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[–] 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well not nothing. They do block the sun.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The most wild feature avout my sunglasses are that they have air pockets in the arms so they float if dropped in water.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Mine have interchangeable lenses, so I can swap them out for yellow or clear lenses if the light isn't so bright but I still want UV protection, protection from magpies, or something to block the wind in my eyes.

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  • [–] 53 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I took the time to read the fine print, and these glasses appear to sense the vector of reflected light and specifically filter out waves with a horizontal orientation. The processimg power needed to do this will mean these must have an uncomfortably large battery or require frequent charging.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    But of course it does something. It blocks light, and let a man stare at boobs discreetly.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Normalizing glasses that look like Facebook perv glasses isn't something I would want.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Glasses that have cameras should require red led to be on at all times by law (when turned on).

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I believe the Facebook glasses do have this.

    The problem is just that the light is rather easy for an end-user to remove. And that it may be too dim to clearly see in brighter situations.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    my socks also lack video recording or generative AI integration. perhaps i should sell them to eBay

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  • [–] 78 points 3 months ago (66 children)

    DuckDuckGo should apply this lesson to their search engine!

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  • [–] 86 points 3 months ago (62 children)
  • [–] 93 points 3 months ago (61 children)

    I maintain that this should be the default behavior and the AI be opt-in

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    I would argue a good 99% of what we experience in life should be opt-in and yet here we are. Use of AI, companies getting our data, etc is all opt-out meanwhile organ donation is opt-in. Wtf.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago* (46 children)

    AI is the future of search and I dont see anyway that changes. The user experience of AI search is way to good, average users love the summary at the top of their search. Almost every report i've seen shows over 50% of people using AI for search and that tracks with what I see in people i know in real life.

    I'm a DDG user and I do not want them to handicap themselves to pass a purity test.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Almost every report i’ve seen shows over 50% of people using AI for search

    Because it's not possible to search without there being an AI summary

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    No these are not reports that count someone viewing an AI summary on google as using AI for search.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    then how do they count it? home else could someone be counting "AI usage in the search engine"?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    I checked again to get a more up to date report and so that we actually have something to go off instead of my memory of some random reports. Pew finds 50% of people use chatbots and the most common use is searching for information. Also in the report the have a stat for reading AI summaries at the top of a search and that is 60% say that have, 10% dont know and 30% dont read it. https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2026/06/17/americans-and-ai-2026-chatbots-smart-devices-and-views-on-impact/

    So its fair to say I was wrong and its not over 50% but its close to 50%.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    Then opt in. We shouldn't have to opt out to avoid padding the AI numbers.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Its a generalized product targeting average people. Average people dont care AI/No AI they want the results and they use the AI summaries. If DDG hid it then they would just think it doesnt exist and go use google which provides them faster more convenient results.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    We’re talking about the same duckduckgo that had a huge poll about this right? The only data point that exists regarding what people want is that of the 175,354 users who took the poll, only 10% wanted AI features.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago

    And I bet those 10% were willing to opt in. Fucking sloppers incapable of giving a shit about truth. They want to kill the very concept. They're literally enemies of truth. Even fucking skeletor didn't hate the fucking concept of truth.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Yes we are talking about ddg which has roughly 100 million users and put out a poll to which 175k said they didnt want AI.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    What’s neat about an open poll like the one they ran is that it includes most of the people who care about weighing in. Maybe you can read an AI summary about statistically relevant sample sizes? It might be more useful to learn about the math, or to skip the summary and find a useful website, like this calculator from Qualtrics that will show you that a sample size of 175,000 is more than 10 times what you’d need to achieve a roughly 99% level of confidence with a 1% margin of error.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Yes that is a good sample size but its biased by the people weighing in caring most about the issue. If it was 175000 users sampled randomly from the DDG user base then yes it would be a good predictor but it wasnt.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    You're assuming that everyone who didn't answer the poll is for AI, not exactly a good assumption considering the poll results.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Im not making that assumption at all.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    You're constantly arguing that the sample is so strongly skewed against your position that the proportion of people who want AI is over 4 times (!) as much as in the sample. "Everyone" is an exaggeration, but the point remains. If you believe the sample is that skewed, then you have to provide evidence.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Thats not what I'm arguing. I'm saying most people dont care enough either way and based off research and polling ive seen that most people do use the features. So if most people use them and only a tiny fraction wants them gone you should keep them default and give those people a toggle.

    When I'm saying 175k out of 100m I'm pointing out that its a tiny % of the user base. The people who were engaged enough to vote in that poll were the anti AI people. It was posted to all the anti AI subreddits and twitter feeds. It was a big call to action to try and prove no one wants it.

