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[–] 52 points 3 months ago (27 children)

Wait until the pro-lifers discover the antibiotics they pop when they're sick kill organisms inside of them... Life is sacred when it's not their bodies.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Billions of them. Each tablet is a genocide. Ban antibiotics now!

    (But, actually don't.)

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Def restrict them, feeding them by the fuckton to cattle because you're too lazy to figure out a way to keep that many of them in sanitary conditions is how you get civilization-ending superbugs.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, the widespread misuse and abuse of antibiotics is a huge problem. Don't tell the antivax RFK fans about it though, you'll give them new ideas.

    Wouldn't it be nice if more folk were just reasonable about things? Life would be so much easier and more fun.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (21 children)

    a bacterium is not equivalent to a human being

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    A non-viable fetus is not equivalent to a baby.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Nonviable:

    1. Not capable of living or developing.
      ”a nonviable fetus.”
    2. Not workable or practicable.
      "a nonviable idea."
    3. Not viable: not capable of independent life; not practicable.

    Source: The American Heritage Dictionary, 5th Edition

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Thanks for the definition

    I think abortion is wholly different from getting a nonviable fetus removed as it cannot develop nor live

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    All fetuses are non-viable without being allowed parasitic access to the mother's bodily resources.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    This is really the whole thing, regardless of how developed the baby is.

    Imagine a fully formed child or adult with a liver problem. Science comes up with some way that someone of similar genetics can be physically connected to them and filter their blood for them and keep them alive while they wait for a transplant. Should the person who can physically sustain another person's body be legally required to do so?

    So far, less invasive versions of this say no: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McFall_v._Shimp

    You can't even force dead bodies to donate organs.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    all children are non viable without being allowed parasitic access to the parents resources

    even the ones that are born

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    That's stupid. We have foster systems, adoption, orphanages, children have even survived living in the wild or with wolves. There are many non parent ways for born children to survive.

    God what a stupid, el obviously false statement. If you spent half the time thinking about it as you did typing it you would have deleted it in shame.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago*

    even in an orphanage, they have parasitic access to someone ELSE's resources, right?

    a child cannot possibly live completely alone and independent from birth. You have a duty to care for him/her as you brought them into the world. Does that not also apply to children in the womb?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I am curious, how do you feel about IVF? Should infertile people get to do it? It destroys embryos in the process. And it’s “playing god.”

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    As to the "playing god" thing, I was actually quite amazed at how touchy the IVF doctors were about that issue. They had some interesting rules about what they would and wouldn't tell the parents about the offspring options. I'd have to go ask my friends about it again for all of them, but I remember one of the rules was the doctors wouldn't tell them the color of the eyes before choosing.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I believe that ethical doctors do this. I also believe there are some unethical doctors out there who don’t give a shit and allow their patients to select for all kinds of traits. Ultimately, there is no way to know unless someone talks about it.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    My first challenge to you would be to go look into the eyes of infertile people and tell them that “not everyone deserves a child, it’s not a right, it’s a gift.”

    It’s easy to argue on the internet behind your keyboard. Much much harder to say your shitty beliefs out loud in front of people.

    Here is my second question for you. A hypothetical.

    You are at a fertility clinic, and a fire breaks out. You run past a room almost engulfed by flames, and see a little 4-year-old child in there, screaming for help.

    As you go to rescue this child, you notice that the other side of the room has hundreds of embryos in Petri dishes. Babies, according to your beliefs.

    You only have time to save one of those things. A 4-year-old child or hundreds of babies.

    Who do you save? Be honest.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)
    1. I could and would say "Hey, I don't think IVF is moral. I don't think murder is justifiable."

    2. I do not have time to save hundreds of petri dishes at once. IVF is also immoral as it creates so many human persons and only chooses one to live. I call the fire department after saving the child and pocketing as many petri dishes as I can

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)
    1. You could and would, but have you? I can assure you you’ve met many people who were conceived via IVF. Have you told them their parents are murderers to their face? Again, it’s super easy to hold these beliefs behind a keyboard.
    2. The hypothetical only allows you to save one of these things. The 4-year-old child or hundreds of embryos. Which do you save?
    3. I will say that I actually have more respect for anti-choice people when they are also anti-IVF. At least you’re consistent, so there’s that.
    4. What are your views on capital punishment? I hope they are consistent there too.
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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago
    1. I really haven't. No one walks around telling people how they were conceived

    2. If I only have two choices, I would choose the embryos, and keep them frozen until someone is ready to adopt them.

    3. thanks

    4. Capital Punishment and the overall construct of "punishment over rehabilitation" are bad.

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  • [–] 98 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Killing tapeworms is covered under the stand your ground law

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  • [–] 43 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    only if killed with a firearm, the second amendment doesn't protect anti-tapeworm drugs...

