▲ 36 ▼ Crazy Idea (lemmy.ml) submitted 3 months ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 104 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (12 children) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 months ago (12 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (11 children) Neither source seems to point towards fudged numbers, more towards an increase in suicides as a societal issue to be tackled. Nobody said there's no suicide in China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (11 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (9 children) I'd need to see evidence of this, all you've done is list suspicions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (8 children) All countries have a political interest in showing themselves as better, though. I'm aware enough of China's history to know that your allegations are just that, allegations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (7 children) So in other words, you don't have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (6 children) Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Yggnar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Is this the data you're looking for? I don't have a voice in this argument, I just thought the idea that you can't look this stuff up is interesting, so I did a single Google search. Sorry if this isn't helpful. https://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/doi/10.46234/ccdcw2023.109 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 months ago (12 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (11 children) Neither source seems to point towards fudged numbers, more towards an increase in suicides as a societal issue to be tackled. Nobody said there's no suicide in China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (11 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (9 children) I'd need to see evidence of this, all you've done is list suspicions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (8 children) All countries have a political interest in showing themselves as better, though. I'm aware enough of China's history to know that your allegations are just that, allegations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (7 children) So in other words, you don't have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (6 children) Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Yggnar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Is this the data you're looking for? I don't have a voice in this argument, I just thought the idea that you can't look this stuff up is interesting, so I did a single Google search. Sorry if this isn't helpful. https://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/doi/10.46234/ccdcw2023.109 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (11 children) Neither source seems to point towards fudged numbers, more towards an increase in suicides as a societal issue to be tackled. Nobody said there's no suicide in China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (11 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (9 children) I'd need to see evidence of this, all you've done is list suspicions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (8 children) All countries have a political interest in showing themselves as better, though. I'm aware enough of China's history to know that your allegations are just that, allegations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (7 children) So in other words, you don't have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (6 children) Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Yggnar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Is this the data you're looking for? I don't have a voice in this argument, I just thought the idea that you can't look this stuff up is interesting, so I did a single Google search. Sorry if this isn't helpful. https://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/doi/10.46234/ccdcw2023.109 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (11 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (9 children) I'd need to see evidence of this, all you've done is list suspicions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (8 children) All countries have a political interest in showing themselves as better, though. I'm aware enough of China's history to know that your allegations are just that, allegations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (7 children) So in other words, you don't have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (6 children) Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Yggnar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Is this the data you're looking for? I don't have a voice in this argument, I just thought the idea that you can't look this stuff up is interesting, so I did a single Google search. Sorry if this isn't helpful. https://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/doi/10.46234/ccdcw2023.109 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (9 children) I'd need to see evidence of this, all you've done is list suspicions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (8 children) All countries have a political interest in showing themselves as better, though. I'm aware enough of China's history to know that your allegations are just that, allegations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (7 children) So in other words, you don't have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (6 children) Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (8 children) All countries have a political interest in showing themselves as better, though. I'm aware enough of China's history to know that your allegations are just that, allegations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (7 children) So in other words, you don't have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (6 children) Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (8 children) All countries have a political interest in showing themselves as better, though. I'm aware enough of China's history to know that your allegations are just that, allegations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (7 children) So in other words, you don't have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (6 children) Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (7 children) So in other words, you don't have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (6 children) Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (7 children) So in other words, you don't have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (6 children) Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (6 children) Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (6 children) Yep, all you're doing is speculation and treating it as proof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (5 children) What discrepancy is there in the data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) Source: trust me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago Death registration data is unavailable or unusable for China due to quality issues. Estimates of mortality by cause should be interpreted with caution. These estimates may be used for priority setting, however, they are not likely to be informative for policy evaluation or comparisons among countries. https://data.who.int/countries/156 We can also review an excerpt from the population introduction from the Chinese Statistical Yearbook, which the study someone cited above cites as their primary data source. Data in this chapter are prepared by the Department of Population and Employment Statistics of the National Bureau of Statistics. In tables 2-1 to 2-6, figures for 1981 and before are from household registrations; data for the year 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010 and 2020 are the census year estimates; the rest of the data covered in those tables are estimates from the annual national sample survey on population changes and data for selected years have been revised permalink fedilink source parent
[+] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Because you keep just saying shit and getting mad when you're not taken at your word that your lack of evidence is actually evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago See you're still doing it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago You never gave evidence that China under reports, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yggnar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Is this the data you're looking for? I don't have a voice in this argument, I just thought the idea that you can't look this stuff up is interesting, so I did a single Google search. Sorry if this isn't helpful. https://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/doi/10.46234/ccdcw2023.109 permalink fedilink source parent