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[–] 82 points 2 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 134 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    I've cycled to work and back 59 times this year, and reported 36 drivers (with video evidence from my bike) to the police, with them taking "positive action" in 34 of those cases. But yeah, it's the cyclists who are dangerous.

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  • [–] 75 points 2 months ago (15 children)

    Yeah I think the main problem isn't the cyclists themselves, it's that cyclists don't have a safe place ride without getting ran over. Cyclists shouldn't be a problem to drivers in the first place if they had their own lane or space. I'm lucky to live somewhere that has bike lanes and sidewalks on most streets. America strangely lacks basic infrastructure in a vast majority of their country. It really sucks ass if you have a fear of driving :(

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I bike or walk pretty much everywhere I go, so my take on roads and traffic is that they're usually far too car-centric (Norway). Even when I drive, I'm so used to thinking like a cyclist that I become very aware of how poorly roads are often designed around biking.

    With that said... The amount of cyclists with an apparent death wish is just staggering. Just two days ago I passed a cyclist in an 80 km/h zone. No issue there. Just around the next turn, I caught up to a second cyclist that I couldn't immediately pass due to oncoming traffic. I'm behind this second cyclist, going downhill at maybe 50 km/h, with oncoming traffic on a relatively narrow road, when I notice that the first cyclist has caught up to us. Instead of placing himself behind me, he decided it was a brilliant idea to squeeze himself into the ≈ 1.5 m gap between me (a 6m long, 2-ton car going at 50 km/h) and the guard rail. At this point, I'm just sitting here terrified that I'll end up accidentally squeezing him into the guard rail and killing him if I happen to move a couple centimeters too close to the edge of the road. I'm seriously afraid of breaking to let him in front of me, because I'm afraid he could hit my side-view mirror if I break unexpectedly (for him). There's oncoming traffic, so I can't move over to give him more space.

    To be honest, even when I'm biking myself I far too often find other cyclists to be absolute assholes with no respect for traffic rules. Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone (by a long shot), but man those people cause the rest of us a lot of stress by being a danger to themselves and others.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    A lot of Cyclists seem to have car brain when biking, but don’t realize they are on a bike.

    I have almost hit several cyclists that run red lights going 20+ MPH. Good thing I was paying attention…

    When I lived in a walking friendly area, I used to keep a metal multitool in my hand to hit cars with when they tried to run me over.

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  • [–] 54 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Cyclists aren't a "problem" any more than traffic lights or stop signs are. Drivers should be able to deal with having to slow down a bit for a few seconds without getting upset about it. If you saw a driver shouting out of his window at a traffic light you'd think they were insane.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Yeah and not believing that cyclists have no right to space and should be squeezing to the side to let them by.

    It has become wildly better here in Bordeaux though, in the city there are basically no incivilities any more, but they have done a tremendous job to get there. Get outside of the city (in the suburbs) and it's still drive as fast as you can without thinking like before.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Only "vehicular" cyclists are an issue, but TBH even other cyclists hate them.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    If I'm on a bike, notice a car coming up behind me, and don't think it's safe for them to pass, I will put myself in the middle of the road to block them.

    If they try some stupid and dangerous passing, I'm the one getting pulped. Putting yourself in the middle of the road is a very effective way of communicating "don't even try to squeeze past me, there's not enough space." The most dangerous situations I've been in on a bike have been due to cars trying to squeeze past me when there isn't enough space, it's terrifying.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    When they have their own lane and space cars still just use it. They park on the bike lanes, move into them if somebody's passing on their left, or try and pass cars on their right if they find space during slow traffic.

    Absolutely needed but people in cars will still cause issues and when they cause issues, it's a multi ton vehical hitting some aluminium and flesh.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    As someone who doesn't really ride bikes, I think it's wild when car people are against bike lanes.

    Back when I used to drive, it was so annoying to get stuck behind a cyclist. Their max speed is lower than the speed limit on most roads, passing them makes me nervous even on straight and flat roads, and if the road is hilly or curvy like most in my area, it's downright dangerous.

    I would love it if there were more bike lanes so that cyclists don't get in my way. Why would anyone who drives a car be against that?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Agreed. My bike is egregiously visible. I put over a hundred reflectors on her (no that's not hyperbole, there are a hundred spokeys and then some) and then lights and a flag, and it's all very bright.

    No one sensible wants to hit you when you're out riding, so when you make yourself easy to see, they react accordingly. I've only had a couple shitass drivers who tried to kill me while out driving in the last year. Maybe it's my locale, maybe it's my loud bike, maybe I'm lucky and the local gangs are looking out for me as a favor for keeping my mouth shut that one time (I asked that they keep my bike and my friends' bikes from being stolen as my favor and bikes stopped getting stolen in town). idk.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You live in a country where the police actually does something on these cases?

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Luckily, yes. There's a web page where you fill in the details, you upload the footage and then they actually do something about it. Options for "positive action" are:

    • Letter - which has the same status as a police warning, i.e. no action taken at the time but it can be used against you later if you go to court for something similar
    • Points and fine with the option of taking a driving education course instead
    • Points and a fine with no alternative
    • Sent to court

    All these can be appealed. Interestingly, I once spoke to one of the people who processes the cases. He said that the drivers don't get to see the video footage unless they say they want to appeal. Then they see the footage and almost all of them drop it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Where do you live that the police do more than file the report?

