TropicalDingdong comments on Democratic candidate for the senate, Josh Turek, releases an anti-trans campaign ad referring to trans women as "males competing in females' sports."

Democratic candidate for the senate, Josh Turek, releases an anti-trans campaign ad referring to trans women as "males competing in females' sports." (video.twimg.com)

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This got removed from politics because "Video links are not allowed" apparently? Pretty weird considering that most politicians say stuff on video nowadays and not really writing articles anymore since the invention of the radio pretty much lol. Hope it's a better fit here, this is the kind of stuff people should be aware of.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/73859928

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/13118934

Josh Turek of Iowa, Democrat, comes out with one of the worst anti-trans ads yet.

Not only is it an anti-sports ad, it proposes a ban on federal funding for gender affirming care. That would hit all medicaid and medicare patients, and any ACA federally-subsidized plans as well.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (94 children)

Don't vote for Josh Turek.

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[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago (93 children)

Ok, vote for who, then?

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

The answer is "Don't live in Iowa"

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[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

Whoever is most likely to keep him out of office.

Traitors are more dangerous than enemies.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago (89 children)

The answer is to not select either candidate for that position. But I expect to hear screeching over that because "how dare you send a message to politicians, they'll kill more than just you now!"

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago

You do understand that voting for the person you want is a vote for the person you want and not a nonvote, right?

Additionally, where is the line? The Democrat wants to do the trans genocide just as much as the Republican candidate. Your vote is also a message to both mainstream parties. Voting for the Democrat will signal to the dnc that being anti-trans will break the losing streak. Voting for the Republican will do the same, because the dnc are always chasing the non-existent "centrist Republicans".

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[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

You just have the attention span of a goldfish. It's not a binary choice because this isn't just about one election. It's not my fault you have long term memory loss.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

Erm actually the best way to improve society is to put absolutely no pressure on democrats at all. You're basically voting for a transphobe to win if you don't vote for this transphobe

/s.

The way things are going, in 2040, we're gonna have a democrat on the ballot who wants to jail trans people, and a republican who wants to execute them, and these liberals will argue earnestly in favor of the former. The only way to avoid that eventuality is to signal to the democratic party that trans rights are non-negotiable, and we cannot do that as long as we're voting blue no matter who.

If you have a choice between a transphoboc zionist and a transphoboc zionist, vote third party. Make the effort to get out and vote, and make the effort to vote third party.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you!

This thread has been exhausting. I'm glad at least someone understands what I'm talking about.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 weeks ago (67 children)

Let's do a tally.

Democrat: anti-trans
Republican: anti-trans

By voting and not selecting either candidate for this race, it sends a crystal clear message to the Democratic party that anti-trans campaigns are a losing strategy; they already know that, but the dnc is dense as fuck and needs to see it again after 2020 and 2024. Voting for the Democrat in this race is rubber stamping anti-trans stances, they'll move right again

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

The Democrat is fascist too, what part of that don't you understand?

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Ok, so then explain the difference between the genocidal Democrat and the genocidal Republican. Specifically this race.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Good to know that you consider my human rights to be an acceptable compromise.

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[+] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I asked you not to call me that, because I'm trans+, not because I consider it an insult. Your second time is a blatant misgendering. You really don't care about trans people, do you?

Where is your line? At what point should we start saying "actually, your position on trans people is so unacceptable that I can't support you"? Because a ban on trans healthcare should be enough.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

I call my girlfriend dude. It’s not a gendered name

I don't care what you think. I consider it gendered, and therefore don't want to be called that.

chicka

Trans+, not trans. Try not assuming gender instead.

There is no line

Cool, so you'll sacrifice everything and everyone as long as it's the right kind of fascist.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

You advocate for absolutely nothing but fascism.

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[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Kapo.

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[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, fuck that bullshit. I'm trans. If you don't care enough about the lives of and my people to vote against transphobes, I don't really care what happens to the rest of the country at that point. If the entire society wants to go bigot, well then you all can go straight to hell. Let democracy fall. You clearly don't deserve it.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago (45 children)

So what I'm hearing is that you're ok with trans genocide. Human rights are non-negotiable.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

My choices would be between "the person that wants to kill me", and "the person that wants to kill me". I'm a target of their genocide.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

Where is the line? At what point are you unwilling to support a candidate over their anti-trans stance? Banning trans healthcare should be enough.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

That doesn't answer the question. At what point is a Democrat's anti-trans stance unacceptable to you?

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Both are unacceptable. Voting for either will indicate to the dnc to move right. The only way forward is to show Democrats that people will not vote for anti-trans stances.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

You aren't fucking listening. I didn't say don't vote at all. I said don't vote for this seat. This isn't a god damn purity test, this is a candidate openly saying that I shouldn't have rights.

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[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

You really expect Trans people to vote for someone who advocates their death? I mean really?

