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Complaining about CBC because I have no other way to do it. (lemmy.ca)

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Problem started with watching About That on the train crashes in Spain(1), the host kept pronouncing LZB as LCB, I have no idea why but I only figured this out because I needed subtitles to understand his accent.

Having an accent is fine but I figured somewhere in the production pipeline someone should have informed him of the letter and redubbed segments, since it didn't happen I decided to write in. Apparently it's using a Microsoft sign in. No part of Canada's public should be using Microsoft products but especially for something so trivial. This was discovered when [2] clicking a link to their help centre [3]. They also use Cloudflare on their site which is again a piece of American tech that they shouldn't be using. Speaking of which, I would have used the gem link instead of youtube but it requires an account so I will include it as [4] for the purposes of url gore.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akSp50z3vg4

[2] https://faq.cbc.ca/hc/en-ca/articles/360044045414-How-do-I-make-a-comment-ask-a-question-or-share-my-opinion-about-CBC-or-Radio-Canada-programming

[3]https://login.microsoftonline.com/551ebe7c-477d-4607-b9a6-101ee365e775/saml2?RelayState=https%3A%2F%2Fcbchelp.cbc.ca%2Fhc%2Fen-ca%2Farticles%2F115001219053-Contact-Us&brand_id=844387&SAMLRequest=fZFPS8NAEMXv%2FRTL3jfJpmlLlyYltAiBKtKqB2%2Fr7pQG90%2Fc2dTqp5dGhQrq%0AdeY93szvLZYna8gRArbelZQnGV1WowVKazpR9%2FHgtvDSA0ZyssahGBYl7YMT%0AXmKLwkkLKKISu%2Fp6I%2FIkE13w0Stv6IXlf4dEhBBb7yhp1iU9GwLLYQ5a7Tnb%0AT7IxK0DOmCw0MC3lVM%2FVpJjPx5Q0iD00DqN0saR5lk8Z54wXd1kuspng%2BSMl%0AD9%2Ff5UlGSf0dtvIOewthB%2BHYKrjfbkp6iLFDkabqSR3AdMk7OA34nChvU6kU%0AIKbn62g1EBJDeqh%2BUS%2FSS8EXzxtpoVnfetOqN1Ib419XAWSEksbQAyVXPlgZ%0A%2F2bFEz5MWs32g1SAla2ptQ6ASNPqM%2FVncdXoAw%3D%3D%0A

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[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 30 points 21 hours ago (10 children)

About That is one of the best journalistic segments available in any mainstream media. It's to the point, factual and mostly tries to ride a center line. I haven't always agreed with what they've presented, but it's inevitably well researched and avoids being too opinion-based, allowing the viewer to make their own opinions about what's presented.

Andrew Chang's English is about as clear and perfect as you can get. What accent do you think he has? I seriously had to go watch the segment you linked to see if someone else was hosting when you complained about his accent!

Z is often pronounced "zee" instead of "zed" in Canada, especially when it is part of an initialism. Personally, I find zee and zed interchangeable and hear both all the time. I don't think I've ever heard someone say "Gen Zed". ZZ Top is definitely not "Zed Zed Top". There's absolutely nothing wrong with the way he's saying it, and it definitely does not sound like he is saying "LCB". He clearly had the "zz" of the Z when he said "El Zee Bee".

Look up: making a mountain out of a molehill.

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[–] Ariselas@piefed.ca 4 points 20 hours ago

Agreed, it's not a big deal.

I'd like zed over zee, but it's not a big deal, and I've never found Andrew Chang to have much on an accent. I guess he sounds a little like an easterner to my Vancouverite ears, but whatever.

I guess he could have said "Lima Zulu Bravo" but that's way overkill for a short news clip.

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 hours ago

Z is often pronounced "zee" instead of "zed" in Canada

It is pronounced that way in the USA, and their unfortunately outsized influence on Canadian media has caused it to change the way some Canadians pronounce it.

But the officially taught way remains using the commonwealth pronunciation "zed".

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[+] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -10 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Z is often pronounced "zee" instead of "zed" in Canada, especially when it is part of an initialism.

Bullshit. And I've been in tech for decades, a sector rich in initialisms we imported from those damaged by Noah Webster's 'reforms' to our South.

Personally, I find zee and zed interchangeable and hear both all the time.

Cool?

I don't think I've ever heard someone say "Gen Zed".

False consensus.

ZZ Top is definitely not "Zed Zed Top".

Proper chosen name; like Macron. We respect names that individuals choose for themselves.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the way he's saying it,

False. Conclusion from weak predicate.

and it definitely does not sound like he is saying "LCB". He clearly had the "zz" of the Z when he said "El Zee Bee".

When one is listening for a Canadian or Brit accent, 'ell zee bee' can sound like 'ell cee bee'. Ear of the beholder.

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[–] Ariselas@piefed.ca 10 points 20 hours ago

Chill dude, it will be ok. Give Zeddy a hug, take a deep breath, it will be ok.

We all still spell colour with a "u"

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[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 5 points 20 hours ago

Z is often pronounced "zee" instead of "zed" in Canada, especially when it is part of an initialism. Bullshit. And I've been in tech for decades, a sector rich in initialisms we imported

False consensus (in the same broad terms you're using it anyway)

from those damaged by Noah Webster's 'reforms' to our South.

Personally, I find zee and zed interchangeable and hear both all the time. Cool?

Yup, just returning my opinion to OP

I don't think I've ever heard someone say "Gen Zed". False consensus.

Fair enough.

ZZ Top is definitely not "Zed Zed Top". Proper chosen name; like Macron. We respect names that individuals choose for themselves.

And LZB is an initialism used as the common name for the organization. I'm guessing they pronounce it with Spanish pronunciation of the letters in Spain. So should he be saying it like that?

Or, if you like: Pedantic.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the way he's saying it, False. Conclusion from weak predicate.

You haven't indicated your actual proof it's false, so....

and it definitely does not sound like he is saying "LCB". He clearly had the "zz" of the Z when he said "El Zee Bee". When one is listening for a Canadian or Brit accent, 'ell zee bee' can sound like 'ell cee bee'..

False consensus (or shifting the burden of proof, again)

Ear of the beholder

True. Also my point. Thanks for clarifying. Trying to complain to CBC that they haven't dubbed over the pronunciation of a single letter that the OP doesn't like is pretty arrogant.

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 hours ago

When one is listening for a Canadian or Brit accent,

Or any other commonwealth country.

It's the Americans who are the outlier.

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[–] No_Maines_Land@lemmy.ca 1 point 14 hours ago

Proper chosen name; like Macron. We respect names that individuals choose for themselves.

Great point.

Linienzugbeeinflussung. It's definitely zee then.

Glad we got to the bottom of this.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca [S] -2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Z is often pronounced “zee” instead of “zed” in Canada,

No it isn't

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[–] OliveBrittle@piefed.ca 5 points 11 hours ago (1 child)

If you want to make the claim that you've never heard a Canadian say "Zee" instead of "Zed", you either don't get outside enough, or are actively lying to yourself.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca [S] -1 points 9 hours ago

You have my permission to assault anyone who does that.

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