    Its obviously where search is heading which is why ddg mentions in their blogs that they are working heavily on AI features. They have always been receptive to users so unlike google so they do give users the option to disable. If they had data that most were disabling we'd see that be the default.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Also, in my experience people who dislike AI features are often more tech-savvy in my experience. And tech-savvy people tend to know "hidden" subdomains such as "noai." and how to change the default engine's URL string whereas non-savvy tend to not know that.

    So even if the majority would be against these AI features it might make more sense to make AI the default and noai opt-in. Because you'd lose more non-savvy people having no-AI as default than you lose tech-savvy people with having AI as default (I assume).

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Maybe im to tech-brained but I dont think its a technical barrier. I think that they just dont care enough. One search of "how to remove AI from DDG" would bring it up but they never care about the issue enough to take that first step.

    I sometimes observe this with my family members, who will complain "oh I dont like how it does X" and I say you can turn that off in the settings and then they dont. It was a minor complain they had but not an actual complain they wanted to solve.

    Maybe DDG should do the firefox route of a popup to disable all AI for new users.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

    AI is the future of search

    Thought terminating cliches are the future of online discourse.

    The user experience of AI search is way to good

    Search engine companies went out of their way to make normal searches worse, and then introduced AI search to keep you on their sites.

    I thought everybody at this point understood enshittification at this point, but if not: of course a project at the first stage of enshittification acts better than a different product at the third stage of it.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Its not a thought terminating cliche if you didnt cut the next word out. You can argue if AI is the future of search, I think there is a strong case that its proven very good at general information retrieval.

    How did search engine companies go out of their way to make normal searches worse? I search I get relevant results and its been that way for the past 20 years. Nothing has changed that has made search worse than it was 5 years ago. The only change is that people have recently gotten a choice between a google search or a chatgpt question and they were increasingly choosing chatgpt. fast forward to current day and that divide has only increased.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Searching

    This used to be a bare bones version of what you could do on literally every search engine. I had a high school class about this. 50/50 whether you got a 'business' teacher who didn't know how to open PDF or the librarian who'd go on digressions about information theory and optimal solutions.

    In the late 2010s google followed immediately by other large search engines started removing these features and actively showing users worse results so they would do more searches and get shown more ads.

    Your shit won't fly here, slopper.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You can still search on search engines some searches dont even have any ads. So what feature was removed? They actively started showing worse results ok what did they do?

    Search engines still search same as they did in the 2010s. They have had ads for decades. It hasnt increased you search you see an ad or two or even none.

    Your replies are equivalent to AI slop. If you are going to write something please at least think about what you are writing.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Bad faith slopper lies. Why bother to copy-paste? What are you using to generate BTW.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Its not a thought terminating cliche if you didnt cut the next word out

    "Of"? I assume you mean the next two words, but not only doesn't it change anything, I think it makes my response match even better. So I added them to the quote.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Didn't google actively degrade their search engine to force more adverts in. and I should imagine a further degradation since AI summery to make us more dependent.

    I'm looking forward to when AI fully closes-in, people are deskilled and the key holders are able to pump coercive non explicit adverting into AI, we won't even realize we had been sold something we didn't already want /s

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    Its wrong though. Its wrong so fucking often. There's no way to fix that. I stopped using ddg because of this. Pandering to right wing idiots does not necessarily mean being smart, that's thatcherite Nazi coddling lies.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Ignoring the schizo half of your question, what would be an acceptable error rate for you?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    The acceptable inaccurate result rate is 0%. I think that’s unachievable by LLM tech.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    No search will ever give you the correct answer 100% of the time so I dont know why you'd draw such a dumb line in the sand.

    I mean unless you dont use search engines, don't use libraries, don't talk to humans.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    That's relative to the confidence with which its presented. Ten results on a page? I dunno. Only one of them needs to fit, and I can refine my search or check page two.. Or used to be able to, before they disabled those features.

    A statement at the top of the page? Pretty fucking low. Variable depending on topic, some as low as 0%.

    Get fucked sloppy. You're ruining the world and replacing critical infrastructure for the sake of dystopian bullshit that might collapse at any moment. You're going to have been cheer leading it along. I hope you end up homeless and hungry-a lot of other people will, but you'll fucking deserve it.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    How is a summary at the top of the page different from the first result? If you are fine with the first result being incorrect I dont see why you wouldnt also accept the summary to be sometimes wrong. There are still 10 results for you to pick from and infinite pages to scroll through.

