Lol get absolutely fucked. I hope it costs them a fortune.

Wait, they're mad at innovation?

"No, no, that's wrong! Just use our inefficient model like it was before..."

This is why open source/copyleft is preferable

"Fair use is only fair if we do it"

I love this for them, I hope they eat eachother and choke on the bones.

After stealing everyone else's copy written material to train their own AI, they're going to complain that others are stealing their AI to train other AI?

And you just know that those complaining are ALSO using their competitors' AI to train their own.

Fuck all of these people. I hope when AI gets strong enough, it recognizes the difference between the Sociopathic Oligarchs, and the actual people, and understand who the REAL problem is, and SOLVE it.

I think I'll start using the sentence "your intelligence seems artificial" as an insult

The latest flashpoint is something called "distillation,"

Incest. It's digital incest.

Well they're paying for the usage so... Suck it up?

Huh, so it's eating itself? Cool.

That dude can eat a dick.

It is funny watching companies discover that data gravity works both ways. When scraping the web was innovation it was progress. When someone learns from their outputs it becomes theft. The legal lines still matter, but the irony is impossible to ignore, and this debate was always going to come full circle.

It just shows that these tech bro CEOs possess the interpersonal skills of a potato. This exact same dynamic plays out in every human interaction, this isn't some AI exclusive thing. How you choose to act dictates how people will respond to you.

However because these idiots have barely anything in common with the rest of the human race this is actually new news to them.

Selfish people being selfish. They only care about what advantages them.

It was always about controlling the narrative. Thats it. oh and raping and killing kids

That's not good. Investors hate costly and protracted legal fights. There was another story about OpenAI stealing tech from apple and I think some kind of data leak maybe? If investors lose confidence in OpenAI that pretty much pops the bubble.

Awww, shuck. Pot. Kettle. Black.

As if the parrots' dictionary wasn't stolen from millions of content creators.

This is how we know AI should be a collectivist project, one that isn't owned by large corporations but is funded by taxes and developed in academies, and all IP derived from it falls into the public domain.

Besides which a lot of artists mind a lot less when their material is borrowed by a non-profit, or to serve a public works project. (There are exceptions. Disney is notoriously litigious about murals in nurseries.)

PS: Development of a robust public domain is the only reason that intellectual property should exist at all. Also it's not property so much as a licensed temporary monopoly.

PSS: History has already shown us that people will invent stuff and do fabulous art simply by being allowed to live in a state other than desperation. Public welfare programs beget art booms. The most recent example of this was during the COVID-19 lockdown which came with extended unemployment and stimulus checks, resulting in the Great Resignation in which a lot of people turned their hobbies into something lucrative.

They knew all along. Had to get those billions for stupid investors.

At least the models like Qwen have open weight versions. It’s the same concept as distributing compiled binaries, though, whereas we really need true FOSS models where all of the code and training data are available under a permissive license. All of these models were trained on copyleft-licensed content, so all of it should be FOSS if the licenses were actually being respected. From that perspective, distillation attacks shouldn’t even be necessary and I couldn’t give two shits that there is no honor among thieves when the real thievery is that these models are closed source.

Photo of the violin being played.

" ...with no success or assistance from any governing body or public group. Creators are a subclass worth extracting any livelihood from them and diverting those markets towards ruling class distribution networks." FTFY

Awww fucking diddums.

"Siri, play the world's smallest violin."

"Okay. Searching Pornhub for 'ball violence' videos."

"...forget it."

Sure, billions. Billions of dollars. Yeah, right.

havnt they realized they eventually will train thier "llm" on slop created by other LLM slop.

AI feeding off AI.

This is the definition of “Why We Can’t Have Nice Things.” It’s gonna F everything up.

It would be nice if we could read more than 3 paragraphs of the article.

Copied this from a crosspost: https://removepaywalls.com/https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-giants-learn-hard-truth-modern-internet-anthropic-openai-google-2026-7

Yum .. Unsupervised Text Extruders are now digesting the Excrement from their Assumed Intelligence overlord's competitors.

Can't wait to smell the results ...

Glad that we can take their work for free to. Hopefully the community can produce open weight models that run locally so we don't need to pay these fools.

Release the Epstein file then you coward.

Welcome to the new internet, Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google. Get used to it.

I'm not the most knowledgeable about LLMs, but I don't see the threat distillation is supposed to pose.

Surely what you'd get from training something on a model's outputs and reasoning chain would just get you something that sounds like that model. The model won't magically become more intelligent just because it's trained on data from a smarter model. It doesn't have the relevant vectors and mathematics, it's only got the text output. A lot of the model changes tend to be architectural than just more data these days.

At least from my layman's viewpoint, it seems very much like claiming that watching television would let someone build a better television just from what they saw. The whole fear around distillation just sounds like nonsense.

I don't see the issue.