top 91 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[+] 56 points 2 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah what a fucking joke. The one and only feature they're selling (especially since they bailed on original content like 2 years after they started) is ad-free viewing. You need a price hike every 18 months to ensure the "don't show this guy ads" line in my profile config stays set to True? Fuck off.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, the biggest selling point for me, and pretty much the entire reason I do have premium, is that they pay the creators you watch way more than a regular view. I guess the alternative would be to sign up to their patreons for a dollar.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Funny you mention that. It occurred to me that the handful of things that would really make me sad to lose if I just bailed on YouTube were all things I could indeed support on Patreon. So now I'm doing that haha. I don't think my current Patreon load costs me anything more than I used to pay for Premium.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    They allegedly give 55% to he creators and pocket the rest... And this is AFTER paying creators fractions of a cent per view and shoving expensive ads down the huge majority of their visitors throats.

    They are a massively shitty company. The amount of money they steal from content creators is WILD.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Despite what their marketing says the service gets worse every time the price goes up. The word enshitification is overused and often misused but not where YouTube is concerned.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 108 points 2 months ago (36 children)

    I really wish PeerTube would take off, or any other alternative.

  • source
  • hideshow 36 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (18 children)

    I wish PeerTube worked. For a while I tried just leaving in running on the theory that it might help out, but it didn't seem to do anything. Not sure if I'm doing it wrong?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 18 child comments
  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I'm running a private, unfederated node; it works. I watch TILVIDS whenever I can find something on there.

    This is not an "if you build it, they will come" scenario,

    There's no monetization, so there are almost no content creators.

    Creators generally don't do it for free.

    Good creators rely on income from the videos to produce higher-quality videos

    Youtube: surfaces creators' videos pays creators hosts the videos handles CDN

    Peertube: The creator pays to host the video (largely against their ISP's wishes) There's no surfacing There's no payments If you're lucky peertube doesn't need CDN.

    Even if they go all patreon, they're still not getting that extra cash, surfacing, and free hosting that youtube does.

    We need some kind of FOSS Patreon and to have Peertube do some kind of partner/recommendation engine.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I'd rather money not be involved. There's plenty of people willing to release good content regardless. I'd actually say YouTubes monetization is what made it shitty

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    There’s plenty of people willing to release good content regardless.

    But there really aren't. They would be all over the free platforms that have existed for years. But Peertube is nearly bereft of quality content, there are maybe a dozen regular creators that make anything interesting enough to 50% of the population to watch.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I'm not shilling for LMG, but something like Floatplane would make sense. You pay per creator for their extra content and ad free viewing and the cut goes in favor to the creator. Of course Floatplane has to also make money. They're not in it to serve you ads or use your data to make money. If that took off I could easily see people paying 3-5 creators monthly to watch their videos ad free with extras on one platform.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Nebula has more and is cheaper. I had some interest in Floatplane. Last time I looked at it, Youtube was cheaper for my use case and them not listing creators up front is bad news.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Same, dude. The power users will assume everyone has the time to assemble/learn the skill of setting it up. That being said, it’s on my list of things to figure out one day!

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    yeah, one of the responses lower down made me realize why PeerTube is unlikely to be a success any time soon - it's not something the typical YouTube user has to deal with.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (8 children)

    What did you want it to do?

    Did you set up a node? Did you promote it & grow a user base? Federate?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I wanted it to not be dog slow, because every one I tried spent all its time buffering. I’m not really sure how the architecture of it works but it seemed to suggest some kind of p2p thing so thought that leaving the window open might seed it? But either it didn’t or just nobody was interested.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 7 child comments
  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    you are not seeding by just leaving the window open on any peertube page. you are only seeding the specific video you have opened, if you have opened one, and probably not the complete video just the last segments you still have cached. this p2p sharing is mostly for when a certain video gets popular, to help with peek load, and for live streams. if the video was buffering for a long time it's probably because the server did not have enough upload bandwidth, and no other viewer had the video segments.

    there is another load balancing system that peertube supports, they can clone videos fromneach other and help serving them: https://docs.joinpeertube.org/admin/following-instances#platforms-redundancy

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    don't know why you got downvoted, this is 100% truth

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [+] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    You can't really monetize PeerTube though, so you're never going to get full time creators there. Media distribution has always been a choke point. Always will be. Short of a non-profit foundation and a unionized creators guild joining forces to operate a decentralized subscription video platform, you're never going to have a real alternative. I mean... there's Nebula which is basically that, but who goes to Nebula, it's full of lefties and educators and theatre people.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    You can’t really monetize PeerTube

    Lots of channels have a link to their Patreon or a tip jar; lots do live reads.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    I'm with GreenBeard on this and was always saying that monetization is the biggest peertube problem. Patreon and such are not an ideal option, subscription is IMO. A subscription that would be distributed through authors fairly, but that's not an easy task I suppose.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Like I said, Nebula does it and it's pretty good. Hard to get on as a creator unless you have a proven follower base elsewhere though. They're still mainly using YouTube as a farm league.

