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[–] 157 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Dude my coworker keeps sending me AI astrophysics videos because we have arguments about "new discoveries" not being real. It's going to make people dumb as hell. Tbf he already is

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The easiest way to get out of an argument with me is to send me a YouTube video. It has always been the worst source of information about everything, even worse than early Wikipedia. I will not watch your YouTube video.

    And it's slow as hell. They always think their point is both complicated and interesting. Text remains the best medium for communication.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Sorta depends for me. If I can connect the YouTuber back to something valid like an event where science is held in high esteem or collabs with people I do trust I'll give it a shot. Basically every single time this is not the case, and in his case it's literally never the case. Dude searches for his batshit view, clicks the first video without watching it, then sends it like I'm supposed to filter it for him. He'd believe in aliens if the video had 1 million views. He kinda does anyways since the why files is his favorite channel and it's barely researched (by AI) slop, where whatever his agent can't disprove becomes a "mystery"

    One of the examples that comes to mind is the Navy UAP videos, where he looked at what was clearly a bird, wing flaps and all, locked on to by a fighter jet and said "that's a craft and WOAH it disappeared (when the pilot lost autotarget)" as well as, "a fighter pilot on Fox said it's a vehicle of some sort and he's a lot smarter than you." And got indignant and walked off when I said, "smarter and paid or a lot dumber than me, either way he's wrong."

    I brought up the dumbass sheriff chasing Jupiter on a winding road too and he felt it wasn't Jupiter because the sheriff was an expert witness for some reason. Dude's cooked

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Ai voice or is just text to voice? Some people are adverse to having their voice online like that, but still want to participate in things.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Its like they're not even people anymore.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    Idk about that, but certainly there is a very strong correlation between people like this and those who feel like they need to consult chatgpt or grok to filter out basic facts. Their willingness to give up their own thoughts and opinions bodes poorly for the future, especially of democracy.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    give up their own thoughts and opinions, freely

    But also

    saying 'its like they're not people anymore' is a bit much'

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child)

    It's valid critique, but I don't like the precedence of being stupid also taking away your humanity. Education can fail us in deliberate ways from the top sometimes, I wouldn't say folks with a bad education aren't human. Even for folks who lean out of otherwise good education, or who don't hone their critical thinking skills, I judge them as humans who suck. Being in the middle of a fascist regime and with mainstream news dehumanizing minorities, I think language around humanity is important.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    There's a difference between this and old fashioned stupid. Stupid people still have thoughts, and those thoughts are their own. Even if they're stupid.

    Stupid people still have opinions. They didn't get them from me, and if they rid they've been distorted beyond recognition.

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  • [–] 59 points 2 months ago* (9 children)

    I have stopped using the youtube frontpage and blocked the algorithmic recommendations from appearing.
    Now I only browse my subscriptions.
    My recommendations for food history: Tasting History with Max Miller + Townsends
    For Military History: Lindybeige
    For Medieval Clothing: Bernadette Banner
    Medieval Life: V. Birchwood
    General History: Premodernist

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    More recommendations:

    Miniminuteman (history/debunking viral claims)

    Ancient Americas (video essays about various pre-contact societies in the Americas)

    Time Team (filming archaeologists as they excavate a site)

    A Brush With Bekah (demonstrations of historical pigment use, plus education about why it's toxic AF)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Seconding Max Miller. For history I would also like to recommend Timeghost. I suspect that most people interested in the world wars already know, but for those who don't; they've done both WWI and WWII week by week, with deep dives into big events (including a 24-hour D-Day documentary) and a big focus on the human cost of war. I cannot recommend them enough to anyone interested in recent history!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    For ancient history and prehistory, there are extraordinary riches:
    History With Cy
    Dan Davis History
    Stefan Milo
    Ancient Architects
    World Of Antiquity
    toldinstone

    A good way to find more, pull that thread, is to see which other YouTube channels these channels follow.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    For food, Weird Fruit Explorer is awesome. It's very niche, but high level he's a contortionist who loves extremely rare fruit and travels the world on a mission to try every fruit there is, the rarer and weirder the better.

    https://youtu.be/FkKPpOomdpQ

    It's a very fun show. Sort by most watched though since not all episodes are the most interesting IMO.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 months ago

    you should look on fmhy.net (free media heck yea). It gathers all sorts of free internet content like linking to archives with history content or places to find recipes.
    Worked better for me than a searchengine for starting with sourdough (my starters could be dead by now)

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Respect for using the "Le Me" format.... It's an older code but it checks out.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    I'm using https://aisloplist.com/ on Firefox and chrome. Seems to work well, not sure why it's not used by more people.

