Apparently pre-rinsing confuses the dishwasher or something. Not doing it leaves me with residue all over the other dishes though 🀷

Star wars Anakin and Padme meme, with a dishwasher poorly GIMPed onto Anakin's face. Dishwasher Anakin: Save water, no need to rinse your dishes first. Padme: And they will come out clean, right? Anakin dishwasher: ... Padme: And they will come out clean, right?
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[–] 40 points 4 weeks ago (31 children)

Do you run the water in your sink until it’s hot before turning on the dishwasher? Most kitchens are set up so they use the same water line, and starting with cold water if you don’t do it will make it clean worse.

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  • [–] 38 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

    That's a thing with diswashers in North America, but not in Europe. In Europe, dishwasher are almost always connected to the cold water line only. OP seems to be posting from New Zealand, I don't know how they handle it.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    It's handled like that in North America, because their mains electricity doesn't output enough juice to operate a water boiler at a reasonable speed:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity_by_country

    So I imagine, in pretty much the rest of the world, it works like you described for Europe...

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  • [–] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    We don't need high voltage actually. By pumping cold water through the block of an honest American diesel V8, it can be heated quickly. Every house includes one for this purpose. I love the sound of it starting in the morning to heat water for my shower.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago* (1 child)

    I mean you could get a 240V line to your dishwasher in North America since a split phase 240V is what comes into the house. I'd rather the 240V water heater just do it instead.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Different electrics, so their in-built heaters can (and are built to) operate from the cold water line.

    NA dishwashers do have a heating coil, but most are only hooked to the hot water line, so that the wimpy heater doesn't have to do quite as much work or at least doesn't have to work as quickly.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Interestingly, where I live I have never, ever seen a dishwasher installed with a hot water line. Even the cheapest dishwashers heat their own water, and around here we apparently always plumb them to the cold water for some reason, even though I'm sure plumbing to hot water would at least save time if not get better results.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    I'm the opposite. All I've known is direct connection to the household hot water tank. The dishwashers all have a "Heat Boost" option which activates an element inside to add more heat if you want, but generally hot water tanks are kept about 57Β°C, I've never in my life used the heat boost setting. That's for sterilization.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 4 weeks ago

    I just watched through the video someone else posted, and connecting to the hot water line seems to be a North America thing. Presumably due to the 110v power supply taking a really long time to heat.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago (16 children)

    Obligatory obstinance: if that was important to the process why does the machine not handle it?

    That said, I do run the water until it is hot. Typically to wash the dishes that require hand washing like my nonstick pans.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 weeks ago (15 children)

    It can, but the water heater in your building/house is a better heater than the dinky one built in to the machine

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago (14 children)

    I think they're asking why does the machine not purge the line to make sure there's hot water. Why do I have to run the hot water faucet until it's hot when the machine could just do that and then drain the cold water?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago (12 children)

    That would significantly increase the amount of water the machine utilizes, which would push it out of alignment with efficiency regulations. There are a ton of people who don't care about this and who wouldn't want to use the extra water

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  • [–] 2 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

    It wouldn't waste more water, just more would go through the machine. If the pre-heating is necessary for it to work properly, the regulations need to take that into account, since that water is being wasted whether the operator runs it from the tap or the machine does it automatically.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago (10 children)

    Most people don't run their hot tap prior to running their dishwasher. It's really only if you notice an issue with your dishes being fully cleaned that you would even need to do it

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    But if you build it into the appliance, then the appliance will waste that water for literally every load, regardless of whether the person cares about making the water hot first

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Right, but it'll work properly. Appliances should work properly.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    The variables are too numerous for you to say it's not working properly if it starts with cold water

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I didn't say it's not working properly with cold water, I said if it needs pre-heated water to work properly as the video contends, the efficiency regulations need to take that into consideration.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Your previous comment did not say "if;" it said "should."

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

    Incorrect.

    If the pre-heating is necessary for it to work properly

    The only time I said "should" in this exchange is when I said appliances should work properly. I'll assume you don't disagree.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Dude, my entire point is pre-heating is not always necessary for it to work properly

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