    Might be interesting to see Nebula set up a fund for PeerTube creators and start using that as a farm league, but I don't know that they have the subscription revenue for that yet.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    So they, too, can enshittify your whole experience? Or are they somehow immune from capitalism??

    Ah, it’s federated. Makes sense.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    a certain instance can, but that won't affect the network as a whole that much. you hop over to another instance and done. the developers also could, but it's open source, it can be forked by dedicated server operators. It's also developed by a nonprofit, so there's not abig risk, and thry have a good track record.

  • source
  • parent
  • load more comments (1 reply)

    My days of not giving YouTube money have certainly come to a middle

  • source
  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    Smarttubenext on nvidia shield

    Revanced youtube on android phones

    Ublockorigin on browsers

    No more ads.

  • source
  • hideshow 12 child comments
  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    I've never had revanced last more than a week. Bad luck i suspect. Newpipe->greyjay->brave

    Three seperate active dev teams fighting off the bastards.

    I don't want to use brave, but it's never been down for me, so it's weapon of last resort.

    I am a bit worried that, with Google's upcoming changes, they'll be a walled garden within a year.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I Just run YouTube via my browser with adblock instead of trying to fiddle with an app. And i have another extension so videos doesn't stop playing when i turn off my screen.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)
  • [+] 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    This is a bit of an overstatement. Brave has competent software developers - they created their Rust-based content blocker, and kept it as open-source. It’s one of the most powerful blocking mechanisms, often working in places where even the rightfully praised uBlock Origin doesn’t (good examples are in YouTube itself last year when they’ve made a big attempt to stop adblocking by changing the underlying mechanism of how ads are being served in videos).

    They were perfectly capable of developing advanced software before AI coding agents were a thing. They’re skilled and delivering.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I sometimes feel bad for bypassing all this, then I see the in video sponsors they all have. So now I run Sponsorblock...

  • source
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    tbf, their sponsors don't know they're being skipped.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Keep paying guys, someones gotta do it. Thank you for your service. Keeps YouTube available for the rest of us who will never, ever pay a greedy, evil fucking company like Google.

  • source
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    The only way to stop price increase is unsubscribing, Google need to know it's a loss, not a win.

  • source
  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    It will never be enough. Line must go up.

  • source
  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago* (11 children)

    It wasn't really worth it before, now it's even less worth it?

    Revanced works perfectly fine on Android and on desktop I use an adblocker.

  • source
  • hideshow 11 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    So just downloaded revanced should i download all the patches or select through?

    Or just do some looking online and work it out from that for what i want?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You don't even need Revanced. Just use Firefox on both.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I like Revanced. I can listen to stuff even while the screen is locked and have sponsor block and other addons if I want. I think half the time I spend on my phone is watching Youtube and it's heaps better than Firefox with an adblocker on Android.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    We just had news about Bilibili going global, and their reaction is to increase prices even further?

  • source
  • Just gonna drop this off here:

    https://morphe.software/

  • source
  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    People pay for YouTube premium?!?!

  • source
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    For me it was debating what music service I wanted to pay for and I decided ad-free YouTube without having to get around anything was a fine bonus. And it was a decent trade to my brother and cousin when I was in their HBO and Netflix families. But I'm not going to say it's "great" or anything. In fact if they ever cut my brother or cousin from my family plan (we've moved around the U.S. since I first got it,) I'm dropping it.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I do for years and I think it's great value

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    I get the same thing for free, so it's actually a terrible value for you.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Holy shit $16 / mo?? Did I see that right?? Wow. Just last year my partner and I really considered getting premium cuz we have some YouTubers we've been watching for like a decade. But ultimately decided against it cuz it was like $8.99 / mo.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Dang, I keep forgetting that suckers still pay for this...

  • source
  • load more comments
    view more: next ›
    4 comments in c/technology@beehaw.org view that post