TIL China has lower suicide rates than nearly all other developed countries. Honestly thought they'd be higher.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
TIL China has lower suicide rates than nearly all other developed countries. Honestly thought they'd be higher.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
China is just bribing people to continue living by providing material improvements to their quality of life. That's cheating 😤
You dummy, the reason people don’t commit suicide in aUThOriTAiaN StAtEs is because the government would murder them for it.
When you commit suicide there they just call in juche necromancer, resurrect you, give you a poetry book and armed guard yell at you "START WRITING" all the time.
Reminds me of Death & Taxes (I don't know the game aside from this song)
It would be great to have the complete unit of measure displayed here. It's suicides per 100k capita. Does not change the relative proportions, but is needed for the full picture.
One of those posts where people who know nothing but have opinions they must speak come together to enlighten the poor tankies. Can we at least drop the white saviour mentality this time guys?
Inb4 "no but they're commies so they must be lying"
It doesn't matter which country I live in, I will still want to not exist on earth.
Genuine question, is North Korea considered a monarchy (or monarcho-socialist), considering the Kim family has ruled it uncontested for generations? I know that a lot of stuff you read about North Korea in mainstream news is misinformation/propaganda so I'm curious
No, every political position held by members of the Kim family is open to anyone else. They don't have a competition based electoral system, and instead do consensus building before approval voting.
source: cryptic symbolism in my dreams
but seriously: are the bougies paying you a commission to go around spewing bullshit, or you just enjoy running your mouth about places you know less than nothing about?
No I've read extensively about how the DPRK works. I stand by what I said before I had the KGB man coming around to bash it with a heavy object.
And before you all start screeching lib I actually think China is leading the world currently and while a bit on the authoritarian side for my taste is clearly pioneering a superior system to the west in general.
Neither source seems to point towards fudged numbers, more towards an increase in suicides as a societal issue to be tackled. Nobody said there's no suicide in China.
I'd need to see evidence of this, all you've done is list suspicions.
All countries have a political interest in showing themselves as better, though. I'm aware enough of China's history to know that your allegations are just that, allegations.
So in other words, you don't have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That's not how proof works.
Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof.
What discrepancy is there in the data?
Source: trust me
Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries.
https://data.who.int/countries/156
We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source.
Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised
Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence.
Is this the data you're looking for? I don't have a voice in this argument, I just thought the idea that you can't look this stuff up is interesting, so I did a single Google search. Sorry if this isn't helpful.
https://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/doi/10.46234/ccdcw2023.109
Whenever I see one of these threads, I go inside. "Removed by Mod". 90% of the time, based on the replies and comments around it, it looks like the removed comment just said some dumb shit or was heavily disagreed with.
Why are we removing people we disagree with from the discussion? There are like eight people were had all their comments stripped from this thread. WTF is going on?
Removing racism and chauvinistic shit is a good thing. This isn't a debate class.
After a while you get tired of reading "Chinese bot, Russian orc, wumao CCP shill, everyone is North Korea is dead, communists killed everyone on earth, Hamas is terrorists, Iran killed eighty trillion people in 3 days, you are a communist because you are mentally defective, vote blue no matter who."
mostly because these comments are almost always racist and xenophobic
Depends on which instance is doing the removing but around here it's usually just racism and orientalism getting removed on this kind of post.
You have been indoctrinated with the attitude that everyone's opinion is equal and fools must be suffered. This is a community, not a street corner.
Well yes, that is how a democracy works. If someone says something stupid, publicly, they get it kicked right back up their ass. I'd rather participate in kicking the stupid back up a person's ass than wade through pages of a one-way conversation. Maybe that's just me.
Does a community get to decide who is a part of it? Who is the 'demos' in your democracy?
Who are common people of the memes@lemmy.ml state? Everyone here who is engaging in the community, and that is how public online forums work. "A community" is a broad categorization and does not have a standard structure of organization or common practices. "Public Online Forum" does in fact have a standard set of practices and organization, with precedent set since the 90s. That precedent is that moderators and admins get to choose who gets to participate, thus my original comment.
Any other weirdo accusations or loaded questions you'd like to spitball?
Any other weirdo accusations or loaded questions you’d like to spitball?
I haven't even read the main paragraph here but I will tell you right off that the derangement on display here is that which you brought yourself.
Go ahead and await my reply for I logged on kinda on a whim and wasn't expecting an epic showdown of words (it is after work and I do not work tomorrow and I am drunk)
If you trust these numbers, you're a fool.
It's true, they're likely far higher in occupied province of Taiwan and occupied Korea.
Imagine being so naive that you believe the propaganda coming out of countries known for their well-documented disinformation policies.
Edit: Imagine being so naive to think that a statement about one thing is somehow also a statement about other things not specifically mentioned. Y'all must clearly also have trouble with statements like "Black Lives Matter" don't you?
Definitely, people in western countries rarely leave their bubble of the 5 or so anti-communist media companies that control everything they see.
Yes, it‘s truly insane that people trust the West so blindly, even though it’s well documented how the CIA and the West in general used misinformation and propaganda to destabilize communities and whole countries. Why should anyone think they ever stopped doing that? And what is it with their billionaires owned “free press”? Who would trust that?
You must be confused. I don't trust western propaganda one bit.
I think that's kind of the problem in general, the real issue is, the firewalls and controls. It's not about believing the western propoganda, but simply the lack of non-propoganda sources. IE how can you find out if finland's policies are better than america's.
Hop into a public chat room, chat with someone from finland, or book a vacation to Finland or maybe find someone from Finland who's visiting or moved to the united states.
Not something you can really do with North Korea.
That's exactly why I don't put stock in the insane mythologies put forward by capitalist oligarchies about their enemies.
Well-documented
Can I see some of this documentation?
Can I see some of this documentation?
Sure. Go look it up for yourself. It isn't hard to find. You don't need my consent or permission to do your own homework. Nobody's going to do it for you.
This is just the antivax "do your own research" but for defending the geopolitical opinions that were imprinted into you by Epsteinland🇺🇲🇮🇱 before you were old enough to ask questions, which is very on-brand for them.
You made a claim, you back it up. Show me something.
To be fair, that's something a person who realizes that the western system is a failure, but still uncritically guzzles propaganda about western adversaries would believe.
What specific actions by Kim Jong Un equate him to Trump? The reason I ask is because, through cultural hegemony, we are trained in an almost Pavlovian way to immediately associate anything related to the DPRK as bad. We are not "free thinkers," the way we think is shaped by the ruling class in society. We have to be cognizant of this and constantly question whether we believe what we do based on facts, or "common sense," which is in reality ruling class ideology.
Being able to name specific, concrete policies by Kim Jong Un you believe to be bad would help make this a more objective judgement. For example, how do you feel about the 20x10 policy? Is it harmful, beneficial, too ambitious, not ambitious enough? For Trump, it's very easy to point to the war on Iran, embargo on Cuba, expansion of ICE, etc. as actual problems, but when we think of Kim Jong Un, what policies actually come to mind as negative?
Ok there genius, explain to me what a just leader who isn't corrupt would be doing differently? https://www.wsj.com/world/asia/north-korea-economy-success-e80f7062
Who told you that NK "sucks", and why do you trust them?
100% of the time this is code for "you're not going to be satisfied with my answer."
What about reporting from the DPRK makes it inherently less trustworthy?
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