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[–] 135 points 3 months ago (10 children)

"Somehow" as if it's some great mystery and not because the 1% are siphoning off a bigger and bigger portion of the world's wealth. All to use for their own amusement while recklessly destroying the planet and sabotaging any attempts to do anything about it.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Don't forget using them to hide somewhere out of reach when the peasants finally revolt.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    thier buying yachts like they are art pieces, its likely also laundering scheme.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I’m pretty sure all tagged are $300 million dollars, so that they can be traded at any time for that amount. They are just floating $300m bills.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    they will probably gift one to trump eventually, remember that 400mil qatari plane that was too costly to maintain, and now cost 1.2bn to retrofit. probably give CLARENCE thomas a yacht, since he thinks epitome of being rich is a expensive RV.

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  • [–] 65 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    The suffering of millions is directly proportional to the wealth of the ultrawealthy. These things are not tangentially related. They are direct consequences of one another.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Yep. People can only be wealthy if the wealth is not distributed evenly.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    That is not true. That is the Zero Sum Game Theory they're playing where one party takes all. What we need is to think more along the lines of Positive Sum, where all parties can win. Otherwise we're just perpetuating a cycle of false scarcity and hoarding.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    The problem is that the sum is positive, limited (with changing limits), and unknown. Everyone can benefit, but you can't have everyone do better you still get everything you could possibly want. But you can get everything you could possibly want by keeping others from having enough, and since you can't know the limit you can't easily be held accountable

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Yeah true. But this changes nothing of my statement. Beeing rich is only possible in comparison to others. If someone is rich this means he has more money and power than others do. If all people have the same amount as you, then you are not rich.

    Thats why dictators/oligarchs/etc. also prevent others from becoming too powerfull. It is about beeing mighty and to be mighty is to have power over other people.

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  • [–] 61 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Anytime now the trickle down is gonna start, trust /s

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Just start working in the super yacht business.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I live in Seattle. We have North America’s largest superyacht facility here: Delta Marine. Their starting pay ($22/hr) is less than the local burger place, Dick’s Drive In ($23/hr), and I swear to god I am not making any of this up.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    This makes totally sense. Why should the workers in the field of work Which caters to people, who became rich by exploiting the working class, not also exploit the working class.

    So clearly the solution is to guillotine billionaires become an exploiter yourself.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    It's getting close to the point that the only thing that needs to be tricking down, is blood. We'll worry about the money after that. There should be plenty of leftover money with nobody to use it anymore. We can put it to good use.

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  • [–] 49 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It’s not “somehow” - the real economy is tanking precisely because the oligarchs have got so efficient at skimming the top off.

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  • [–] 46 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    How odd. Its almost as if the insanely wealthy are getting richer at the expense of everyone else. Not to worry, they earned and deserve it through knuckling down. It'll trickle down anyway. It's not their fault. If anything it's the brown people risking their lives on unseaworthy craft that are to blame for everything being so expensive.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    These things are terrible for the environment.

    ‘Megayachts’ are environmentally indefensible. The world must ban them: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/11/megayachts-environment-carbon-emissions-ban

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    We don’t need to ban them. They just need to be made to sink through a series of unfortunate events that are nobody’s fault at all.

    And if the owners are aboard and are unable to escape the sinking, I’m sure that would be a tragedy, and absolutely nobody would be dancing in the streets over such an event.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Is there a yacht tracking site like the ones people have used to track private planes?

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  • There are a number of sites that do this with naval transponders (an example of one). Generally, I believe it’s expected that civilian vessels have their transponders engaged (especially in national waters), though I’m not sure there are any strict requirements (or even realistic enforcement mechanisms) once one reaches international waters.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Missed the word “sales” the first time and thought “hell yeah”, then re-read it and was just disappointed.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Paywalled article. Though I suppose that's an apt meta-Boring Dystopia detail.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Tax their fucking wealth. We should be voting en masse for wealth taxes. They are just social parasites that extract wealth from the rest of the population while killing it. !twnw@fedia.io

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago

    "Somehow"

    I don't know guys. Do you think we could get to the bottom of this?

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    And also get involved in local activism. Do something in your community. Elections alone won't fix things. Vote for the least worst, but make that a small part of your political life.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I wish the yachts themselves were exploding.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago*

    Manufactured economic crisises are designed for the rich to get richer. its not a side effect, its by design

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Ukraine has gotten pretty good at flying drones. Anyway, what's this post about?

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    At first I saw that among his fleet of 6 ships, that he has a research vessel and a hospital vessel. I thought, "Ok, funding research and a fucking full on floating hospital that he can send to disasters and places in need. That would actually be pretty fucking cool."

    But, then I kept reading "a full-fledged hospital, serving as a safeguard for the cruising billionaire during the COVID-19 pandemic". 🤦

    It's a "support" vessel that follows his main yacht around in case he needs medical care.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    He's create a fleet that he, his family, and his friends can escape to when the revolution comes, and Sociopathic Oligarch families start losing their heads.

    He's not the only one. When this is over, we will task a military outfit to hunt down superyachts, arrest the occupants, confiscate the yachts, or destroy them if they resist. With satellites, they shouldn't be too hard to find.

    I know Lemmy loves him, but if he's got fleet of superyachts, he's part of the problem.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It should be pointed out he actually now owns Oceanco, the megayacht building company mentioned throughout that article

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Enslave the wealthy, make them work for us.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    This brings the same energy as "somehow Palpatine returned." Come on, we all know how.

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    Unfortunately these weren't the types of yachts they were going after. They were, AFAIK, going for yachts under 50ft. I've known of people who have a 40ft boat as their home, so these are not the same type of people as the billionaires on super yachts

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    People selling all of their stuff to go live permanently on the ocean?

    I know of at least one person with that plan

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago*

    Ehh, what else are they going to spend all that money on, improving society?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    If I'm ever out in my 14' Lund fishing boat and I see one of those superyachts I'm gonna ram it!

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    One of the most interesting changes of the last 15 years has been the global public realizing that most international issues and conflicts are a series of pump-and-dump or rug-pull schemes to the benefit of the kind of assholes who can afford superyachts.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Funny how when the center of the economic bell curve collapses the extremes seem to rise.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Don't worry. They're actually research vessels. So it's all good.

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    The latter can be directly linked to the former. It's called exploitation.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    Yes it's a complete mystery. As the super wealthy get significantly more wealthy by squeezing every dollar out of everyone else, somehow they're able to afford ridiculous extravagances, like enormous floating mansions that have the carbon footprint of a small town.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    People really need to work on taking the word "sales" out of that headline.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Hopefully they all come equipped with oceangate subs.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Obviously what needs to happen is for the superyachts themselves to start exploding. Preferably with their owners still aboard.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    LOOOOOOL, "somehow".

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Gabe Newell is doing just fine then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanco

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