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  • [–] 41 points 3 months ago

    Life begins at infection.

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  • [–] 77 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    This ad has been brought to you by the first worm parasite to ever be appointed US Secretary of Health and Human Services.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago

    Your body is a temple for the tapeworm. God sees you when you murder His precious tapeworms, and you’ll be made to answer for your sins when that big ole judgin’ shindig in heaven goes down. Can’t say I didn’t warn ya.

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  • [–] 48 points 3 months ago

    Ya know? Gotta say.....when I watched the pro-life vs pro-choice clash thats been taking place the past 10 years, I didn't see this coming. I'm usually pretty good about seeing things coming, but I had no clue that the end game of abortion bans was just a ploy to save tapeworms inside peoples bodies.

    Didn't see that one coming.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago*

    Tapeworms are full of human DNA as well (your blood)

    Which one contains human DNA?

    • picture of dolphin fetus
    • picture of tapeworm
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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago* (5 children)
  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Actor best known for playing laughably dumb characters, turns out to actually be laughably dumb.

    Playing to his strengths, I suppose?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    as soon as the news came out about him attending a far right church of his brothers, and him whining about not getting "lead roles" broke his mind.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    i could understand attending your brother's church to support your brother (and give them advice). if one of my siblings (not the dipshit one) was clergy of some sort or a church musician and i lived nearby, and their church was not preaching something absolutely repellent, yeah i'd goto support them. i know what it's like to be performing to an empty room. i have not had the heart to check my internet viewership at the last church.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    It's self-defense.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Wanking into a hankie and flushing it down the toilet is mass murder.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Sometimes I swear the Feds are aliens in disguise. I mean just look at RFK jr

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Killing tapeworms is murder, but they're parasites rather than humans so we don't care.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    To be 100% accurate, the human fetus is also a parasite.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Sorry, but inaccurate. It may be described as a commensal relation at minimum.

    The foetus propagates the parents genes and contributes towards the perpetuation of the species which from a biological perspective which is good. In a parasitic relation, the host only loses and the parasite only gains. In motherhood, the body is actually going out of its way to actually accommodate the baby and in return the baby does confer some positives from modulating the immune system to make the mother less susceptible to allergens to downright increasing infection fighting capabilities (see foetal microchimerism).

    I feel this need to add this: I know this is a meme, and that I'm very pro choice.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Don't give them ideas.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Oh gods I masturbated to a dolphin fetus? I'm going to dolphin hell!

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Killing mosquitoes is a murder too. And I'm all for mosquitocaust

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    ITT - people perfectly fine with being disingenuous.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    In some parts of the northeast it’s moida

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    vice versa?

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    [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I know this is just a shitpost but if you consider religious opponents to abortion believe that humans are made in the image of God and have infinite value compared to other things like tapeworms, you'll understand their position.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    that humans are made in the image of God

    My tired brain: wait, so is this the real original sin? Since you shouldn't create images of god...

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (16 children)

    Tapeworm is an animal not a human.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    I guess homo sapiens are aliens, not far off

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I didn't say humans aren't animals, I said tapeworms aren't humans. They are animals. They are not humans.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Killing tapeworms isn't murder because only killing a human can be murder.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Why? Murder is a classification of law. We could make killing a joke murder if we wanted.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    If you change the definition of air to mean

    An open, generally public way for the passage of vehicles, people, and animals.

    you'll be able to walk on air, but as it stands, you can not walk on air.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    the point is, the term murder exists for purposes of determining sentences and punishment for crime. if we as a society decided that homicide and regicide were of the same magnitude, we'd call them both murder. we don't. we call one murder and one assassination. not sure what your point of redefining air means.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    if we as a society decided that homicide and regicide were of the same magnitude, we'd call them both murder.

    we don't.

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