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[–] 18 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Either you solve the problems of the working people, or you blame it all on immigrants and minorities.

Only one of these approaches is consistent with what the oligarchs want.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Any scapegoat plays. When I was a kid Reagan blamed black women.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    Remember the "welfare queen"? Reagan literally invented that, there was no such woman, he just made up a woman living like nobility on government "handouts", and even though it was all shown to be a sham, the right still uses that phrase.

    "I don't care that it's fake. It still pisses me off!"

    Edit: My comment was drunk and hyperbolic, please see below comment for clarification

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Reagan literally invented that, there was no such woman

    There was one woman, specifically, who was identified, arrested, prosecuted, and imprisoned. Reagan's media team then generalized the singular incident into a massive national conspiracy by an entire ethnic demographic.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It's better that everybody should suffer than to have one person cheat the system.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Fellow Democrats...

    Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

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  • [–] 89 points 2 months ago (28 children)

    When Biden sided with the railroads I lost the last shred of hope I had for the party.

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  • [–] 81 points 2 months ago (19 children)

    Mines been gone ever since what they did to fuck over Bernie from receiving the nomination.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah, both the DNC, and Elizabeth Warren did this.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I wasn't a fan myself. I resented the hell out of him for entering the race in 2020 and outing Bernie. I don't like to talk about it much because it makes me seem like a Bernie bro but as far as I'm concerned the democratic establishment did everything they could to keep a socialist out of the whitehouse. The entire primary was political theater to dilute the socialist agenda and Biden only entered the race when it was clear that, even with his base split between him and warren, nothing was going to stop Sanders.

    BUT, as someone who spent time in the trade unions I swallowed my pride and voted for Biden. I didn't expect much, but I did expect a damn democrat to do what they always say they would do and support the union block.

    2020 was the moment. It was the last time I actually thought we could turn things around. Ever since that primary I've just been waiting for us to go the way of the USSR.

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  • [+] -26 points 2 months ago (12 children)
  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    Super delegates come to mind. They mostly sided with Hillary. Without the Superdelegates, Bernie was never far behind Hillary in terms of delegates. And since the media reported the super delegates who had at this point only pledged to vote for Hillary as if they were obligated to vote for her as if they were normal delegates, this probably demoralized Bernie voters.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    They rigged the primary for Hillary, an action they were later forced to admit to and defend in court.

    They also let Hillary seize campaign funds from down ballot races and screwed over half of their own candidates. It was ironically called the Clinton Victory Fund.

    Fuck 'centrists'. They're all fascists too.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    It's crazy they couldn't see the excitement Bernie was creating. The only one who was excited for Hillary was Hillary.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I hate that the entire political apparatus in the US hinges on a few assholes' egos, but it's what we're stuck with

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    There's no alliance to be made with the party that's decided it serves the enemy.

    Wall Street is the enemy. No party that takes corporate donations at all can claim not to be serving the enemy.

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  • [+] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)
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    I've already outlined how the superdelegates could have given Hillary an advantage in winning regular primaries.

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  • [+] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    She wouldn't have been ahead without the superdelegates demoralizing the Bernie supporters.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I've shown that she had a significant unfair advantage. Proving that she'd have won if things were fair is on you.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    The notion of "superdelegates" is inherently anathema to democracy. Every vote counts equal. Introducing a class of people whose votes are worth more than others inherently corrupts the process. Since the superdelegates overwhelmingly supported Hillary, they gave her an unfair advantage.

    Hillary won against Bernie because the deck was stacked in her favor. Of course, she didn't have any sort of unfair advantage in the presidential election, where she proceeded to lose against Trump, of all people. Because she couldn't rig that contest.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Same, that was about when I started emotionally preparing for 4 more years of Trump.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    IMHO it was clear Trump would win 2024 when Biden was nominated in 2020. America demands change and corporate centrists will just enrage them more.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    The inherent problem with the DNC is that rank in the party is designated by seniority, and all the current senior members came into power when Third Way politics became popularized.

    Third way politics is the actual non conspiracy reason you should hate the Clintons. They popularized it in America as a way to get past the gridlock of Congress that started in the early 90s. Basically they would work with "centrist" politicians on the other side of the aisle on any policy that both parties could agree with. This decongested the grid lock and "proved" that Democrats could be trusted to navigate the center path.

    In reality it ceded control over what policy made up the middle ground over to Republicans, who took the opportunity to drag the DNC further and further right. So now we have a "leftist" political party that has been trained for the last 30 years to reflexively make concessions at the whim of the increasingly fascist right.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    they likely worked with gingirch and mitch mconnel to achieve this end. both of them using never work with the other side until you get what you want legislation.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    All of them are neoliberal pieces of shit that have to go

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    Schumer, Jefferies are top donor recipients, apparently if you want a audience with these 2, you better toe the line for israel/MIC and if you want your political carrer/connections to survive.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    "Win back the working class".

    The Ds and Rs have been working against the working class for about 70 years.

    Yes, I know the Ds provide more lip service... but the numbers don't lie. Pay is down, life expectancy is down, everything is down but corporate profits.

    Unions were almost 50% of the workforce back in the 50s, now they are down to less than 10%, and most of that is government employees.