    It's a community project / extension for identifying and blocking AI channels on YouTube.

    Edit: another commenter in this thread mentioned an Android app YouTube Morphe which uses the same index. I don't know how to link to their comment.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Anyone interested in history better start collecting actual tangible history books before they're all destroyed, and read & learn from those books, before TPTB use computers & internet & ai to rewrite past history to change & omit past historical events for their own nefarious purposes.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not trying to be contrarian or defeatist here, but would it really be useful if basically everyone else "knows" the official story?

    I can 100% see why it would be important to fight for and preserve, but on the individual scale it looks like a steady train to being that weird guy who [hates our country / is a terrorist / believes our people have ever been baddies / etc]

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    ... Yes?

    Public knowledge drives public opinion and decision making.

    A lack of knowledge of history makes us more likely to repeat history. Rewriting of history is usually a tactic that prevents mistakes of the past from being taught or learned, often for a direct benefit to an entity.

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    [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    This but for porn

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    i only watch history videos that either 3+ years old or from a youtuber i have some basic level of trust

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Nebula is a pretty good source for History vids.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Try older videos or a different website

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    There’s a great quote “… the soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts.” from Marcus Aurelius. With this in mind I’ve been regretting the kind of person YouTube has been dying my soul with.

    I’ve unironically returned to books and writing/reviewing in notebooks to fill in the gaps of my time. You can get notebooks that fit in your pocket and can just pluck it out and review whatever ideas you’ve been chewing on lately instead starting up a video. I add to the notebooks as I read.

    When I have more time in the evenings I can collate those notes into broader writing projects, which are mostly simple blog posts. This process has brought me a fantastic feeling of clarity.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    What's been helpful recently is having a different native language than English. Coupled with the no translation extension that prevents YouTube's AI from dubbing stuff I already understand, I sometimes get interesting and specific recommendations.

    Otherwise, stick to known channels.

    EDIT: The downside of speaking multiple languages with YouTube's AI push is that it's gonna try to translate everything to you as if you were monolingual. Set YouTube in English and it will translate everything in English, even if you speak French or German. Set YouTube In French and it will translate everything in French even if you can speak English. This shit is horrible.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    I'm sick of all the extremely shitty formulaic "Sci slop" channels with illustration mas by Chatgpt

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    I don't know if I'm using YouTube the right or the wrong way, but no, not seeing or watching any AI content. I watch like 5-7 channels, I only use the "subscriptions" page. I might watch a recommended video, but those are usually the old videos from the channels I have subscribed to. I have uBlock and another extension that blocks shorts. Maybe it is a shitfest, but I'm not witnessing it. There are plenty of decision we all make.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Unhook should provide more personal control of experiences within Youtube. If I must watch something controversial like discussions about opposition to AI, I use Freetube so that I don't get bombarded with unnecessary suggestions.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child)

    That Unhook sounded interesting, so I turned off my current YouTube add-on ("Hide shorts for Youtube™") and uhhh, the Unhook literally did nothing but arranged some things around lol. Not for me, the shorts and all were still there. But cool idea I guess.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    It works where uBlock is otherwise being cockblocked from working certain parts. I generally use Unhook to get rid of the comments and live chat section, besides changing my location to a non-Western country.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Tbh I’ve gotten almost 0 AI generated content in my YT recommendations. Algorithm knows I won’t like it I guess

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    where does one learn such power? I'm daily blocking the entire recommendation section to not getting nuts

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Turn off history when signed in maybe? Turning it off seems to work for me. Most of my recommendations on the side when signed in are from channels I have already subscribed to, while I typically avoid clicking on channels and videos that have clickbait-y thumbnails or titles.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    I've got search history off, watch history on. When I watch something that I don't want to see more of popping up in my recommendations, I immediately remove it from history after. The resulting watch history plus a small number of core subscriptions results in quite useable recommendations for me.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    My algorithm knows better. It knows I won't hesitate to delete my history and fuck up its metrics.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I have been using YouTube on the same account for like 15 years and I have never deleted my watch history :o

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    I watch history videos to fall asleep, think I've found 10 channels now that isn't ai slop. I'm always very skeptical when I click on a video from someone I don't know. It's annoying as hell

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Imagine not using sub box for all your video. Fuck algorithm i am the algorithm now.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I found a really cool video I think comparing the pacific rim robots. Only got 2-3 minutes in because the AI voice over threw me off.

