I wish there was an up to date linux phone/tablet alternative. We are kind of lucky that there is still a google alternative. The closer google gets, the worse our choices get. And with the dev speed of google and apple, it is really hard to keep up with them. Even many basics are still missing on linux or a free android.
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Still can't get over the closed-source OS part. How do you know its privacy-first if you can't verify it?
isn't sailfish open source since 2016?
SailfishOS's underlying system and applications are open source. Jolla has a proprietary UI and android compatibility layer they run on top of it. The UI can be replaced with open source community ones. Its similar to Android in its open source nature.
oh right, it's the compat thing.
Android compatibility layer is called App Support and is a licensed version of AlienDalvik. It's only available on officially supported phones (Jolla's own and some Sony Experia).
They also license it to car manufacturers, which is probably why that bit is not open-source. It's a big source of income for them.
Don't know how it is with this phone but they usually use an Android kernel which means you are beholden to the hardware supplier for device drivers. That generally means that you are stuck with a horribly outdated kernel.
Better to support the smaller company than continue with the bigger ones until perfection is reached.
Blatant ragebait
The most fascinating thing is how some in the open source community go wild against a tiny player delivering one of the most daily driveable phones with an OS other than from the big-tech duopoly (besides Huawei but that's another topic). It doesn't help that a system that is partially closed source (with the closed parts basically being only the home screen UI and the qt implementation) is misleadingly called "closed source OS".
Especially the frenzy within the GrapheneOS community in this regard is curious.
Why can't everyone just choose what they prefer without firing against other small alternative OS projects as if they were made by the devil?
I've been using Linux and Graphene for a long time and welcome all third party OS phones not controlled by Google and Apple. Jolla never marketed theirs in the USA and it always seemed more like a prototype phone for hobbyists more than a daily driver (same as all of the others).
This will probably continue to be the case until someone with deep pockets in the USA does a deal with a friendly phone OEM who makes a decent quality product and a mobile OS group who can make it at least as user friendly as Android. Considering the Byzantine labyrinth that Android's user interface is today, the last part should not be that difficult.
I did get the new Jolla Phone as a daily driver and for my use case I even manage to use it fully natively and it does what I need it for. It does have some smaller bugs and some rought edges but it doesn't feel like a prototype. I don't have experience with other alternative systems but if I look at the postmarket wiki and they don't list a single phone that is not meaningfully compromised in key functions, then I don't think that it is the same as Sailfish OS on the new Jolla Phone.
I'm more annoyed that they haven't responded to any of my attempts to contact them since March
So I tried sailfish os on a volla s23 or 22 I don't remember the name. and I was kind of underwhelmed by it. I didn't spend much time there, the community port didn't support the proprietary software I would of had to use waydroid which I felt like defeated the point. So I am not sure I gave it enough time or a proper chance.
To me sailfish os felt much more like a solid phone experience, but with Ubuntu touch felt much more framiliar, and felt more versatile because of that. Though the experience with Ubuntu touch felt much more like a computer with a horrible gnome interface that is not intuitive, and you never get used to it.
I hear people say a lot of good things about sailfish and I wish I knew what I was looking for, because I was underwhealmed and I really really want a solid Linux phone. Graphene os is cool but in the long run I feel its best to remove ourselves from android, and also a Linux phone is already the perfect cyberdeck so its just cool.
I don't trust Google hardware. No graphene
Me neither. Feels like a fucking psyop, accounts on social media constantly pushing a phone made by the least trustworthy, least privacy-minded company on the entire planet.
Plus ~700β¬, you can get a used foldable Pixel for that price or brand new Pixel with the option of flashing a more secure and trusted OS then Sailfish.
Why don't they at least try to strike deals with the EU telco companies. This is how many of phones started here.
You can do that but is it so strange to consider that some people out that don't want Android also don't want to stuff money into Google for hardware? Also, not everyone's priority is a hardened phone, some might just want a tinker phone with a terminal and linux environment, that also just works as a phone.
Then install Linneage, Graphene is for those who want security and privacy, if you just want to tinker there's plenty options.
Though, Graphene agrees with you, that's why they're working with Moto to get all their HW requirements in one of their phones, last I heard "2027."
I was talking about a non-tech duopoly OS that enables you to easily tinker but where tinkering is fully optional. Lineage phones just work as daily driver without the need for tinkering? Which phone hardware exactly would be an option for that with Lineage?
dont have a smart phone. get a land line. write letters. if your job requires you have a cellphone. no you dont, get a new job. or live illegally in a handmade cabin in the woods.
better yet, deny your brain oxygen until you are legally brain dead. that way the government cant read your thoughts.
i would say you can thank me later, but if you follow my advice, you likely wont be able to. so, you're welcome.
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