    Even Poland now has better worker benefits than the USA, maternity leave, vacation, and other benefits Americans can only dream of. We have been surpassed by Eastern Europe.

    It sure would be nice to have a labor party in the USA. You can't win back the working class by actively fucking them over for generations.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    The Ds and Rs have been working against the working class for about 70 years.

    FDR was the compromise not the solution. We got improvements under penalty of revolution and that's only been eroded since.

    Sadly most in the usa have been convinced/conditioned to think what was extremely hard won is fair to throw away in return for the possibility of small wealth increases, with the almost everything else getting worse

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I think campaign consultants are the root of this problem, at least in the Democratic party. When you have a campaign run like El Sayed's, where no corporate or PAC money is accepted, then you need to knock on doors, and talk to people. Traditional campaigns pay millions to the consultants who then spend your war chest on legacy media ad buys, which they get a commission on.

    This is one major reason why El Sayed, Mamdani, et al, are such a threat to both parties and also why legacy media has targeted Hasan Piker. They are just as effective, if not more effective, without giving special interests(capital) power over them.

    We're not in a left/right struggle as much as a top/bottom struggle.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    If we're to fix this, they both gotta go

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I just wish they'd spend it on something useful like studying whether trickle down economics worked or not. I feel like its been a good couple of weeks since the last time 'findings'.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Coming from the polls on MDC today I can tell D voters registered and living in the 305 just didn't show up. This is why we can't have nice things.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    looks at my state well, I would vote for a socialist if I had one... :( I'll still vote though, regardless.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    People who see enough “real” lose their ability to consume or be influenced by bullshit. You’ll see this in healthcare among experienced staff. People are often their authentic selves, for better or worse, when ill or in pain. More so, with staff members who spend the most time dealing directly with the people.

    What happens is healthcare management loses their ability to bullshit or talk sideways to staff to placate them.

    I feel like the people as a whole are becoming like that now. (Finally). In response to political spin. The “muzzle velocity” approach to news has accelerated that progression. People are generally done with bullshit and talking sideways from their politicians.

    What will happen if democrats try anything less than authenticity, is they will likely cease to exist as a party. The “vote against” momentum is already dying.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I actually think Mamdani has helped accelerate this as well, proving that it’s possible to just do things citizens want by you know, doing them them takes so much air out of bought and paid for career politicians

    It’s obviously not all him, but I do think the visibility and his overall authenticity is changing hearts and minds

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    And he balanced the budget. Republicans do the opposite now when balancing the budget used to be their political war cry. And he did it right away, didn’t take long.

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  • Basically every municipal budget in the country could be balanced by de-funding the police.

    Maybe there's fuckwoods county Montana, with two park rangers a cop and a comptroller, but the cop could still be replaced with a social worker who gets paid half as much and does more good.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Fuck the GOP for sure but it's hard to still believe in a two-party system without seeing both parties as eerily similar.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Both parties are charged with keeping their 330 million people maximally productive. The US isn't the richest country in the world without reason.

    The country is rich, the people aren't.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    A two party state is a one party state with another step.

    Seriously though, don't want to be cynical- there is a massive difference between the two parties. One is a meek bureaucrat, the other a convicted serial rapist, and quite literally.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Certainly the Democrats knew Harris would lose to Trump. She wasn't even popular amongst Democrats.

    That said, the jury did not find Trump liable for rape, but he was found guilty of sexual abuse. Which would be bad enough, but Democrats like to screw themselves by exaggerating everything and looking hyperbolic for doing so.

    They also say stupid things like Vance humps couches which makes the person saying it look way worse than Vance.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    She was polling very strong. I don't know if you remember but she was crushing it, there was momentum, then suddenly Trump won every single swing state with a statistically shocking margin.

    You don't even have to be conspiratorial, it is a well documented fact that Musk bribed people to vote for Trump in an illegal raffle.

    Then immediately after the election Musk was given the keys to the kingdom and the archives and with a literal chainsaw and {stuff happened} and three months later he and his crew went away and were persona non grata again.

    Like...

    I don't mean to sound like that but I've been involved with some seedy business and I know when some shady shit went down, it doesn't take a genius to figure it out

    Edit: btw Trump was found civilly liable for sexual abuse and had to pay $5 million in damages. https://factually.co/fact-checks/justice/donald-trump-sexual-assault-convictions-78a839

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    "I dont know what to do, i dont know how to reach out to these good men and women to communicate with and to share our values"

    "have you tried talking to them? Listening to their needs?"

    "What? Why the fuck would I lower my self to the peasantry. They just need to do what they're told and like it.. now how do we make them understand this"

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    they spend millions, consulting with the donors and gop Behind closed doors to be exact.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago*

    Look kiddo, the adults in the room know that if you keep voting for the lesser of two evils, they'll eventually feel guilty and give you some candy. It's called Democracy: look it up.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    "Politician's" priorities are always clear.

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  • [+] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    My fringe idea is to bring back the Bull Moose party, it can be a caucus within the Dem party like the DSA but basically full of people who will fight MAGA and project 2025 with all the dirty tricks the mainstream dems refuse to use

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Exactly. They're trying to find a propaganda strategy that works. After having ignored men for decades, they now have to spend the money to figure out how to re-convince men to vote for them because they never thought men were worth the effort. Just like their policies demonstrate.

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