im new and sitll just wrapping my head around the lemmy concepts asis and this seems like incredible lore I missed so if someone would be so kind to fill me in it would be much appreciated
but I can always get behind javascript hate!
im new and sitll just wrapping my head around the lemmy concepts asis and this seems like incredible lore I missed so if someone would be so kind to fill me in it would be much appreciated
but I can always get behind javascript hate!
I don't really have a reason to hate something I've never used and never cared about at all until I saw I was weirdly targeted by it. I think it's a bizarre curiosity that attempted to make the fediverse "better" but made it worse. But I'm guessing not that many people as a percentage used it. And now it's been deleted so it's overall barely a blip.
Me: What the fuck is a tesseract? (please don't answer it, i don't wanna know)
Hey, who said I hate it? It's a great list of users worth following and knowing.
I hate tesseract because there's a quality open source OCR project by the same name that has been out for ages.
Wait which frontends don't need that monster?
Basic Lemmy works without JS. Some stuff breaks, but it's still usable.
Can't vote or comment without JS
They say: "Javascript is disabled. Actions will not work"
Web applications need JavaScript.
Web sites do not; the static web technologies allow effectively any styling, and browsing any content your browser can handle, and HTML forms work fine. In any case, many people who need to access the web site can't run modern JavaScript. So it should work without that.
There may be special dynamic enhancements that require JavaScript, but the site should do its core job flawlessly, without any JavaScript.
I disliked that Tesseract was a bit of a busy mess, visually. I genuinely wanted to like it because it definitely added several useful features. I even self-hosted it for a while. But the default Lemmy UI is so much more simple/streamlined and handles 95% of what I want to do anyway. I would only use Tesseract on occasion, when I needed to perform some action that I knew Tesseract handled better than the default Lemmy UI. But default PieFed supports every feature I liked out of Tesseract anyway, so I didn't miss it at all when I switched from a Lemmy instance to a PieFed instance.
Wait, people are actually out here daily driving the default Lemmy web UI instead of using their own client?
When I'm on the toilet, I use a client app on my phone, but when I'm at my desk, I use my desktop and the web ui. Why would I use an app there?
There're alternative frontends that your admin. can install (and some designed so you can use without them being installed on your particular instance: https://phtn.app/ (https://phtn.app/accounts/login, to login)); no need for any app. (outside your browser) to be installed for you to use a different web UI other than the default one.
Yeah, that's a pretty common setup. I'd estimate about half of users just stick with the default web UI.
The only web client that doesn't use JavaScript is mlmym. the modern slopware on the web where websites pump 5 MB of scripts straight to your browser is insanity, but JavaScript can also make websites much much nicer to use (routers that don't require full page reload).
Leave JS alone? 🥲 /s
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