    If it depends on the confidence do you need them to put a disclaimer? If I'm looking for something important I'm going to actual documentation and skipping the summary even when its correct. But if I'm just searching for something low stakes and the summary answers my question I am happy to not dig any further and I consider it to be an improvement on the search experience.

    These days its pretty accurate. I rarely come across a summary thats incorrect. Mostly I see incorrect summaries on searches where i already know I'm going to get a lot of wrong answers and have to sift through sites and old posts.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    how is summary at the top of page different from first result

    Okay you can't be discussed with. Am I even talking to a human being? Are you asking grok for arguments? Arguing with sloppera is pointless. Everything it's saying is disingenuous missing the point or shows fabulous ignorance.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You can't discuss it because you have no coherent reasoning behind why you arrived at your position. You are a reactionary who knows very little and parrots what you hear.

    If you dont want to use AI fine but you're wasting your time trying to discuss it when you have nothing about it to discuss. This is a technology community not an anti AI schzio ranting community.

    Make the argument as to why its not suitable.

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  • [+] -3 points 3 months ago (8 children)
  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    This comment is unnecessarily dismissive and unhelpful.

    If people don't care, then they won't care if it's gone either. And that's the better option.

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  • [+] -10 points 3 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Recently, my mom killed one of her plants, because she searched for something to use as organic fertilizer and the ai summary suggested to add coffee grounds mixed with water daily. She realized it was a fake information and isn't trusting anything from internet searchers anymore. I wonder if at some point it will happen to most non-tech people, and search usage will go down heavily.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Coffee grounds can be helpful to add to fertilizer, but you need more than just coffee grounds: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11241280/

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Exactly my thoughts.

    DuckDuckGo (plus AI) enjoys default search engine status on a lot of browsers, and many of them make it difficult to set a custom one (like NoAI). Especially mobile browsers, and apparently even Safari makes it a pain.

    (Edited to clarify what I meant by default)

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    (Firefox) Settings > Search > Default Search engine > Add search engine or select one of the offered ones

    Idk about Chrome and the other Chrorium based ones but should be as simple, if not, then you should first think about using a better browser

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    https://kagi.com/

    I know its not DDG but default behavior is no AI overview (which you can still ger by explicitly asking for it if that's what you need).

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Yep. Usually an AI overview will just piss me off, but sometimes I do want it. In those cases, I add a question mark to the end of my query. It's easy.

    (example: "could you find me 3 different premium pull-down attic ladders and summarize what makes them nice?" because I don't want to wade through marketing until I have to. Also, y'all, feel free to brag about your attic ladder. Mine is aluminum, feels like it's going to attack me when I pull it down, and has inadequate hand/guard rail for something next to an open stairway. The scissor-style ones look nice.)

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    DuckDuckGo has taken a clear stance on generative AI and other LLM-based tools, having asked users whether they wanted AI results fully integrated into search. An overwhelming majority said no, which is why the company now keeps AI content and interactions confined to a separate page.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago* (9 children)

    Sunglasses dont do 'absolitely nothing'.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    People will constantly cry about the fact that I'm not putting on sunscreen while they're going out in the sun without sunglasses.

    People are dumb. I could technically remove a cancerous mole myself, I can't remove eye cancer myself. Or somehow unfuck my eyes once they're damaged.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    If you think you're able to just remove skin cancer yourself, sorry but holy shit you're delusional.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    technically

    If I cut the arm that has the cancerous mole on it off - the skin cancer is gone. Granted, I was thinking more carving it out - you know, the way doctors do.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    No. Do not do this. This is how you end up with terrible cancer that spreads. Doctors don't just start hacking away to carve out skin cancer. You are absolutely delusional or terribly misinformed like the person above said if you think you can just cut off the cancer at home.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    It quite literally is just hacking away you moron - my uncle has had hundreds of cancerous moles removed, they literally cut away more flesh than just the mole to ensure the cancer doesn't spread.

    Fucks sake

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    This is you:

    I could technically remove a cancerous mole myself.

    Since you're the smart one, and we're all morons, I'll defer to your expertise. You should totally just hack away at your suspected cancerous moles at home. Probably you should use a dull kitchen knife or whatever. Good luck!

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    And you're sitting here suggesting that I'm wrong about cutting your fucking arm off to get rid of cancer.

    Of course I'm not advocating that someone back alley ripper docs the fucking cancer out you trog

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Yeah we've already established that you're the super duper smartest person ever. But you can't back out now! Especially after you cut all those moles off your Uncle Lindsey's butthole or whatever. You gotta get in that kitchen, pull out that knife, and technically cut off all those cancer moles. We won't try to talk you out of it again I swear!

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