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[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (11 children) This does happen and it’s an effective way to decrease the temperature: Might be difficult to implement at scale though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago That's literally a photo of it happening at the only scale that matters. The solution is that once the moon is there, we just need to stop it from moving away. Problem solved forever. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) But more importantly, what color should the curtains be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) Should they match the drapes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) You mean the carpet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago I just realized the saying is “Do the carpets match the drapes” but in my head I was thinking “Do the curtains match the drapes”. Even though curtains and drapes are similar. Brain fart. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* A orbiting, remotely positional, moon-sized sun shade? That's crazy enough to work I think you've solved the heatwave here permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pandantic@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Couldn’t we do this in a more localized way for large cities? Like a big ol’ shade satellite for areas being dangerously affected by heat waves? I know it’s just a bandaid but we will need these kinds of extreme weather mitigation techniques to keep us alive so we can solve climate change or die trying. Ps I’m not a scientist, so this is a sci-fi idea only - as in idk the maths of what this would take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago The structure you describe is called a Soleta. If you are interested, space nerds have explored the possibilities in some detail. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wischi@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's not really hard to implement at all but would just trade pest for cholera. We could just burn a lot of coal again, the dustier and dirtier the better. But that's pretty bad for air quality but it would seriously cool the planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Wouldn't filling the air with dark and absorbing gasses warm the planet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wischi@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* Aerosols aren't gases in the classial sense and reflect sunlight. This works especially well high up in the atmosphere. https://science.nasa.gov/science-research/earth-science/climate-science/aerosols-small-particles-with-big-climate-effects/ There are studies that collect data around volcano eruptions and coal power plants getting online and offline. Long story short: Climate is complicated; I'm not a climate scientist and not to be trusted; it would work great at cooling the planet; we definitely shouldn't do it (yet?) because it masks the temperature problem and could lead to us not reducing CO2 because we "wouldn't have to", but it could be a tool if we might be on the edge of a catastrophic runaway effect that causes too much water to evaporate into the atmosphere. Update: Btw, you are right about dark particles low in the atmosphere, those typically warm the planet. It's mainly sulfur dioxide aerosols byproduct that cool the planet (also mentioned in the NASA article) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago That's literally a photo of it happening at the only scale that matters. The solution is that once the moon is there, we just need to stop it from moving away. Problem solved forever. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) But more importantly, what color should the curtains be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) Should they match the drapes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) You mean the carpet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago I just realized the saying is “Do the carpets match the drapes” but in my head I was thinking “Do the curtains match the drapes”. Even though curtains and drapes are similar. Brain fart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) Should they match the drapes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) You mean the carpet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago I just realized the saying is “Do the carpets match the drapes” but in my head I was thinking “Do the curtains match the drapes”. Even though curtains and drapes are similar. Brain fart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) You mean the carpet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago I just realized the saying is “Do the carpets match the drapes” but in my head I was thinking “Do the curtains match the drapes”. Even though curtains and drapes are similar. Brain fart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago I just realized the saying is “Do the carpets match the drapes” but in my head I was thinking “Do the curtains match the drapes”. Even though curtains and drapes are similar. Brain fart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* A orbiting, remotely positional, moon-sized sun shade? That's crazy enough to work I think you've solved the heatwave here permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Couldn’t we do this in a more localized way for large cities? Like a big ol’ shade satellite for areas being dangerously affected by heat waves? I know it’s just a bandaid but we will need these kinds of extreme weather mitigation techniques to keep us alive so we can solve climate change or die trying. Ps I’m not a scientist, so this is a sci-fi idea only - as in idk the maths of what this would take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago The structure you describe is called a Soleta. If you are interested, space nerds have explored the possibilities in some detail. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago The structure you describe is called a Soleta. If you are interested, space nerds have explored the possibilities in some detail. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wischi@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's not really hard to implement at all but would just trade pest for cholera. We could just burn a lot of coal again, the dustier and dirtier the better. But that's pretty bad for air quality but it would seriously cool the planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Wouldn't filling the air with dark and absorbing gasses warm the planet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wischi@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* Aerosols aren't gases in the classial sense and reflect sunlight. This works especially well high up in the atmosphere. https://science.nasa.gov/science-research/earth-science/climate-science/aerosols-small-particles-with-big-climate-effects/ There are studies that collect data around volcano eruptions and coal power plants getting online and offline. Long story short: Climate is complicated; I'm not a climate scientist and not to be trusted; it would work great at cooling the planet; we definitely shouldn't do it (yet?) because it masks the temperature problem and could lead to us not reducing CO2 because we "wouldn't have to", but it could be a tool if we might be on the edge of a catastrophic runaway effect that causes too much water to evaporate into the atmosphere. Update: Btw, you are right about dark particles low in the atmosphere, those typically warm the planet. It's mainly sulfur dioxide aerosols byproduct that cool the planet (also mentioned in the NASA article) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Wouldn't filling the air with dark and absorbing gasses warm the planet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wischi@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* Aerosols aren't gases in the classial sense and reflect sunlight. This works especially well high up in the atmosphere. https://science.nasa.gov/science-research/earth-science/climate-science/aerosols-small-particles-with-big-climate-effects/ There are studies that collect data around volcano eruptions and coal power plants getting online and offline. Long story short: Climate is complicated; I'm not a climate scientist and not to be trusted; it would work great at cooling the planet; we definitely shouldn't do it (yet?) because it masks the temperature problem and could lead to us not reducing CO2 because we "wouldn't have to", but it could be a tool if we might be on the edge of a catastrophic runaway effect that causes too much water to evaporate into the atmosphere. Update: Btw, you are right about dark particles low in the atmosphere, those typically warm the planet. It's mainly sulfur dioxide aerosols byproduct that cool the planet (also mentioned in the NASA article) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wischi@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* Aerosols aren't gases in the classial sense and reflect sunlight. This works especially well high up in the atmosphere. https://science.nasa.gov/science-research/earth-science/climate-science/aerosols-small-particles-with-big-climate-effects/ There are studies that collect data around volcano eruptions and coal power plants getting online and offline. Long story short: Climate is complicated; I'm not a climate scientist and not to be trusted; it would work great at cooling the planet; we definitely shouldn't do it (yet?) because it masks the temperature problem and could lead to us not reducing CO2 because we "wouldn't have to", but it could be a tool if we might be on the edge of a catastrophic runaway effect that causes too much water to evaporate into the atmosphere. Update: Btw, you are right about dark particles low in the atmosphere, those typically warm the planet. It's mainly sulfur dioxide aerosols byproduct that cool the planet (also mentioned in the NASA article) permalink fedilink source parent