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[–] 43 points 4 months ago (14 children)
  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Im probably going to have to die with my 3060ti

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    I'm babying my 3090 like its the last GPU on earth. Undervolted, TDP way down, clockspeed capped, fans RUNNING.

    It will never see 420W again.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    Make sure you can get replacement fans before you abuse them

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    I can! It’s an EVGA FTW3.

    Even if I couldn’t, it’s ducted to the side of an SFF case, so I could just disconnect them, wire the PWM lead from the GPU and use 120mm case fans.

    The card rarely goes above 300W now and ingests ambient air, so the fans hardly spin up anyway.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    9070xt will run circles around it for $630 or so.

    There's certainly CPU options out there for high fps gaming on ddr4 rigs, I just feel bad for the guys still on ddr3 who can't eat the extra ~400 needed for a proper rig nowadays.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Meanwhile you can walk into microcenter and pick up a 7500x3d with a 5060 for $999

    5060 aint fast either, but it's way faster than a 7600. $300 will let you upgrade easily to 32GB of ram, or you could sell the 5060 (they seem to be about 300-320 for completed fleabay listings) and take the saved $300 and buy a 9070xt or something which are $630 at MC. 4k gaming for $1300. PSU is 650W and should work fine.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    $300 will let you upgrade easily to 32GB of ram

    Where ya buying ya ram? I haven't seen any 32GB packs for less than $380

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  • [–] 83 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    And unlike Nintendo switch, you can play games you bought 15 years ago.. and use other stores or emulation

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  • [–] 37 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Steamroller is a great name.

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  • [–] 74 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    I'm on the reservation list for a Steam Machine and personally have no regrets, but I'm so happy these exist. I don't think it has to be a big competition, but between not appealing to a mass audience and have limited stock, the Steam Machine may have inadvertently ushered in a prebuilt Linux PC revolution, and that's a wonderful thing.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Can we finally say it? Is the year of the Linux desktop finally upon us??

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    nah, it's more like the year of the linux game console, if anything.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    Neither the Steam Machine nor this Steamroller are consoles tho

    Edit: grammar

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    something something quacks like a duck, swins like a duck, it's a duck. The steam machine does swim like a duck behave like what is commonly referres to as a game console. The steamroller is debatable tho.

    The steam machine:

    • Custom hardware
    • Custom software and os
    • Specifically designed to play games
    • Has a dedicated controller
    • Designed to work well with a living room TV (HDMI-CEC)

    The only difference between the steam machine and other consoles is that it's not locked down

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    inadvertently

    I suspect Valve knew what they were doing, and while they probably care more about having prebuilts with Steam preinstalled and convenient to use, they included desktop mode in SteamOS and made sure the steam deck was open to tinkering.

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  • [+] -1 points 4 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

    Not everyone wants to build their own PC, and that's okay. Other use cases exist besides just what the hardcore PC crowd wants. There was a penguin-shaped gap in the prebuilt market, and now the Linux gap is closing, thankfully.

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    I have to ask, are META PCs affiliated in any way with Zuckerberg?

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, unfortunate naming if you ask me. "Meta" is just tainted by the zuck now.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Not that it's a bad thing, but did anyone ever offer something like Bazzite before?

    OEMs were waiting for SteamOS because it shifts the OS support to Valve instead of DIY, but I wonder if anyone tried before SteamOS was ready.

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  • Bruz this is the real history that the steam machine release let loose.

    Respect valve for it.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Yknow, other than the 16GB RAM (reasonable given the situation), this aint that bad, for similar specs (Ryzen 5 7600, RX 6750 XT), I paid 1100€ at most two years ago

    Of course, the rest of the components also matter, as well as the VRAM difference, but could be worse anyhow

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I looked not long ago for a steamos iso… does that exist somewhere?

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  • [–] 91 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (17 children)

    It feels so needlessly aggressive. Valve openly stated that there are alternatives to the Steam Machine, and they aren't trying to own the market. Calling your prebuilt the "Steamroller" is kind of a dickhead move. That's like Del Taco coming out with a deep friend taco shell and calling it "Fuck your Chalupa, bitch."

    ITT: People who have no idea how marketing and advertising work.

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  • [–] 81 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    That's not really how I read it. Clearly they are leveraging vale products, (steam os) so include steam in the name. They probably want this name to evoke strength and power, so what's something with steam in the name that is powerful? A steamroller.

    I don't think it is meant to roll steam!

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    They specifically advertise it as an "upgradable alternative to the Steam Machine"; with that in mind, assuming the name isn't intended to evoke comparisons to Steam Machine is kind of ridiculous, no?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    I'm getting some white knighty wiffs from this outrage over someone daring to compete with valve.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Remember literally any PC can run steam and Linux. Steam machine is still just hardware.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    A little bit more than just hardware, it's also official support from Valve, who are also the creators and maintainers of both Steam and SteamOS. We'll see how much that counts for, I think Valve doesn't have a great reputation for their support.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    What's the problem with it, exactly? As long as it lives up to its promise and is a better machine, why shouldn't they market it as a better machine or make direct comparisons?

    It's not even saying the steam one is bad, just that it is better.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    I can't see the size listed anywhere, this is just a mini itx junk box.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    From what I can tell, the PC in the image is built in the Jonsbo D32 PRO MESH Black, which is listed as "D396×W207×H314mm". However, the META PCs page says it's built in the Jonsbo D32 Black, which doesn't quite exist (the Jonsbo D32 models are PRO Black, PRO MESH Black, and STD Black). Thankfully, they are all the same size and the only differences are the side panel (mesh vs glass) and whether or not it has a moveable spine for variable spacing (PRO vs STD).

    Though, the META PCs website should really be more specific in their specs list.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah but it has the Steam logo on it. That's worth $1000 by itself

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    From the comparison I saw valve is only making ~$71 per device which honestly isn't that much of a premium for a pre-built mini pc

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I'm kinda surprised they don't just sell it at cost. We knew they couldn't subsidize the price with game sales, as anyone could buy this and install a different OS without ever buying a single steam game, but I kinda figured they'd bank on most people not doing that, hence selling at cost.

    Maybe it's just ~$71 margin for component costs to inflate further without the need for them to change the price.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Seems fine for most gamers.. As others have said, Steam don't make much profit on it, and the hardware isn't bad.

    Not everyone is playing 4K titles with raytracing. And when you start considering how quickly the cost of games adds up, steam ends up cheaper fairly quickly (I can't imagine buying 300 games on PS5 lol)

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Kinda weird that it has such similar specs, I would've expected they'd want to do something more differentiated

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    The size lets them use the specs to their full potential which differentiates it in terms of performance

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    well that didn't take very long

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    i didnt know that Meta started selling Linux PCS /j

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