1300 and only 16gb of ram and a GPU on par with a RTX 3060 / RX 6650 . Brutal.
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And unlike Nintendo switch, you can play games you bought 15 years ago.. and use other stores or emulation
Don't worry, I'm waiting to pay $40 of an old game Nintendo will release on the NSO. That k you Nintendo for making me pay for emulated old game again.
Steamroller is a great name.
I'm on the reservation list for a Steam Machine and personally have no regrets, but I'm so happy these exist. I don't think it has to be a big competition, but between not appealing to a mass audience and have limited stock, the Steam Machine may have inadvertently ushered in a prebuilt Linux PC revolution, and that's a wonderful thing.
Can we finally say it? Is the year of the Linux desktop finally upon us??
nah, it's more like the year of the linux game console, if anything.
Neither the Steam Machine nor this Steamroller are consoles tho
Edit: grammar
something something quacks like a duck, swins like a duck, it's a duck. The steam machine does swim like a duck behave like what is commonly referres to as a game console. The steamroller is debatable tho.
The steam machine:
- Custom hardware
- Custom software and os
- Specifically designed to play games
- Has a dedicated controller
- Designed to work well with a living room TV (HDMI-CEC)
The only difference between the steam machine and other consoles is that it's not locked down
The Steam Machine ain't a typical PC either, at least that's not the intention on how it is to be used. It's kinda a PC-console hybrid.
inadvertently
I suspect Valve knew what they were doing, and while they probably care more about having prebuilts with Steam preinstalled and convenient to use, they included desktop mode in SteamOS and made sure the steam deck was open to tinkering.
Yup, I was thinking the same thing, the more people that can get on the Linux train, the better.
Not everyone wants to build their own PC, and that's okay. Other use cases exist besides just what the hardcore PC crowd wants. There was a penguin-shaped gap in the prebuilt market, and now the Linux gap is closing, thankfully.
Not everyone wants to figure out an os install
I have to ask, are META PCs affiliated in any way with Zuckerberg?
No. This company actually had a legal dispute with Meta when they rebranded from Facebook: https://www.the-sun.com/tech/3983498/facebook-meta-name-trademark-battle/
Yeah, unfortunate naming if you ask me. "Meta" is just tainted by the zuck now.
No, they are a completely separate company. They have a YouTube channel as well, and I find their YouTube Shorts videos quite entertaining and informative.
Not that it's a bad thing, but did anyone ever offer something like Bazzite before?
OEMs were waiting for SteamOS because it shifts the OS support to Valve instead of DIY, but I wonder if anyone tried before SteamOS was ready.
Bazzite itself has an OS image specifically for handled PCs, and even desktop Bazzite has an option to boot into game mode basically "Big Picture mode"
They've had this for a while
Iirc there's a pre built company that offers mint, but I haven't seen anyone offer a gaming distro.
Bruz this is the real history that the steam machine release let loose.
Respect valve for it.
Yknow, other than the 16GB RAM (reasonable given the situation), this aint that bad, for similar specs (Ryzen 5 7600, RX 6750 XT), I paid 1100€ at most two years ago
Of course, the rest of the components also matter, as well as the VRAM difference, but could be worse anyhow
I looked not long ago for a steamos iso… does that exist somewhere?
Here ya go official OS. https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download?ver=steamdeck
It feels so needlessly aggressive. Valve openly stated that there are alternatives to the Steam Machine, and they aren't trying to own the market. Calling your prebuilt the "Steamroller" is kind of a dickhead move. That's like Del Taco coming out with a deep friend taco shell and calling it "Fuck your Chalupa, bitch."
ITT: People who have no idea how marketing and advertising work.
That's not really how I read it. Clearly they are leveraging vale products, (steam os) so include steam in the name. They probably want this name to evoke strength and power, so what's something with steam in the name that is powerful? A steamroller.
I don't think it is meant to roll steam!
They specifically advertise it as an "upgradable alternative to the Steam Machine"; with that in mind, assuming the name isn't intended to evoke comparisons to Steam Machine is kind of ridiculous, no?
I'm getting some white knighty wiffs from this outrage over someone daring to compete with valve.
I’m not sure I’d be able to order a “fuck your chalupa, bitch” with a straight face, but I’ll try.
Eh, I see your point, but it feels pretty tongue-in-cheek to me. Steamroller is just a cool name that implies the thing is a workhorse.
Remember literally any PC can run steam and Linux. Steam machine is still just hardware.
The Steam Machine also still has the advantage of HDMI CEC. Since none of the GPU manufacturers seem to want to bother with even on cards with HDMI ports.
A little bit more than just hardware, it's also official support from Valve, who are also the creators and maintainers of both Steam and SteamOS. We'll see how much that counts for, I think Valve doesn't have a great reputation for their support.
What about making a spherical system and calling it the Steamcube?
I think it would get massive amounts of free advertising. Not sure if it would sell because I wouldn’t want it.
What's the problem with it, exactly? As long as it lives up to its promise and is a better machine, why shouldn't they market it as a better machine or make direct comparisons?
It's not even saying the steam one is bad, just that it is better.
That's like Del Taco coming out with a deep friend taco shell and calling it "Fuck your Chalupa, bitch."
I would go to Del Taco right this moment if this were real.
Or, theres only so many ways you can make a punny name on Steam OS.
But of course that doesnt allow for righteous indignity.
I can't see the size listed anywhere, this is just a mini itx junk box.
From what I can tell, the PC in the image is built in the Jonsbo D32 PRO MESH Black, which is listed as "D396×W207×H314mm". However, the META PCs page says it's built in the Jonsbo D32 Black, which doesn't quite exist (the Jonsbo D32 models are PRO Black, PRO MESH Black, and STD Black). Thankfully, they are all the same size and the only differences are the side panel (mesh vs glass) and whether or not it has a moveable spine for variable spacing (PRO vs STD).
Though, the META PCs website should really be more specific in their specs list.
On the bottom of the page it says preorder: 1300 dollars
Yeah but it has the Steam logo on it. That's worth $1000 by itself
From the comparison I saw valve is only making ~$71 per device which honestly isn't that much of a premium for a pre-built mini pc
I'm kinda surprised they don't just sell it at cost. We knew they couldn't subsidize the price with game sales, as anyone could buy this and install a different OS without ever buying a single steam game, but I kinda figured they'd bank on most people not doing that, hence selling at cost.
Maybe it's just ~$71 margin for component costs to inflate further without the need for them to change the price.
Seems fine for most gamers.. As others have said, Steam don't make much profit on it, and the hardware isn't bad.
Not everyone is playing 4K titles with raytracing. And when you start considering how quickly the cost of games adds up, steam ends up cheaper fairly quickly (I can't imagine buying 300 games on PS5 lol)
No, I didn't. Watch Digital Foundry's and ETA Prime's review with gameplay tests, then come back.
12:50 "We're seeing averages of 81 FPS and it's fully playable like this." Also look at the bottom left of the screen -- it says "ultra." I'm sorry, but I'm right about this and I have evidence. So quit it with the laugh emoji like I'm some idiot.
Kinda weird that it has such similar specs, I would've expected they'd want to do something more differentiated
The size lets them use the specs to their full potential which differentiates it in terms of performance



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