    Checked out the channel and they made a kinda face reveal saying thank you for the views, with their actual voice. Even with their accent, I would have much preferred the human accented voice, verses the "perfect" computer voice

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Fwiw you can report undisclosed AI videos now but removing the view from your watch history is prob also a good idea

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    [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I really like fall of civilizations podcast, there are many hours of well researched and produced history. And also for a smaller creater underthefigtree is very cozy.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    It's gotten so bad.

    I try to stick to my same subscribed to channels and even these days, the quality has dropped because their revenues are being affected by the AIpocalypse

    It's a bad time all round

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    So some tricks and tips to ensure YouTube learns what videos you really want:

    • Turn off autoplay, don't let it go down an algorithmic rabbit hole only allow it to see what you really want and click on
    • Turn off the hover play on PC, this is annoying mouse over counts as watching they will be in your history despite no audio and you just had the mouse over it.. Again gives all sorts of slop in your history
    • Subscribe to channels you like, yes YouTube will quickly learn if you binge a specific channel you like the creator and put it on your home feed, but if the home feed is a bit too much slop you want to be able to just look at your subs
    • When you find that AI slop video and more from the same creator exists in your feed use the do not recommend this channel feature
    • there is also a do not recommend video good for some evil click bait titles that Google tries to show you for weeks and still not interested
    • the last two if it's persistent use the tell more/tell why

    It's a long list but it's really 90% is the first two so your views are deliberate, sticking to subs is not a bad idea if the algorithm is particularly frustrating at the moment as it will also help limit the random walk. What anoys me the most is the first two are not account settings rather cookies so every new device I need to tell YouTube how to behave.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I recommend historiacivilis.com

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    YouTube Morphe for Android has an option to filter out AI videos (along with ads and sponsored segments too, of course).

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    I imagine previous viewers vote on it to let others know.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    There’s always Extra History! https://youtube.com/@extrahistory

    years and years of back catalog to catch up on if you’re looking to kill several dozen hours

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    as long as the actual content is human created, a tts voice isn't that bad. some content creators are just not comfortable/confident enough to do the narration themselves

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You're using Youtube wrong

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Youtube is full of fantastic history programs, what do you use it for?

    I'm afraid

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Avoid the youtube frontpage and "algortihm" like the plague. I solely use newpipe these days. Only watch subscribed channels. Find new channels through external recommendations, Youtube itself does not recommend what you want or like, it recommends what they want. No tinfoild head stuff, just economics.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    The algorithms have always been evil. youtube is best as entertainment by your own hand picked curated creators.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    all the shorts are mostly AI, some are just reposted from tiktok. and alot of wierd animal videos are AI generated.

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    I've been enjoying History of Everything (Podcast) with Stakuyi for a bit now, definitely recommend.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    The channel Historia Civilis has made excelent videos about the military exploits of ancient Greece and Rome. I highly recommend.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, no fucking thanks to the techbros wanting all of humanity to embrace this monstrosity by arguing AI is the "new normal".

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    It is sad how widespread the ai slop has become on youtube. The official Criterion collection channel just released a video which has scenes that are entirely AI-generated. The channel for the record company Analogue Sounds has as well. And even if the videos themselves doesn't contain AI-slop, then a lot of them have AI-generated thumbnails.

    It is disheartening how many people are just mindlessly accepting AI-slop in their daily life.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, Same here honestly

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Take the time to Take those little surveys,or click on the "do Not recommend Box".

    If you do it enough times,it rights itself......for a while!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Sometimes you are lucky and that's just shitty AI translation and you can still switch to original audio.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    Bro wym there's all kinds of great history content on yt. Drachinifel, cone of arc, ocean liner designs, Nick Zentner (if you like the geologic history of the PNW), the list goes on.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    Recommend "The Rest is History" program on youtube, very good and a large catalog of videos, zero AI.

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    Last time I looked, if you clicked on the thumbs down a new button appeared with some label like "don't show me more stuff like this".

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Star Wars: the slop machine strikes back

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    The "Don't recommend channel" button has served me pretty well so far (although yeah, you'd have to go through something first to mark it as such).

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  • Epic History

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