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[–] 3 points 4 months ago

Yet another reason I want to move to Spain

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    [–] 66 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Damn right it's a national security concern, let the US keep it's spyware to itself.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    You'd think that an entities senior leadership and investors being populated with openly corrupt, anti-democratic, mentally-ill, psychopathic, megalomaniacal, fascists and pedophiles would be a deal breaker, but most of the political class across Liberal "democracies" don't have a problem with it.

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  • [–] 46 points 4 months ago

    They should do it loudly, imho

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Responsible personnel?
    In a government?
    In this time, age and economy?

    Holy fuck. I must be dreaming.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Pedro Sanchez is a capable prime minister of the ruling Spanish Socialist Worker's Party. Unfortunately, his party and his family members are embroiled in scandals which tarnishes his legacy. But that's not to say that Pedro isn't corrupt himself, he just hadn't been directly implicated.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I have yet to meet a single person from Spain who doesn't despise him, even if they're left wing

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    As an outsider, I kinda like him but hearing of the controversies surrounding him, it says a lot that he could be looking the other way even though he may not be directly involved.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    That's the thing though, the only people who like him are people outside of Spain. He has a 33% approval rating, he's somehow even more unpopular in his country than Trump is in America. They really hate this guy over there.

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Why quietly, though? Scream it to the world that you are kicking out Palantir!

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I mean did any country think it was a one-way info faucet? Where do they think the Intel was coming from?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    It's an interesting point.

    I would assume, personally, given that the Biden admin and Trump I admin were staffed with actual serious people, that there were more guardrails and oversight and Alex Karp had to be better behaved in his business operations. The billionaires, however, are running the asylum now, and there are absolutely no guardrails.

    In 10-20 years, when Donald is gone and people feel safe to write books about what's actually happening right now, it's going to make for interesting and enlightening reading.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Can we have that in the UK too?

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (21 children)

    the Spanish government is very based. how do i move to Spain?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (6 children)

    Same as to any other EU country.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Are the different immigration rules for people from outside of EU depending on which EU country they want to enter?

    https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/work-abroad/work-permits/index_en.htm

    Looking at this the rules are EU wide, not specific to member countries.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    There are very different rules. Like worlds different.

    Comparing just Belgium and the Netherlands right next to each other. The Netherlands is quite doable if you find a job. Some automatic work visas and then residence based on that depending on origin country

    In Belgium literally no company in the country outside of IMEC and Deloitte will go through the extremely long visa sponsorship program (only digitalized in 2022 IIRC). It is pretty much only possible if you have family or a partner that already lives there. Even people studying there for 3-8 years have a few months to find a job or they are kicked out (in a bad job market compared to other countries also).

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (12 children)

    Shit ton of money and being prepared for huge taxes could help

    Edit: turns out the taxes are better than in other places

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    what huge taxes are you talking about? it's not that different from what you'd expect in the EU in general, lower than some and higher than others. Pretty typical for Western Europe.

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    To eastern Europe, for instance

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day

    Spain: 37%

    Poland: 44%

    Finland: 45%

    Latvia: 44%

    Hungary: 59%

    Czech Rep.: 45%

    Other source: https://www.brusselsreport.eu/2021/07/22/new-study-compares-tax-freedom-days-in-europe-and-around-the-world/

    Spain: 43%

    Poland: 44.5%

    Czech Rep.: 43.7%

    Hungary: 46%

    Another source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/oecd-tax-rates-by-country

    Spain: 39%

    Poland: 33%

    Lithuania; 38%

    Hungary: 41%

    Finland: 43%

    So... no?

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Hm, maybe I was wrong, will edit then

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (6 children)

    I would also dispute the "shitload of money" claim. Moving always costs money but I know bunch of people that moved from South America, Australia or Eastern Europe and none of them are rich. You really just need to be able to find a job. Any job. If you have a skill that's needed here you will be fine.

