▲ 573 ▼ Most gun owners use lead ammunition, yet half don’t practice hygiene behaviors after shooting (hsph.harvard.edu) submitted 3 weeks ago by dacalla@lemmy.zip to c/science@lemmy.world 377 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 33 points 3 weeks ago (15 children) It's heavy and soft permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Don't forget cheap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socsa@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago Ok guys, can we leave OP's mom out of this for even one thread? This is serious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SarahValentine@pawb.social 11 points 3 weeks ago So is a ton of feathers. Lead is dense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sheridan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (11 children) And heavier is better because it does more damage? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It maintains more momentum. Throw a ping pong ball and a golf ball, see which goes farther. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Also, it's easier to throw a golf ball accurately than it is to throw a ping pong ball. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@piefed.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Also golf ball hurts hell of a lot more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] riskable@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago Also, golf balls have cute little dimples. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zabadoh@ani.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) Lead being a soft material is a part of it too. A lead bullet deforms on impact, getting wider, which causes more damage as it passes through flesh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] diabeetusman@fedinsfw.app 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It also deforms in the barrel, allowing the grooves to impart a spin, improving accuracy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) That's a property of the copper jacket, not the lead core. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago Well, both really. As long as the metal is sufficiently softer than the steel of the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 points 3 weeks ago Nope. The core is the strength of the bullet. If it were steel, you can bet your ass that thin copper jacket is not going to magically allow the bullet to squish through the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) also easy to DIY lead bullets for cost and prepper types. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago Kinetic energy = (mass * velocity²)/2. It's not as important as velocity, but yeah it's important. The real key is that it is soft. Meaning it will deform more readily when it impacts a target. When it deforms it spreads out, creates a larger wound channel, and more effectively dumps its energy into the object it hit target than just cleanly passing through. That said, these days there is a big push to move to all copper bullets for hunting. They're more expensive, they don't deform quite as well, but they do consistently pedal now, they don't shed mass, and they're basically inert to our bodies. I practice with cheaper lead core bullets, but I have the more expensive copper stuff to hunt with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Don't forget cheap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socsa@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago Ok guys, can we leave OP's mom out of this for even one thread? This is serious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socsa@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago Ok guys, can we leave OP's mom out of this for even one thread? This is serious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SarahValentine@pawb.social 11 points 3 weeks ago So is a ton of feathers. Lead is dense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sheridan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (11 children) And heavier is better because it does more damage? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It maintains more momentum. Throw a ping pong ball and a golf ball, see which goes farther. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Also, it's easier to throw a golf ball accurately than it is to throw a ping pong ball. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@piefed.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Also golf ball hurts hell of a lot more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] riskable@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago Also, golf balls have cute little dimples. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zabadoh@ani.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) Lead being a soft material is a part of it too. A lead bullet deforms on impact, getting wider, which causes more damage as it passes through flesh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] diabeetusman@fedinsfw.app 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It also deforms in the barrel, allowing the grooves to impart a spin, improving accuracy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) That's a property of the copper jacket, not the lead core. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago Well, both really. As long as the metal is sufficiently softer than the steel of the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 points 3 weeks ago Nope. The core is the strength of the bullet. If it were steel, you can bet your ass that thin copper jacket is not going to magically allow the bullet to squish through the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) also easy to DIY lead bullets for cost and prepper types. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago Kinetic energy = (mass * velocity²)/2. It's not as important as velocity, but yeah it's important. The real key is that it is soft. Meaning it will deform more readily when it impacts a target. When it deforms it spreads out, creates a larger wound channel, and more effectively dumps its energy into the object it hit target than just cleanly passing through. That said, these days there is a big push to move to all copper bullets for hunting. They're more expensive, they don't deform quite as well, but they do consistently pedal now, they don't shed mass, and they're basically inert to our bodies. I practice with cheaper lead core bullets, but I have the more expensive copper stuff to hunt with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It maintains more momentum. Throw a ping pong ball and a golf ball, see which goes farther. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Also, it's easier to throw a golf ball accurately than it is to throw a ping pong ball. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@piefed.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Also golf ball hurts hell of a lot more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] riskable@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago Also, golf balls have cute little dimples. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Also, it's easier to throw a golf ball accurately than it is to throw a ping pong ball. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@piefed.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Also golf ball hurts hell of a lot more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] riskable@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago Also, golf balls have cute little dimples. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear@piefed.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Also golf ball hurts hell of a lot more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] riskable@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago Also, golf balls have cute little dimples. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] riskable@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago Also, golf balls have cute little dimples. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zabadoh@ani.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) Lead being a soft material is a part of it too. A lead bullet deforms on impact, getting wider, which causes more damage as it passes through flesh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] diabeetusman@fedinsfw.app 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It also deforms in the barrel, allowing the grooves to impart a spin, improving accuracy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) That's a property of the copper jacket, not the lead core. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago Well, both really. As long as the metal is sufficiently softer than the steel of the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 points 3 weeks ago Nope. The core is the strength of the bullet. If it were steel, you can bet your ass that thin copper jacket is not going to magically allow the bullet to squish through the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) also easy to DIY lead bullets for cost and prepper types. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] diabeetusman@fedinsfw.app 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It also deforms in the barrel, allowing the grooves to impart a spin, improving accuracy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) That's a property of the copper jacket, not the lead core. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago Well, both really. As long as the metal is sufficiently softer than the steel of the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 points 3 weeks ago Nope. The core is the strength of the bullet. If it were steel, you can bet your ass that thin copper jacket is not going to magically allow the bullet to squish through the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frongt@lemmy.zip -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) That's a property of the copper jacket, not the lead core. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago Well, both really. As long as the metal is sufficiently softer than the steel of the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 points 3 weeks ago Nope. The core is the strength of the bullet. If it were steel, you can bet your ass that thin copper jacket is not going to magically allow the bullet to squish through the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago Well, both really. As long as the metal is sufficiently softer than the steel of the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 points 3 weeks ago Nope. The core is the strength of the bullet. If it were steel, you can bet your ass that thin copper jacket is not going to magically allow the bullet to squish through the barrel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) also easy to DIY lead bullets for cost and prepper types. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago Kinetic energy = (mass * velocity²)/2. It's not as important as velocity, but yeah it's important. The real key is that it is soft. Meaning it will deform more readily when it impacts a target. When it deforms it spreads out, creates a larger wound channel, and more effectively dumps its energy into the object it hit target than just cleanly passing through. That said, these days there is a big push to move to all copper bullets for hunting. They're more expensive, they don't deform quite as well, but they do consistently pedal now, they don't shed mass, and they're basically inert to our bodies. I practice with cheaper lead core bullets, but I have the more expensive copper stuff to hunt with. permalink fedilink source parent