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How to burst the AI bubble: Strike at its roots (arstechnica.com)
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[–] 9 points 4 months ago

Weird headline for the article because nowhere in the interview does he mention anything about how to burst the bubble or anything akin to "strike at its roots." Either it was taken from an earlier draft and they edited out the mention of it or they just made up a clickbait headline.

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    [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Get em, Cory!

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    [–] 66 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    AI really appeals to a fantasy that I think all of us have to some extent but that powerful people really have, of a world without people in it—because hell really is other people.

    This. The AI industry is pushing super hard to make it work, to replace human workers. It's failing, as AI work is crappier than human work and costs way, way more than human work, but there's that Ayn Rand fantasy that the ownership class can just shut out the worker class and create an utopia.

    I'm reminded of the car factory in which the upper management fired the striking workers assuming they could do the work themselves, only to find that the unskilled labor actually took skill.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    No, hell is loneliness and that's what humanity gets if it goes down the Ai / dystopian route. We can see in China today how people are suffering from loneliness despite having tech to order food and items and having them delivered in hours.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Personally I can and will ramble towards my cats about the intricacies of late Bronze Age trade networks in Central Italy. They slap me for it. I see no reason for human interactions given that I have honest counters to my pre-existing madness.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I'm constantly struck by the imagery of the giant warrior from Nausicaa. There is a timeline or a reality where this worked, but they couldn't help themselves. They woke the beast up the second it was even halfway possible and now it's tearing itself apart in self-destructive blasts because the whole thing was under-cooked (and probably the completely wrong direction to begin with).

    If there's any consolation here it's that hopefully this has soured enough people on the idea that a second effort won't even get off the ground. I hope ...

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I bet Elon or some other rich creep read Atlas Shrugged and thought it was profound lol

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    In the early 2010s, there was a lot of Ayn Rand fans in the Republican party. I think in the 2012 Republican Primary, the favorite book question either yielded Atlas Shrugged or the Reagan biography.

    Eventually, as Steven Colbert would note in The Colbert Report, none of them were chosen, and the Republican party decided reluctantly to support Mitt Romney.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    It's on a bunch of reading lists. In my early twenties I had a libertarian phase (cringe, I know, but I've evolved into a democratic socialist), and I saw it recommended several times on lists like "books every sovereign citizen should read" or shit like that.

    I bought a copy but I got bored in the first twenty pages. Probably because I could already tell that the guy was a piece of shit but the book was trying to make him sound cunning, and that didn't jive with me. I've always hated big corporations, even before I realized socialism is actually good.

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    • [–] 44 points 4 months ago (25 children)

    Reverse centaur? Lol? I need to come back to this later

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  • [–] 71 points 4 months ago* (21 children)

    centaur = brain of a man, speed of a horse.
    reverse centaur = brain of a horse, speed of a man.

    substitute horse with ai.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago

    Good practical examples are the car driver vs the Amazon driver. When you drive a car, you go where you want, but at the superhuman speed of a car. The Amazon driver has a computer telling them where to go, how to drive there, and even cameras to watch if you drive according to Amazon's rules. The driver has become the extension of the computer, instead of the other way around. That's a reverse centaur.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago (18 children)

    Over a long enough distance, men can outrun a horse. Especially in heat.

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  • [–] 57 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    Who’s in heat, the horse or the man?

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I don't like where this is going, but I approve it.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Have you ever tried running with a boner? You wear out quickly.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    What is that black ball that falls on the right side?

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago

    A centaur is a human that can do more than an ordinary person... A person plus a horse is able to do more. Making our tools work for us allows us to do more.

    A reverse centaur is when our tools are using us instead. Rather than a driver using a computer to navigate more efficiently, Amazon drivers are more like computers that use humans as a component to drive more efficiently than the computer itself could. Not great for the human.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    He published a transcript of a speech where he goes over a summary of the book that’s worth a read https://pluralistic.net/2025/12/05/pop-that-bubble/#u-washington

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    If you've read this post or kept up with his blog occasionally the book treads familiar grounds. I sill think it's worth the read to have a condensed version.

    Doctorow guides you through understanding the AI bubble by proving you don't need to know the technical jargon or latest developments. All you need to have as a guiding framework is "what technology (actually) does and who it does it to."

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    • [–] 26 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    You can also buy and download books / audiobooks from his website https://craphound.com/ some of them are pay as you want.

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    • [–] 18 points 4 months ago

    My friend was blathering on about Cory Doctorow two decades ago and I knew the name, had maybe read a little bit. I was kind of annoyed how ofter he brought him up. Man did he come out ahead of me on that. This guy articulates the ills of society so well.

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    [–] 23 points 4 months ago

    He talked about the book in his interview on Democracy Now! this morning too.

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    [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    He really should have called it a "Minotaur" instead of a "reverse-centaur".

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    [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I like how Doctorow is taking guardianship for his language through no bullshit tolerance.

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    [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I couldn't get through Enshittification. It was like reading a reference book after the first half. That said, I look forward to this one.

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    [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    One thing he didn't mention is Superannuation plans. If your plan is investing in AI ask them for an alternative or change providers if you can A lot of this shitshow is backed by retirement investments.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Top tip: Getting computer-generated wrong answers in Chinese is just as useful as getting computer-generated wrong answers in English.

    You don't even have to read Chinese!

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    • [+] -44 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Mr Doctorov has a nice life where he needs to make no tough decisions. I envy a life without least-worse voting and other harm-reduction efforts, where one can write what he dreams and people will happily consume it.

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  • [–] 35 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Why is there always some person hating on Cory when he's talked about? Astroturfing? He's the person we desperately need right now and everyone needs to listen to him. And Ed.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    They're two of the most visible faces with valid, well thought out critiques of the AI bubble. It's only natural that true believers (or people with a vested interest in AI) come out of the woodwork to trash them, they're scared.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Really? Dude has cancer and a kid in college, and yet chooses to write this. I'm pretty sure he has tough decisions. He also is very much not an uncompromising idealist, pointing to very specific solutions and dismissing others.

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    [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Boooo, click bait.

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