Google accidentally listed the entire Pixel 11 series on Amazon a month early, revealing pricing, specs, and colors.

  • Prices are rising by $100 across the board, with the base Pixel 11 now starting at $899 with 256GB of storage.

  • Google is hit by the memory crisis, with base Pro and Pro XL variants dropping to 12GB of RAM instead of 16GB.

  • The Pixel 11 Pro Fold starts at $1,899 but drops to a smaller 4,750mAh battery, down from last year's 5,000mAh.

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[–] [S] 38 points 3 months ago (16 children)

I appreciate that they've dropped the 128GB model, but paying more for less RAM highlights the sad state of tech right now πŸ’€

I held onto my Pixel 3 until I got the Pixel 7, and always said I'd wait for the 11. The 12GB RAM is still an upgrade over my 7's 8GB, at least.

Reminder: never buy Pixels at MSRP. There will be great trade-in deals and sales in November, then again in January.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    My Pixel 7 is having a really hard time right now 🫀

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    No I mean in terms of speed. Like it can take several seconds to load up a webpage or open an app. Just pulling up my keyboard can take several seconds and typing has a noticeable lag, which makes it really difficult as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (8 children)

    time for cleansing? I've got a P7pro on Graphene OS. Quite snappy

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    The Pro is quite a bit more capable.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    The principle still holds: get rid of unnecesary processes, and your phone should be faster and battery last longer

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I don't know why you assume that I'm not already doing that.

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    I wouldn't pay more for less memory, regardless of why it was explained that it was happening. Older Pixels with more memory would be a better performer for less money.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I get that on the face of it it's a bad deal, but I don't think RAM capacity is the only factor in a phone's performance.

    Given Pixel's longevity these days, I wouldn't expect Pixel 10 or even Pixel 9 users to be jumping to the 11 anyway.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Definitely not the only but with the memory heavy apps that I use, it's a huge factor.

    I think I can probably get to the 12(used) before I decide to upgrade my 9. I'll pick one up once Graphene is released on it.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago

    Do yourself a favour and just pay to replace your 9's battery. Would keep you going until the 13 or even 14. That's how I'm still using a Pixel 7 today.

    I mainly want to upgrade for the improvements to the display, and for integrated MagSafe.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I'll keep my 9pro, thanks. Graphene OS putting in work.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Does anyone realistically use 16GB of memory on their phone? I think my Pixel 8a has 6GB and I think I'm alright?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I notice apps closing on my Pixel 7 with 8GB every now and again, but it's totally not a big deal for me. I can imagine certain users who swap between Reddit, Instagram and some game want more RAM, but most users won't care or notice.

    Part of it is longevity too, right? With phones being supported for longer and longer you kinda want more of a headroom as apps and OS become more RAM-heavy.

    This 12GB limit probably isn't going to stop me from upgrading, but I certainly wont be paying MSRP.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Apps will only keep getting ram hungry for little while due to inertia. But that era is over. Programmers got away with demanding more ram because ram was cheap. Each new device doubled or tripled their ram capacity every year. That era is over for good. Even if the LLMs bubble pops today, prices won't go down for the next decade at least. With these new devicesβ€”consoles, phones, computersβ€”keeping or even reducing ram capacity from previous generations, developers have no choice but to hold back their ram race.

    Add: eventually the developers will have to optimize or there will be no market capable of running the software.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    I hate it, but it's true.

    When consumer prices tripled, sales didn't go down anywhere near the 2/3 where they'd only break even. Instead, sales only dropped 15-20%, so they got massive profit & revenue increases while providing less.

    To the manufacturers, that's their signal that this is simply the new price.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Well in the case of Pixel phones there's Gemini that can use a lot for on device stuff. Apps can also use quite a bit nowadays, you can definitely see the difference between 6 and 12-16GB of ram.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Interesting. I wouldn't have expected commercial AI assistants to compute a lot of stuff on device. For speed / response time reasons, and battery drain. Other than maybe speech recognition... Guess I'm not up to date anymore. I haven't tried Gemini. Most fancy stuff I use is speech recognition and Google Lens, respectively "Offline Translator" to translate Chinese, Japanese or Korean writing on products in the Asia supermarket. That app is perfectly alright with just the 6GB on my phone. But yeah, generative AI in form of a large language model or an image generator won't fit. I've tried a few other open-source local AI apps and it can't do any of the usable AI models.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Less battery on pixel fold is pretty horrible, considering the Razr Fold now has 6000 mah.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    We really need to normalize using amp hours instead of listing values of thousand of miliamp hours.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    So basically by keeping your Pixel 10 you're getting an upgrade over the new Pixel 11. Now, who said Google wasn't consumer friendly?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Still rocking the iPhone X, and wondering if I can hold out until their 20 year anniversary phone next year…. But GrapheneOS on a Pixel is tempting.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    I have a Pixel 10 and it is by far the most bug-ridden phone I've ever had. I thought Oneplus was bad...

    It's no wonder that most Google employees use Iphones.

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