People can forget that when it comes to the South, this is a real old front.

We're tired, and all this ride or die republicanism is because we're still here. We need the help

They're not unsalvagable, but they won't be the vanguard either. They will come when the tide starts to turn, so efforts need to be put at tide turning. Expect local efforts. Local efforts are critical everywhere.

People who cheer when southern kids die in a natural disaster because it will hurt their parents, who might have voted Trump: why won’t these stupid fucks vote for my team?

My opinion is that we are all people and the southerners have been steeped in racist and capitalist propaganda for a very long time. Their media environment is turning them racist and afraid to the point where the effort needs to turn them around would be extreme. We don't need to abandon our Southern brothers and sisters, but one we get power we should begin reconstruction reeducation. And just accept that a lot of them are too far gone for saving.

(Painfully) agree with the first part, second part misses the mark imo. My neighborhood is better because it doesn't have as many racists in it.

I've written off the entire states as unsalvageable (unless broken up) as someone from the northern Provinces

At this point I'm just hoping for reduced federal influence over blue states and measures to help out refugees from the places whose own state governments are working against them.

I appreciate posts like this. It's nice to see people calling out this shit.

Every time I see so-called "progressives" talking about succeeding from the union or writing off southern states, I feel incredibly terrified and abandoned as a queer person born and raised in Texas.

So... What? I just get to die? I'm just an "unfortunate casualty" Collateral? I get it's tiresome. I get it's scary what's happening. But don't call yourself an ally if you're not willing to fight tooth and nail for us. Cause I guarantee, if states started succeeding, it would be game fuckin', over for a lot of minorities. There would be no way out of the shit holes we're trapped in, and nobody to speak up or fight for us when they start actually shipping us off to "Wellness Farms."

Idc I'm not American I just want you guys to collapse so each state is its own country and maybe have a European union style relationship with each other so that y'all stop being so internationally inflammatory. Stg the main reason for considering learning a language other than English is to enter a conversation that defaults to excluding Americans.

As someone living in the heart of South Louisiana.

The Southern States are lost and we need to focus on trying to get people out instead of trying to change the minds of a bunch of xenophobic hicks.

I'm 100% for breaking up the union and expelling the Republican states.

Those regressive polices many wright off the south for exist in the rest of the country, but in different forms better suited to the context of the area. They come across as particularly brutal and overt to other areas simply because they’re not tailored to be hidden from them.

We got brick oven pizza and craft brews down here too tho

I will stuff my face with pizza and wash these tears down with a cold one

My only problem with the point this image is making, is that it doesn't matter if we are supportive or dismissive.

They're still, as a whole, as a group, going to be terrible people.

Compassion fatigue is a real thing, and while I don't want anything bad to happen to anyone, you can only save somebody from themselves so many times before you realize they're going to do bad things and nothing can stop them.

To be fair, most of the world is unsalvagable at this point.

My neighborhood is better because it has Pride flags instead of rebel flags and BLM chapters instead of Klan chapters.

It’s not that I don’t recognize there are good people there worthy of assistance. It’s that I doubt our ability to help them. The fascist powers there are too entrenched to uproot. We need to focus on the places the battle is winnable first. Then if we succeed we can turn to the South.

Well ackhshually - a neighbourhood with wood fired pizza & craft beers is definitely better in my book than one without. It's just quality of life innit ?

My neighborhood is better because it has brick oven pizzerias and craft breweries.

I'm in Atlanta.

Like they don't have brick oven pizzas and craft breweries in the South.

Ima be real not that many people in the south fight any of the policies, most peoole here don't give a shit or make excuses for why the policies aren't actually that bad. Plus the truth is people do vote for this shit, look at kerville in tx they denied help from the federal government cause it was woke and all that now they are suffering the consequences. Of course not every person in the south is some far right nuthead but ima be real they are the majority hence why it is the way it is here.

As long as the people in charge of those states continue to implement regressive policies - including voter disenfranchisement - yes, I will write them off.

Once the people in charge of those states either do a complete 180 (ha, right), or are removed from any position of power (by any means) and replaced with progressives, then we can talk.

Decries marginalization by other marginalized groups.

Closes with ironically tone-deaf fuckstick yap that undermines initial point.

Typical. 🤦🏼‍♂️

Does no one even grasp the definition of "logical fallacy" anymore? Fuck.

I have to protect my own state from red states, and help you idiots out too? Nah fuck you we are no longer in this together

As someone who lives in a southern state, there's a bunch of us that hate the shit here. Please move here and help us outnumber the others.

They had their chance in the 1860s, they had their chance in the 1960s, at what point do you give up giving them more chances and write the whole thing off as a bad job.

Fuck the south

Lol somebody’s man. This reads like a low-effort version of Sweet Home Alabama, a song written because Neil Young’s Southern Man dared to politely ask the souther states to be better during a time of bonkers racism.

As others have said, it’s not the fucking pizza and you know it.