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[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Worse for you maybe. But why should trans people care? You are okay with them dead. What do they owe you?

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[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Literally are.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

Trans healthcare is lifesaving. It's really fucking telling that you either don't know that or choose to ignore it so you can come in on your high horse and tell the trans people that they're overreacting because a Democrat wants to ban trans healthcare.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

What I'm hearing is that you find the genocide of trans people an acceptable compromise between the 2 major parties. You would rather vote for a Democrat that wants to federally ban trans healthcare than push back against the Democrats even a little.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You don't have to live in Iowa for me to understand this, because you've already made it pretty clear what side you'd be on if it were a decision you need to make. And it's not on the side of trans people.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

I already told you what I would do, you just don't want to listen. I would go to the polling place and vote, while not voting on this seat. This would be a part of a coordinated campaign that also uplifts the voices of trans people during and after, to make it impossible for the dnc to ignore.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago* (15 children)

The Democrat wants the same thing as the Republican. There is no changing either of their minds. I am one of their targets. Don't fucking talk down to me like I don't know what I'm talking about.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Where did I say that they were exactly the same? Why are you being disingenuous?

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Yea, they both want to strip my human rights away. I didn't say that they were exactly the same. Different words mean different things.

My life will get demonstrably worse with either candidate, being trans+ myself. We are not your volleyball in the game of politics, we are people.

I'm organizing unions, to build labor power in support of a general strike that CWA, UAW, and other unions are building towards.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

When the "good guys" are talking about taking away human rights, there is no better or worse. Only depths of depravity.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

How fucking dare you accuse me of ignorance when I'm warning about trans genocide coming from a Democrat while you tell me to ignore my looming slaughter to vote for a person that wants me dead. Go fuck yourself.

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[–] skunk@lemmy.zip [S] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (6 children)

What bliss you cretin? There is a trans genocide looming and you're ready to throw trans people under the bus to save your sorry ass 🦨💨

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[–] skunk@lemmy.zip [S] 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

You people are so ignorant and short-sighted while lecturing everyone else and calling them ignorant, it's honestly baffling.

What do you think other dem campaigns will look like if the transphobe manages to end an 18 year losing streak? Why do you think giving yards and miles to the fascists is acceptable in any form?? How do you hope to accomplish anything if you keep bowing your head and licking dem boot?

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[–] skunk@lemmy.zip [S] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We have racists and nazis now because they keep winning because there is no perfect dem and people vote 3rd party or don’t vote “to send a message”. It doesn’t fucking work.

People aren't looking for a perfect dem, people are looking for a non-genocidal one. They were willing to support the palestinian genocide while preaching trans rights, now they are supporting the trans genocide while preaching something else, why does anyone still believe them??

Stop the bleeding.

That's up to the dems!!

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Read carefully. I didn't say "don't vote at all". I said "don't vote for this seat". They will have statistics for the ballots which didn't vote for the Senate race but voted for other government positions.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

Perhaps by amplifying the voice of trans people in the build-up and aftermath of the coordinated campaign.

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[–] pieberry@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

If they can't figure out that being against human rights was the cause for their loss, then I want nothing to do with them until they figure it out and change course.

Anyone who is against human rights does not deserve my vote.

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[–] waltersf@bookwyr.me 13 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

MAGA appreciates your centrism.

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[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

What message are you trying to send, though? The only information they get from your non-vote is that the other guy wins, and he is full-on anti-trans. The message, from their vantage point, is "be more anti-trans because that is what wins."

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The guy in this ad is literally advocating for policy that will result in the deaths of trans people. Trans people who suddenly lose access to their medications and are not able to go elsewhere to get them are not just going to be fine. This is real measurable direct harm right now. This is a part of trans genocide. Those actions are absolutely intended to harm transgender people in an effort to erase us.

Is there a line for you? Where is that line? Do you think that if he wins he will suddenly stop being anti trans? Do you not think that him winning will also signal to all other democratic candidates running that advocating for trans genocide is actually a great idea and will win them elections?

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[–] emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

Yes it does, eventually. Y'all have been having the same argument for decades, but if you had voted third party decades ago instead of just lying down and accepting the 'lesser evil' then things would be different and wouldn't have shifted so far right. You all have been playing right into the corpos hands forever by constantly punching left as everythibg shifts right. This cycle will carry on perpetually until enough people stop throwing away the limited power they have, which is the choice to not choose ANY shitty option.

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[–] skunk@lemmy.zip [S] 24 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

And if the anti-trans dem wins the message to all dems in the US will be "you can end a 18 year-long losing streak by throwing trans people under the bus"

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[–] pieberry@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago

They see the actual number of votes. If voter turnout is on average for the republican candidate but lower than average for the democratic candidate, and accounting for any voter suppression, the DNC would be able to see that their messaging didn't resonate.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

They get the message of statistics from the number of people who voted and left the spot blank. Those ballots will also have data on the people that they did vote for.

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