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Microsoft punishes idiots who purchased a "perpetual" license of Office 2019 for Mac by disabling it next month, pirates unaffected (www.theverge.com)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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A license verification certificate expires and when it expires, Microsoft Office for Mac assumes it's unlicensed even if it has been fully paid for.

So, any idiot who paid for Office 2019 for Mac "perpetual" will lose access to it next month.

The same will happen with Office 2021 and Office 2024 in the future.

Pirates are unaffected, only who paid for the product gets punished

Good job 👍🏻

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[–] 86 points 4 months ago (21 children)

I wouldn't even want to pirate it. I like LibreOffice a lot better.

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I do some work for an org that is MS office centric. They provide me with an office license, and space in one drive. I essentially use office to check final output to share with them, but do the actual work in LO. The only thing that goes in onedrive is their stuff.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, excel is such overkill for the average user. Loding a csv in calc would probably be good enough for the majority.

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  • [+] 15 points 4 months ago (17 children)
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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I used excel daily in a corporate environment for the last 10 years of my working life lots of VBA etc. I was the person people came to for excel help. I'm now retired and treasurer for a small non-profit and I use LibreOffice. It's good, but not as good. My needs are pretty basic now, so I'm not pushing the capabilities, but my main gripe for now is formatting pivot tables.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    I understand for home use calc, especially, works just fine, but I have to deal with editing excel files at work daily... I can't even run VBA's. And if I save the file in calc it gets messed up.

    The issue is the same as always, that some guy used excel first, and now I have to use it too otherwise I need to redo the entire excel file. I can't be bothered.

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  • [+] 9 points 4 months ago* (3 children)
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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    What's most interesting and baffling to me is that most people think libreoffice "breaks" things. But so far, every time I looked into it, libreoffice "breaking something" usually flows like this:

    • Excel implements some functionality in non-standard ways.
    • Calc / libreoffice goes to apply the functionality using the correct, standard way.
    • Sheet is now "broken", aka not with the expected data.
    • I get yelled at for having dared to use Calc to copy paste some data in a file without even touching scrips or pivot tables or whatever the hell.

    Every. Single. Fucking time.

    I got to a point where I tell them to wank off if they ask me to do something and I don't have easy access to Windows.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah, LO equivalent is to use python inside calc but you can use python outside of Excel just as easily so there's no reason for people to switch from what they currently have.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    that's like saying you can ise visual basic outside of excel, so there's no point in using it in excel

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Thanks for spelling-out the stupid for me. My brain was hung-up on the correct way to un-fuck logic I would rather not understand, for a moment. "Too stupid for words" came to mind, and the phrase just sorta ... hung out, wasting time.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    If you're already completely set up in Excel, there's no reason to switch.

    If you're set up in LO using visual basic outside of it then that would also mean there's no reason to switch. Either way it doesn't translate to the other.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

    If you're already completely set up in Excel, there's no reason to switch.

    is there no reason? licensing issues (like certain not so old purchased versions just getting disabled globally)? windows lock-in?

    If you're set up in LO using visual basic outside of it then that would also mean there's no reason to switch.

    what do you think, how is visual basic used in a spreadsheet? how do you imagine it being used outside of the spreadsheet app?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You're missing the point. Excel works just well enough/LO doesn't have a big enough killer feature for companies to justify the cost of switching.

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