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24 comments in c/health@lemmy.world view that post
[–] 39 points 3 months ago

I wish these fucking pieces of shit would get aborted.

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    around 1.3 million Americans died during covid. wouldn't it be funny to use their identities to flood reports of women getting abortions across state lines.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (17 children)

    Abortion surveillance is good medical data to have, but not when you have an Authoritarian regime running the country.

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  • [+] 23 points 3 months ago (14 children)
  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago*

    Anonymously aggregating results of pregnancies, what doesnt kill moms and babies, what DOES kill moms and babies, what causes side effects, and various other outcomes of medical practice has been studied for millenia. Its the human race's business to figure out what works and what doesnt.

    If your doctor isnt able to study patient outcome statistics to become an effective doctor, then...?

    You do know what lemmy community you are in, right?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Anonymized data can inform funding decisions, as well as collect medical data like side effects, failure rates, and demographic information that is useful for research and policymaking. That's not what this government will use it for, but under normal circumstances there are genuinely good reasons to collect that data.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    Health research needs accurate data, and it's how we figure out which medications/procedures are better/worse/harmful. In normal circumstances, that research would protect the people involved

    However, in some situations, that potential benefit isn't worth the potential harm from the data being abused. I can see why people would prefer to limit that data in the states, even if that is to the detriment of those seeking care

    Based on the way the new CDC director responded, it sounds like she wants the data for harmful reasons, rather than helping improve care

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The point was about whether medical data can be good, and people carefully explained the cases where it can be good and why its bad in this situation.

    If you're saying that old fashioned research was helpful but the modern "AI" junk is stupid, then yes that is the exact point I was making.

    Or we can just keep commenting "fuck this fuck that" at everything and bury our heads in the sand.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Modern ai in the context of medical research is not even stupid in this situation, necessarily. Ml in research isn't the same as industry pushing an llm. Not that any of this was about ai to begin with. I think that other poster might have been drunk or defensive or some shit.

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  • 17 comments in c/politics@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Wait, why would the CDC be enforcing state-level laws?

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    The comments of the new CDC Head spell out in plain terms that the bottom line for the anti-abortion political stance is sexual control. These people absolutely cannot stand sexual freedom, and consequence-free or harm-reduced sexuality. To them, sexual pleasure is a societal resource to be managed, policed, capitalized, and bestowed to the socially “worthy”.

    I am convinced that policing access to abortion care is a form of sexual abuse because of the inevitable consequences those policies impose:

    • It demonizes and punishes sexuality and sexual autonomy under implicit threat of possible injury or death from lack of medical care.

    • It exerts sociopolitical leverage over a person by legislating their internal and automatic biological functions of sexuality and pregnancy, for the nebulous whims of people they will never even meet.

    • It forces victims of rape to consider and be subject to their rapists’ control long after the assault has been committed, including custody disputes or forced child rearing if a pregnancy is carried to term.

    • It subjects women and females to invasive surveillance, de-facto suspicion, and financial burdens that restrict freedom of movement, living conditions, and quality of life.

    • It endorses and normalizes a toxic and fear-based culture that enthusiastically spreads false and coercive information about complex, private, and deeply personal issues.

    These are all aspects of the tactics that sexual abusers use to abuse, rape, control, and extract economic and social control over their victims. Any philosophy that brutalizes and discards the rights of a person for the crime of becoming pregnant has no place in civilized society.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    This has always been the case. You could hear it in the language these assholes would use - the way they'd sneer out phrases like "on demand abortion" (how else would you get one? The implication is that it was not a decision run by them). Or snarl about women using abortion as contraception.

    You could just tell that most of them hated the idea of women having autonomy and any decorative bullshit about "babies" was just window-dressing. Most of them could not give a flying fuck about actual babies, so their hysterics about fetuses was obviously bullshit.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Gosh it’s so fun living in the handmaid’s tale.

    Praise be.

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    “Abortion surveillance is absolutely a critical component of what the CDC is currently doing,” Schwartz responded. 

    “I also want to make sure that certain states are not conflating emergency services and hiding abortions in that emergency services case definition,”

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago

    There is no evidence that states are purposefully misclassifying abortion care when reporting statistics to the CDC. The implication that certain states are hiding abortion services behind the label of emergency care services is particularly egregious given that many women have died or nearly died after physicians denied them miscarriage care due to state-level abortion bans.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    “Leave it to the States…” ????

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    I remember an avalanche of gaslighting assholes acting like it was hysterical to call the states with trigger laws "Gilead States".

    They were and are totally full of shit, of course. And of course they don't plan on allowing free states to do what they want. Or have people from Gilead states travel to free states to do what they want.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Wow, you mean the supreme court wasn’t completely forthright and honest?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    The project of conservatives is to roll back modernity.

    They want to keep the smart phones and Internet and other modern conveniences, reject most of science and freedom and rights, and live, culturally, in the 1950s (minus the teaching of evolution, and the freedom of and from religion, of course). Possibly the 1850s for some of them...

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    This is really doing the important work the American people need these people to be doing.

    JFC.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Really convenient that we now have a panopticon vehcile tracking surveillance network installed across the entire us.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Trumps new _______ said _______ surveillance will be a critical focus.

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  • 1 comment in c/usa@midwest.social view that post
    [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Fuck Trump's new CDC head

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    [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Oh great, another insane person in charge of exactly what they shouldn't be. An Abortion Hunter in charge of the CDC, a brain worm in RFK's skin in charge of health, and a rapist con man in charge of everything.

    Is it just to piss us off and distract us? Are these candidates just sucking up to Trump the right way? Are these powerful people intentionally destroying the country faster to end the world? Is it just greed?

    I feel like it's all of that, but I'm really tired of it and really tired of being so powerless to do anything about it.

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