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    20k a year is not a shitload of money. Of course no one is just going to give a job, apartment and Spanish wife just for coming in here but the system is not just of the wealthy. Normal people use it all the time.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I'm jealous. Spain government doing everything right in the struggle against big tech dystopia, genocide, fascism. 🇪🇸

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Spain keeps on winning. Hell yeah! Let's fucking go!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    And in Sweden we're signing up for even more use of Palantir by the military and police... 🙃

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    • Old days: "We need more files and papers and other stationery for our loyal employees to keep track of all of our data and information."
    • Nowadays: "We need an international company of questionable ethics to keep track of all of our data and information."
    • We've come a long way, baby. /s
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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Estaban usando palantir? Qué hijos de perra

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    You mean like… not using that kind of evil technology?

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    You don’t need an alternative to Palantir if you decide not to use the kind of distopic shit palantir sells.

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    [–] 27 points 4 months ago

    There was a revelation on the news that Finland has been using Palantir's technology for over a decade. Really shameful, we should follow Spain in this.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago

    palantir would be a terror org were it not hiding behind america.

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  • [+] -29 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    The problem with this is that the Spanish government (not the Spanish nation) is leaning towards the Chinese orbit, which is equally or even more authoritarian.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    That is funny, all IT systems Spanish government is using still completely US (and even Israeli) sphere, but just the fact of raising concern for the most suspicious systems of being straight data collectors to funnel to the US (like GDPR was ever properly monitored) they place Spain to the Chinese orbit.

    This Spanish government just want to balance between the two powers (Actually, after the 1st Global Digital Rights Forum, I don't even see the Spanish government wanted to be in the middle, just with a toe out of the US orbit.). Nevertheless, this is why "foreign entities" have since 2014 start financing the extreme-right in Spain (among several other actions) to destabilize that trend.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    how? HOW? has china commited hundred wars across the globe? does china finances shitsrael and its genocidal campaign? did china invented the modern surveillance state? does china currently have multiple or even a single war under its command? what the actual fuck does authority even mean to you? you're just being a racist imperialist colonialist bastard.

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  • [+] -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)
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    China is also committing genocide, apon the uyghurs

    No, it isn’t.

    Previously:

    The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

    The only countries pushing this narrative are the “always the same map” imperial core countries, which just so happen to be largely the same ones supporting Israel’s genocide.

    Almost no predominantly-Muslim country buys the Uyghur genocide narrative, because they know it’s bullshit, because they talked to the Uyghurs themselves.
    https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330 #HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.

    Previously:

    Genocide is more than just killing, it’s the deliberate destruction of a people including its culture and institutions.

    (a) Show me the Uyghur bodies

    (b) Show me the serious bodily or mental harm

    (c) Show me the conditions calculated to bring about physical destruction in whole or in part

    (d) Show me the measures intended to prevent births within the group

    In accordance with China's affirmative action policies towards ethnic minorities, all non-Han ethnic groups were subject to different laws and were usually allowed to have two children in urban areas, and three or four in rural areas.

    (e) Show me the forcible transfer of children from one group to another group

    violent incidents in East Turkestan

    I wonder where those Salafi terrorists came from? Oh right: the US, UK, and Israel organized, funded, and trained them, as they did Al Qaeda and the various flavors of ISIS/ISIL, including the “moderate rebels” that just took over Syria. The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent.


    China is also guilty of imperialism using shitty loans made impossibly hard to pay off with the stipulation that they sieze the inferstructure if they can’t pay it off using the belt and road initiative to build inferstructure across Africa, the middle East, and other less developed places in Asia.

    No, it isn’t. Previously:

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    you cant wash the blood of your hand you filthy gringo. look at what's happening in gaza, you can't hide a fucking genocide you burgerfuhrer idiot. you deny to see the facts because you're a nazi sympathizer.

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    [–] 15 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    UK next please. Starmer, if you could grow some balls that would be mint. Cheers mate.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    loudly ban it next time

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  • [+] -18 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    What are you hiding over there Spain?

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