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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Idk it depends. Can't evangelize the better way here because we know, those at X might not. FOSS is still a niche.

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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Those at X don't care.

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 months ago (5 children)

*most humans dont care. I'd say 90% have zero clue of the fediverse, and do not realize why big tech centralization is horrendous for humanity.

Tell me how many folks have converted to Lemmy or matrix or peertube from their corpo counterparts. Of my hundreds of fb friends, I have 2 that I had to basically twist their arm to use signal. 2. The rest go "oh haha idk what that is maybe I'll look at it but everyone is already on fb I can't leave".

Its a losing battle and I've basically stopped trying. People refuse to change and will give all their info and data away without a thought.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Pretty much. We're out in our own little bubble here. Which is both good and bad.

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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

Basically, yes. That's why the issue is with lawmakers, and going to shitty platforms with the excuse of "it's to reach the people there" is like when "left" parties shift to the far right to try to reach their voters base.

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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sorry but your comment is rather silly. You want to see this change on a legislative level? Okay sure, so do I, that would be great. But you also don't want to reach out to people so that they care to make the change? Either because they culturally care or to write their reps. You should realize that those are connected and its why my fellow lemms don't get to make real change as they not pragmatic about results.

I understand why you and others here feel that way. You are not wrong, but you are also implicitly surrendering your cause without firing a shot.

The people that understand are already here. The people that need to hear this are on Reddit/Twitter. Granted many don't care. Just as many also don't know to care one way or the other. By not reaching out to where they could be they will never know and become your ally. Therefore you have surrendered your cause as no one knew they could join it.

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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

People have been screaming about these things for decades.

What was before coming from lack of awareness, is now caused by an increasingly wide gap between "sides" and it's becoming an ideological war.

The ones that are not convinced by now, are convinced by the opposite side and aren't going to switch. We need to stop thinking that we need to increase our numbers or whatever, and just act. Let's not fool ourselves, a handful of moronic nazis able to change the world for the worst, it doesn't take that many people to actually change stuff. It just requires stubbornness.

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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

People have been screaming about these things for decades.

True. Guess what tho, not everyone heard you then and there are new people today that have not heard.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 64 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Why the fuck did they think coming back was a good idea? The internet is changing for the worse and xitter is one of the places that is making it worse, abandoning that shithole is a step into making things better

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[–] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 59 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It’s one thing to continue using the fascism pedophile app. It’s something else to leave and come back.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 27 points 3 months ago (1 child)

To come back by practically apologizing!

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[–] Carighan@piefed.world 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah if the only reason they came back were daily doodles of a firefox pissing on Trump or Musk that'd be fine, but they're not doing that!

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[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 26 points 3 months ago*

"the internet is changing" like all of a sudden neonazi techbros and their platform where they make genAI child porn are cool and okay again, according to Mozilla. absolutely bonkers shit take

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Man mozilla is so embarrassing these days.

[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 6 points 3 months ago

Did a reinstall recently and noticed you can no longer delete the FAANG search engines from the browser, now you can only toggle them off. Made all the worse by a fun little pop-up with the redesign saying "Same settings, new look".

So depressing watching them enshitify.

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[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 months ago

Why do they always seem so out of touch, it saddens me

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 months ago

What? They’re still run by the AI child porn generating nazis.

[–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 25 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I guess Mozilla didn't like seeing Mullvad get all the attention for supporting fascists, they had to do something!

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[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

What did Mullvad do?

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[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 child)

One of their co-founders gave a huge donation to a far-right party in Sweden--72% of the party's donations for 2025.

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[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago

Disappointing, but yet another reminder that corporations are not your friends

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[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the mullvad ceo donated millions to a far-right Swiss party that supports views like remigration. and when I say millions, it's not an exaggeration. he was their biggest donor.

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[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

remigration

To those that might not recognize the term, ethnic cleansing.

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[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago

donated millions

Millions of SEK, which is around 600 thousand dollars. Which is still a lot because last year they had 20 thousand (dollars)

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[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 22 points 3 months ago

booooo fuck the site formerly known as Twitter.

[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

They are positioning to inject CSAM generator Grok in the browser.

[–] skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

not even gonna read the other comments, because

WHAT THE FUCK FIREFOX/MOZILLA

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 18 points 3 months ago (1 child)

@wraptile@fosstodon.org Wayland is the future, stop flirting with X, it is dead dead dead!

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[+] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

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[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Why are you bringing Hindus into this?

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[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

Why is everyone acting like they've never seen a ninja-star?!?!

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

Great, they finish ripping MV2 out of chrome and here's firefox ready to be whatever the fuck they want with impunity

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 6 points 3 months ago

God fuck them and stay off elons nazi bar website

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Didn't they install some facebook suckholes to be in charge fairly recently?

I forget.

[–] menixator@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Please donate to mozilla so that they can buy a spine.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Why do people still use Xitter

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago

It's the biggest social media site in the world.

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[–] Kenny2999@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Oh well. Uninstall and move on. 'Twas a good run.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Google funds fascist political campaigns and I don't think Mozilla does. Seems worse to me than using shitter. And it doesn't matter if you are using another chromium fork, Google is still getting more power to control web standards if you use a browser based on theirs.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Google funds fascist political campaigns

And Google funds Firefox, to the tune of basically their entire budget. They don't take individual donations.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

I literally donate to Mozilla every month, so...

Is the point that you should go ahead and use chrome because Mozilla currently has a shitty funding model?

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You can donate to Mozilla , but those donations will not be used for Firefox development (no developer salaries, etc). Firefox is developed by a for-profit that only takes money through sponsorship deals like the Google search partnership. Your donations are used for everything else, including tens of millions of dollars of AI venture capital grants for example.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Okay, well assuming that is true, I'm not entirely sure what to do with that information. I ask again,

Is the point that you should go ahead and use chrome because Mozilla currently has a shitty funding model?

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 point 3 months ago

Heavens no. Use a fork, and probably don't donate to Mozilla unless you agree with how they're spending your donations (i.e. not Firefox).

I'd use Firefox over Chrome no question, but I'd use a decent fork of Chrome before Firefox.

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[–] recurse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago

Any recommendations for an open source alternative? This might be the final straw for me as well…

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[+] _fryerDan@sh.itjust.works -17 points 3 months ago

tbh, chromium is better anyway. i had to switch to that for work stuff and its been blowing ff out of the water

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[–] pglpm@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

"Funny" how in many sites like that one, one can only "like" or "heart", but there's no possibility of "dislike". It's full Orwell's 1984 and Newspeak on those sites – and spreading everywhere really.

[–] D1re_W0lf@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Deletes Firefox from laptop, phone and tablet and replaces with Vivaldi. Fire who? I barely new him.

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago

nothing has changed on twitter since they left, only worse, why