    Where I am they don't do anything if a car hits you unless the damage is beyond a cost threshold or someone is killed.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (20 children)

    Living in a big Dutch city. Cyclists just be like: I have to be careful not to hit any more dumb suicidal tourists. For fuck sake, I have had to repair my bike twice this week already.

    And in these modern times everyone needs to be careful of young kids on fat bikes.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    Fuckin' tourists. Get off the fietspad! And I wish they would just say no e-bikes for under-16.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    Yeah, plus no fat bikes at all!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Why no fat tires? I'm thinking about getting some just because they look easier to maintain

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    They aren’t easier to maintain at all, the exact opposite is true. Most bicycle shops refuse to even service them because they are of such bad quality and the parts are not available. They are very unsafe (brakes failing, things like that).

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    why would they be easier to maintain?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (9 children)

    Because they should get fewer flats. Larger surface area and all that.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Larger surface area surely increases the risk as there is more area that could run over glass shards.

    I have 700x35, or 38, can't remember. Had 1 flat on the front wheel in the entire lifespan of the outer tread. Second outer tyre now and nothing so far.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    i've got 20 and 24 inchers and i live in goats head country. i cannot keep them inflated for the life of me. I am this close to just putting solid rubber blocks on my wheels

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Marathon plus touring tyres is what I use and it isn't far off solid rubber blocks. But with the amount of broken glass on my commute its probably worth it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    i've got those tannis inserts and i somehow got a flat directly through the thick part of the insert last month. i blame my vile sister in law who was visiting. my wife's bike got a flat while we weren't riding somehow too.

    ps my cat says t n mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    pps i really should have gotten y'all's input before buying generic orange tyres last week. they're orange tho!

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    Meaning more surface area to hit something sharp. Yeah the larger area means lower pressure on the contact surface but I don't think that's the deciding factor in whether something punctures your tire. Best way to prevent punctures is tougher tires rather than larger ones. The lower pressure just helps with stuff like loose gravel or sand.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    There are also puncture self repairing tires now. They have a gel like layer on the inside which gets pushed out into the hole sealing it. I have them and haven't had a flat in over 5 years.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    Then get one at the black market because then you pay what they are worth. Also, they are perfect if you like to maintain your bike, as you have to do it often. They break down often, especially breaks. Easy to maintain? No. Lots of sensor errors, software issues, etc. It's fancy looking (well, I find them ugly AF) Chinese junk which have increased accidents exponentially since they arrived on the market. Next to that they are getting banned now, with Amsterdam as a first banning them at certain places. They also want to change regulations to make helmets mandatory for them and raise the minimum age.

    Want an electric bike? Get a non-smart one. No Vanmoof or anything like that. They are junk (I had one, they are awful and insanely overpriced).

    Best advice I can give you is a Gazelle or similar brand, with a Bosch middle motor (so not in the wheels, as they suck). They are easy to maintain, don't have weird electronics hidden in impossible places, no smart mullshit which requires an app or the bike won't work, normal commercial off the shelf parts you can get anywhere.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Everyone warned me about the bikes in Amsterdam when I went to visit. When I got there and stepped outside for the first time, oh yeah the bike lane is painted a different colour to the pavement so I will walk on the pavement bit. Hang on, how the fuck do people struggle with this?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I have some sympathy here for the tourists. You know how you can identify a tourist very easily? They are looking upward or even pointing upward while looking upward. The walking goes on automatic as the slightly tilted facades and red windows draw attention. Difficult to see the color of the fietspad if you aren't ever looking downward.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What about fat kids on young bikes?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Fat kid is child abuse (unless medical condition) and the young bike needs to be rated for the weight otherwise it's also child abuse (/jk). But older bikes usually have steel wheels while younger bikes have aluminium bikes, so the weight capacity is larger with older bikes (not that it matters for kids though, but it does matter when having someone on your luggage carrier).

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  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I do occasionally see a kamikaze cyclist while driving. But damn am I more afraid on bike.

    I don't know if the drivers don't see me from their phones or if they just don't care even about their cars' paint.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The kamikaze cyclists give all of us a really bad time. I'm honestly surprised at how some people behave in traffic, knowing that they're an unprotected meat bag moving at speeds far higher than what the human body is built for.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Just yesterday I watched a teenager biking the wrong way on a 40mph road in the bike lane. They must’ve just learned how to ride because they were wobbling and swerving so far out of the lane that I was worried they’d smash into oncoming traffic.

    Luckily it was a 4 lane road so cars could move over, but yeeeesh the kid had a death wish.

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  • [–] 60 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Gosh, almost as if cyclists need safe spaces to ride. How about we just drastically reduce the number of 2 ton deathmachines on the roads.

