said it’s still gif (not jiff).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    MySQL would love this kind of recognition, instead it just gets turned into "My"SQL.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Technically the original JPEG container format is "JIF", throwing another wildcard into the mix.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG_File_Interchange_Format

    The base specifications for a JPEG container format are defined in Annex B of the JPEG standard, known as JPEG Interchange Format (JIF).

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (18 children)

    The pronunciation of an anagram's component words has no bearing on the anagram's pronunciation.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    I think that question is best posed to the Joint Photographic Experts Group, better known as "jay-fegg".

    (For the record, I'm in camp "G as in Graphic", but it's still true that an acronym's source words don't dictate the pronunciation.)

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Right, in cases where an acronym is pronounced as word it generally follows the normal convention of the letters that form the word. Which would STILL result in the same pronunciation as "g" in graphics or gun.

    Of course accepted convention and tradition can also matter. If a word is generally pronounced a certain way then that is how its pronounced. Which of course STILL gives us the soft G.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Right, in cases where an acronym is pronounced as word it generally follows the normal convention of the letters that form the word.

    Meanwhile, the GNU Project calls itself "guh-nu" and then chooses a gnu ("nu") as its mascot.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    They dont absolutely define it, but they certainly contribute. Assuming one or the other as sole definer seems silly.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Except they don't. The vast majority of acronyms have at least one letter that's pronounced differently than in the word it's representing. Any correlation is purely coincidental.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    So occasionally one letter doesnt fit with the rest... doesnt that mean that the rule is not absolute and my statement is correct? That often the originating phrase contributes and often it does not, and that neither is exclusive to the other?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    NASA and LASER would like a word.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    wait hang on... nasa works. laser is more iffy.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    If you're pronouncing NASA and Aeronautics the same way you're definitely saying one of them wrong.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    it's a very subtle difference, if you don't count the /Γ¦/ diphthong. i think i could get away with it.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Congratulations on proving it's pronounces /jiff/

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    Oh! My client doesn't animate it if I tap for full image, so I didn't realize it was a jif.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Every day we stray further from Jod.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    There exists .jif files and .gif files. That’s pretty much my entire argument on the subject. If you say β€œjif” I will assume you mean a .jif.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    That guns got Sandevistan?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Jesse Faden would manage it just fine.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    He loved nothing more than jivving jifts to his wife and family at Christmas.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (8 children)

    Afterward he would sip a gin and tonic while reading about giant giraffes. Absolutely gigantic. Ginormous even. It would always send him into a fit of raging laughter.

    Charging.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

    Not one of those has F or V as the third letter. Name an English word that starts "gif-" or "giv-" where the g is soft. I'll wait.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (5 children)

    I'd like you to point at the rule that's says G MUST be a hard consonant if F comes after I. You can just say you prefer it for arbitrary reasons instead of trying to justify it with nonsense, especially with 99% evidence for that claim would be different forms of the word "gift". :P

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (4 children)

    The point is that there is absolutely no precedent for a soft G in that situation. The question is "Would you say that it was pronounced "jif" if the creator hadn't said it was pronounced that way?", and you'd have to look at what already exists in English and conclude that, no, you wouldn't pronounce it that way.

    For comparison, look at the number of people who pronounce "gibs" with a hard g when it's derived from "giblets" which isn't. There's clearly some kind of rule being followed here, even if it hasn't been strictly codified anywhere.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    It could also be that the most commonly used reference point is gift. That doesn't make it a rule, that makes it a reasonable assumption and it would be just as reasonable if your reference point was giraffe. What I'm saying is the only people who are wrong are the people that insist that they are the only correct ones.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    I have to disagree with the idea that "giraffe" is equally reasonable as a reference. Yes, it has an F in it, but it's not exactly the third letter, is it?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm saying the presence of an f at all affecting the pronunciation of the g is laughably arbitrary as all the evidence for it has the same exact root word and isn't enough to make it a rule.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Oh no, what are you going to do? Send me to gaol?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    My coworker used "jif" the other day, and man... Did I just like immediately lose respect for her.

    I didn't even know I cared, and I didn't say anything... But like, wtf? Lol

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    How do you pronounce gibbet?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I don't animate with American brand peanutbutter.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

    Who the hell says "Jif?" Jif is a god damned penut butter.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (11 children)

    I say it that way. It comes from reading a article about the brand new graphics format with a included pronunciation., You write/invent it and you get to decide. Not a whole bunch of late comers who weren't even a gleam in their daddies eye when it was developed.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (10 children)

    I don't care if he invented it, he's saying it wrong.
    Only morons call it "Jif." That's stupid.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (9 children)

    Hahahahaha. Look in the mirror. How do you say Giraffe? lol.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Don't care.
    I am right and everyone else is wrong.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (7 children)

    Good for you ride it down in flames.

    Oh and that down vote wasn't me.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (6 children)

    I will die on this hill until the day I actually die.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (5 children)

    I get it. Lots of people die wrong.

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    Don't care if everyone on Earth pronounces it like "Jif." That just means everyone else on Earth is wrong.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    How about we stop policing the pronunciation and use of specific words as a way to feel like we have control over the lack of effective communication elsewhere in our lives?

    If it works to get the listener to know what you are talking about? Then what is the issue?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    My problem is that we already have a word jiff, meaning a short amount of time. The overlap in use is minimal, but why add ambiguity.

    And don't get me started on to, too, and two.

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