▲ 36 ▼ Crazy Idea (lemmy.ml) submitted 3 months ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 104 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] daggermoon@piefed.world -15 points 3 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children) To be fair, that's something a person who realizes that the western system is a failure, but still uncritically guzzles propaganda about western adversaries would believe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago* What specific actions by Kim Jong Un equate him to Trump? The reason I ask is because, through cultural hegemony, we are trained in an almost Pavlovian way to immediately associate anything related to the DPRK as bad. We are not "free thinkers," the way we think is shaped by the ruling class in society. We have to be cognizant of this and constantly question whether we believe what we do based on facts, or "common sense," which is in reality ruling class ideology. Being able to name specific, concrete policies by Kim Jong Un you believe to be bad would help make this a more objective judgement. For example, how do you feel about the 20x10 policy? Is it harmful, beneficial, too ambitious, not ambitious enough? For Trump, it's very easy to point to the war on Iran, embargo on Cuba, expansion of ICE, etc. as actual problems, but when we think of Kim Jong Un, what policies actually come to mind as negative? permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 3 months ago Ok there genius, explain to me what a just leader who isn't corrupt would be doing differently? https://www.wsj.com/world/asia/north-korea-economy-success-e80f7062 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago (3 children) Who told you that NK "sucks", and why do you trust them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -10 points 3 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago Then why say anything at all? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago 100% of the time this is code for "you're not going to be satisfied with my answer." permalink fedilink source parent [+] starlinguk@lemmy.world -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* Oh god even the mods, oh fuck they're gaining power we need to call the nazis in to kill them in the name of democracy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children) To be fair, that's something a person who realizes that the western system is a failure, but still uncritically guzzles propaganda about western adversaries would believe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago* What specific actions by Kim Jong Un equate him to Trump? The reason I ask is because, through cultural hegemony, we are trained in an almost Pavlovian way to immediately associate anything related to the DPRK as bad. We are not "free thinkers," the way we think is shaped by the ruling class in society. We have to be cognizant of this and constantly question whether we believe what we do based on facts, or "common sense," which is in reality ruling class ideology. Being able to name specific, concrete policies by Kim Jong Un you believe to be bad would help make this a more objective judgement. For example, how do you feel about the 20x10 policy? Is it harmful, beneficial, too ambitious, not ambitious enough? For Trump, it's very easy to point to the war on Iran, embargo on Cuba, expansion of ICE, etc. as actual problems, but when we think of Kim Jong Un, what policies actually come to mind as negative? permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 3 months ago Ok there genius, explain to me what a just leader who isn't corrupt would be doing differently? https://www.wsj.com/world/asia/north-korea-economy-success-e80f7062 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] daggermoon@piefed.world -8 points 3 months ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago* What specific actions by Kim Jong Un equate him to Trump? The reason I ask is because, through cultural hegemony, we are trained in an almost Pavlovian way to immediately associate anything related to the DPRK as bad. We are not "free thinkers," the way we think is shaped by the ruling class in society. We have to be cognizant of this and constantly question whether we believe what we do based on facts, or "common sense," which is in reality ruling class ideology. Being able to name specific, concrete policies by Kim Jong Un you believe to be bad would help make this a more objective judgement. For example, how do you feel about the 20x10 policy? Is it harmful, beneficial, too ambitious, not ambitious enough? For Trump, it's very easy to point to the war on Iran, embargo on Cuba, expansion of ICE, etc. as actual problems, but when we think of Kim Jong Un, what policies actually come to mind as negative? permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 3 months ago Ok there genius, explain to me what a just leader who isn't corrupt would be doing differently? https://www.wsj.com/world/asia/north-korea-economy-success-e80f7062 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago* What specific actions by Kim Jong Un equate him to Trump? The reason I ask is because, through cultural hegemony, we are trained in an almost Pavlovian way to immediately associate anything related to the DPRK as bad. We are not "free thinkers," the way we think is shaped by the ruling class in society. We have to be cognizant of this and constantly question whether we believe what we do based on facts, or "common sense," which is in reality ruling class ideology. Being able to name specific, concrete policies by Kim Jong Un you believe to be bad would help make this a more objective judgement. For example, how do you feel about the 20x10 policy? Is it harmful, beneficial, too ambitious, not ambitious enough? For Trump, it's very easy to point to the war on Iran, embargo on Cuba, expansion of ICE, etc. as actual problems, but when we think of Kim Jong Un, what policies actually come to mind as negative? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 3 months ago Ok there genius, explain to me what a just leader who isn't corrupt would be doing differently? https://www.wsj.com/world/asia/north-korea-economy-success-e80f7062 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago (3 children) Who told you that NK "sucks", and why do you trust them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] daggermoon@piefed.world -10 points 3 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago Then why say anything at all? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago 100% of the time this is code for "you're not going to be satisfied with my answer." permalink fedilink source parent [+] starlinguk@lemmy.world -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* Oh god even the mods, oh fuck they're gaining power we need to call the nazis in to kill them in the name of democracy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] daggermoon@piefed.world -10 points 3 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago Then why say anything at all? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago 100% of the time this is code for "you're not going to be satisfied with my answer." permalink fedilink source parent [+] starlinguk@lemmy.world -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* Oh god even the mods, oh fuck they're gaining power we need to call the nazis in to kill them in the name of democracy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago Then why say anything at all? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago 100% of the time this is code for "you're not going to be satisfied with my answer." permalink fedilink source parent
[+] starlinguk@lemmy.world -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* Oh god even the mods, oh fuck they're gaining power we need to call the nazis in to kill them in the name of democracy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* Oh god even the mods, oh fuck they're gaining power we need to call the nazis in to kill them in the name of democracy permalink fedilink source parent