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  • [+] -26 points 2 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Seriously, go look at a notjustbikes video

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    angry boomer noises

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Living in Manhattan for decades, I only had 3 issues with cyclists. I've had dozens with drivers. I had no issues with skateboarders.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    this is what's wild to me. I'll be having casual conversation with people and they'll mention one cyclist that did something they didn't like. sometimes (rarely) it's valid like running a red light, sometimes it's something stupid like complaining about how they're not in the non-existent bike lane. the wild part is that they will do this after we just had multiple discussions about how bad drivers were on the way to the location that we are currently hanging out. like, there's just no recognition for how much worse drivers are and how much more prevalent it is.

    no matter what method of transportation I use, drivers are always the worst part of it. always. no matter where I go. a lot of routes around my house don't even require me to be on public streets except residential streets or to cross streets, and still drivers will fuck up the one of three situations in which I must interact with them.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 months ago

    Obligatory fuck cars

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    When I'm not biking I drive a delivery truck and make sure I stop for and/or let pass every cyclist in order to drive every other car brain on the road insane and it gives me great pleasure.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    *Drivers: I have to be careful by not texting gibberish or not watching this entire 7 second TikTok clip

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    my mindset when biking now is mostly to inconvenience bad drivers as much as possible and ensure that if they hit me it results in as much damage to their car as I can without harming myself.

    I will aggressively take my right of way. one of the most common places is a bike crossing nearby where drivers routinely blow the stop line on their red light - I start up quickly so that if they blow the stop and go into the crossing, I may not be able to stop before crashing into them (you often can't see them approaching the stop line because they are behind traffic in the middle lane). I don't mind my shitty bike taking some damage if it leaves them with a dented door panel. another common occurrence is roundabouts - drivers vastly underestimate the speed at which a bike can navigate a tight roundabout, and they routinely cut me off. unfortunately, I've avoided collisions every time that a driver has nearly hit me, because my reaction is to not get hurt. but god damn did I ever want to slam into some of those cars and leave a lasting impression

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    I feel you but you only have only one fragile body.

    I spent months of horror and multiple hospitalisations because I braked too hard on my bike at low speed, didn't fall but landed too hard on the saddle. My username comes from that horrendous experience.

    Of course it was because a car ran a red light, that was hidden to the inattentive car driver by a truck parked like an asshole.

    There's a shitload of studies showing that cars break far more rules than bikes everywhere it has been measured. You don't have to put your body in the line to make a point.

    Please just be safe for your own sake. You certainly deserve it.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    thankfully my reflexes still prioritize my own safety, and most times I leave a near collision pissed off at the shitty driver and regretful that I couldn't leave them a lasting mark. but when I get to the chance to, say, let my cargo bike basket scrape a car that pushed me into the curb, I'm gonna try to take it.

    and thankfully (?) my health issues are unrelated to biking injuries (at least, unrelated to sharing the road with drivers — I've got a completely self-inflicted road injury from long ago and injuries from mountain biking lol).

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Today, while I had the green light, had another car blatantly run a red light and almost hit me. I turned left to catch up with him, pounded on his window and told him he was a jackass. When he rolled his window down I recognized him as a state assembly member. Hoping he doesn't recognize me when he eventually calls the HR office because he's at the dentists office and doesn't have his insurance card because he's a fucking spoiled man-child.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Idunno pedestrians in my city just walk with the confidence that law says cars have to stop.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I do that. If I get to a crosswalk, I don't stand and wait for cars to stop, I step into the road and make them stop, because thems the rules. I don't do it while I'm staring at my phone though, because that's dumb.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    As I've heard one person say, "your right of way doesn't matter if I run you over." As a pedestrian, I always wait until I see the car slowing down before I step out in front of it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I definitely agree with the sentiment, my top priority is to not get run over. I still walk confidently onto the crosswalk without pausing, while keeping a close eye on the approaching car so that I can get out of the way if they don't stop.

    My experience is that if you hesitate, way too many drivers will just floor it in front of you, while if you give the impression that they'll hit you if they don't stop, they'll hit the breaks.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Exactly. I drive and watch people hover on the sidewalk, clearly intending to enter the crosswalk, but not making that move. I stop whenever I even so much as think someone might cross. I stop and sometimes they turn instead of crossing. Whatever, doesn't matter, it's two seconds. But it seems like everyone else on the road can't be bothered.

    And so it's because of that that I just walk into the road. And I should say into the road, but not into the travel lane, per se, because I don't actually want to get hit, I got kids, and it would be a stupid funeral if "Dad died doing what he loved, being an idiot."

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    yeah, I do that. because I have right of way when I do it.

    I had a driver yell at me once because in her incorrect opinion I had not checked for cross traffic. I was approaching a pedestrian crossing at a roundabout that is signed that drivers must yield to pedestrians. I knew she was approaching from my left, I heard her slowing down, and I quickly glanced to confirm that she was stopping. I did this without obviously turning my head. I stepped into the crosswalk without slowing down, and she took the time to roll her window down and yell at me that I need to look around or something, and then nearly hit something as she proceeded through the roundabout trying to roll her window back up.

    I did everything just fine, she was just mad that she was too inobservant to notice me checking for traffic

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